The problem

[Oligarch]

We view this as a simple football problem.

It’s an economics problem.

We have owners who put in the bare minimum. Have pulled their accounts and have read them. Bare bloody minimum.

As I said in another thread, if you think you can win a comp these days grifting along - unless you have the next 2010 panthers - and we don’t - you won’t win.

We are buggered.

So what’s the solution? We needs the penns to sell. How so I hear you ask? Like English soccer wear a scarf of complaint. Be against the owners.

If we don’t - nothing will change - I promise you.

 

[Rocky]

We view this as a simple football problem.

It’s an economics problem.

We have owners who put in the bare minimum. Have pulled their accounts and have read them. Bare bloody minimum.

As I said in another thread, if you think you can win a comp these days grifting along - unless you have the next 2010 panthers - and we don’t - you won’t win.

We are buggered.

So what’s the solution? We needs the penns to sell. How so I hear you ask? Like English soccer wear a scarf of complaint. Be against the owners.

If we don’t - nothing will change - I promise you.

Yep - it is the problem

But hey others well tell you its Seibold or Waddell or whoever.

But it all starts with the owner.

 

[Hertera]

We view this as a simple football problem.

It’s an economics problem.

We have owners who put in the bare minimum. Have pulled their accounts and have read them. Bare bloody minimum.

As I said in another thread, if you think you can win a comp these days grifting along - unless you have the next 2010 panthers - and we don’t - you won’t win.

We are buggered.

So what’s the solution? We needs the penns to sell. How so I hear you ask? Like English soccer wear a scarf of complaint. Be against the owners.

If we don’t - nothing will change - I promise you.

Problem is to many are happy with our performances. They look at crowd and member numbers and they believe we are going great. It is so sad to see and I agree until penn sells and we get owners who want to win we have a mediocre future.

 

[Oligarch]

Have been in a bunch of meetings on this topic.

Read all the stat decks, and the models.

If people honestly think we are winning anything anytime soon.

I might be wrong. I am not.

 

[Oligarch]

We call it the delusion zone.

Enough to keep the punters buying memberships - until you get mugged by the cold light of day.

We joke - it’s the Christal palace zone…

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Have been in a bunch of meetings on this topic.

Were any of those meetings longer or shorter than seven minutes? Because we all know that seven minutes is the optimal meeting time.

 

[Eagleheart]

We view this as a simple football problem.

It’s an economics problem.

We have owners who put in the bare minimum. Have pulled their accounts and have read them. Bare bloody minimum.

As I said in another thread, if you think you can win a comp these days grifting along - unless you have the next 2010 panthers - and we don’t - you won’t win.

We are buggered.

So what’s the solution? We needs the penns to sell. How so I hear you ask? Like English soccer wear a scarf of complaint. Be against the owners.

If we don’t - nothing will change - I promise you.

Read all the stat decks, and the models.

If people honestly think we are winning anything anytime soon.

I might be wrong. I am not.

You're absolutely right — this isn’t just about tactics or selections anymore. Yes, I believe we need a new coach. That’s become pretty clear. But I’ve always believed the deeper issue is ownership. And that’s where the real rot starts.

The Penns have shown time and again that they’re not emotionally or financially invested in building a sustainable, competitive club. They show up just enough to keep the lights on. No long-term vision. No real connection to the fanbase. No hunger to win. And that trickles down to everything: recruitment, retention, culture, leadership.

So how do we change it? That’s the big question. But the first step is exactly what we’re doing now: naming it. Talking about it. Not letting it slide. I don’t think we can just sit back and wait for someone to ride in and buy the club. Pressure has to come from the members, from ex-players, from the fanbase, from the media.

Things like:

• Visible protest at games, scarves, signs, chants.
• Coordinated messages online: a hashtag or unified statement fans can rally behind.
• Letters/emails to the NRL, media, or club sponsors.
• Engaging with journos who already cover this stuff: give them the fuel to keep pushing the story.
• Encouraging legends of the club to speak up. People listen when they talk.

None of this guarantees change overnight. But if we keep speaking out, stay united, and refuse to be pacified by PR spin, we shift the pressure where it belongs to the top. Because until ownership changes, or is forced to evolve, we’ll keep spinning our wheels.

Enough is enough. This club deserves better.

 

[DUFFMAN]

We aren't ever winning a premiership under Penn.
I don't see him selling unless someone offers stupid money.
He seems happy to boast about owning a footy team knowing the running costs are covered by the NRL.
Under the Penn model of running a football team we are more chance of winning wooden spoons than premierships.

How different would this club be if Uncle Nick was a Manly fan.

 

[Eagleheart]

Hashtags: Focused & Clear Call for Change

• #PennOut
• #ChangeManlyChange
• #SaveManly
• #TimeForNewOwners
• #ManlyDeservesBetter
• #FixManlyFromTheTop

Symbolic/Visual Protest

• #ScarfOfComplaint (a powerful hook from the original post)
• #WearTheScarf (to encourage visible protest at games)
• #MaroonAndWhiteNotBlind

Frustration + Loyalty Vibe

• #NotJustTheCoach
• #WeBleedManly
• #NotThisManly
• #SeaEaglesNotSeatWarmers

Movement-Oriented / Rallying

• #RebuildTheNest
• #OwnTheFuture
• #UniteForManly
• #BringBackOurClub

Example Post:
Until ownership changes, nothing else will. We’ve got the heart, the fans, and the legacy, but we’re being held back from the top. #PennsOut #ChangeManlyChange #ScarfOfComplaint

 

[Eagleheart]

We aren't ever winning a premiership under Penn.
I don't see him selling unless someone offers stupid money.
He seems happy to boast about owning a footy team knowing the running costs are covered by the NRL.
Under the Penn model of running a football team we are more chance of winning wooden spoons than premierships.

How different would this club be if Uncle Nick was a Manly fan.

Very differently that is for sure.

 

[skull61]

Don’t go to games don’t buy merchandise need to hit them in the pocket

 

[Oligarch]

Can you imagine how they laugh right?

Brookvale sells out - max revenue on our ****ty oval

Fiddle around with crap merchandise

Every dollar we pay Penn, it allows home something which he got for less than $10m, he it’s now worths $65m, on the back of us mug punters

 

[effnic]

The problem? #7

 

[Oligarch]

The problem? #7

Would say #1.

Unless I missed anything - do we have the best juniors or nursery? We don’t, must have missed the other rivers of gold to the club

If you want people want to focus on details - good luck

Otherwise all the magic solutions - guess what Ennis is a cheap as coach - the cheapest - see a ****in theme?

 

[Ohgeez]

The problem is straight forward, we have 3 $1 million dollar players that are crap. DCE let’s in 3 tries, Jake made 0 run metres all game & Turbo is busted.

 

[CoreyWaddellSuperFan]

We view this as a simple football problem.

It’s an economics problem.

We have owners who put in the bare minimum. Have pulled their accounts and have read them. Bare bloody minimum.

As I said in another thread, if you think you can win a comp these days grifting along - unless you have the next 2010 panthers - and we don’t - you won’t win.

We are buggered.

So what’s the solution? We needs the penns to sell. How so I hear you ask? Like English soccer wear a scarf of complaint. Be against the owners.

If we don’t - nothing will change - I promise you.

Not the week for this argument. Canberra don't have or spend any more money than us

 

[Oligarch]

Not the week for this argument. Canberra don't have or spend any more money than us

Trying to be respectful - our sponsorship numbers are way below theirs right! They have more money than us.

I kind of give up. I do this for a living. People either listen or they don’t.

 

[Bomb Voyage]

Had a good chat to Penn tonight in Canberra - I do not get the impression he’s too bothered with the results, tonight included.

 

[mickqld]

Had a good chat to Penn tonight in Canberra - I do not get the impression he’s too bothered with the results, tonight included.

#PennOut

 

[Eagleheart]

Had a good chat to Penn tonight in Canberra - I do not get the impression he’s too bothered with the results, tonight included.

Unfortunately, I am not surprised.

Of course he’s not bothered, he owns a rugby league team he can brag about to his New York circle. It’s a status symbol, a way to bleed money from the people of Manly, the NRL and us fans, not a passion project and definitely not one built for true success.

This is exactly why he needs to sell. He doesn’t care about winning. The money rolls in whether we win, lose, or get humiliated.

We need owners who actually want to win. Who show up, invest, lead, and fight for the future of this club not just wear the brand when it suits them.

Until that happens, we’ll keep going in circles.

#PennOut #ManlyDeservesBetter #ChangeManlyChange #FixManlyFromTheTop