The only change that can save Des

[hozza]

Naturally could not rule anything out but then who would be available to just slot in then and not cause too much disruption and to be able to impart something better . But can see your point if spoon territory is looming . B T W should have mentioned trajectory instead of projectory ; bit of a lapse there ] bit like Manly 's present defence or should that be overall form .

Very valid point on who would take over. My hope is that they are already speaking to candidates behind the scenes. Another bonus to bringing in a new coach this early is that they get a chance to reshape our roster more to there liking for NEXT season. Wait till the end of the season and most , if not all quality players will have been snapped up by other clubs..

 

[manly al]

Would not be so bad if D C E could consistently play up to or near his pay grade and as the Highest paid player in the league . Tom is certainly worth his money if he can just avoid his injury problems and perform to his best level . Jake , bit like D C E"s circumstances and was just a fortunate recipient of a bigger contract then proportionate to his ability [ to date overall at least ] , to ensure he and Tom stayed . As for volunteering for pay cuts , maybe doable for the odd N R L player when renegotiating but for already existing contracts , Buckleys unfortunately .

 

[manly al]

Very valid point on who would take over. My hope is that they are already speaking to candidates behind the scenes. Another bonus to bringing in a new coach this early is that they get a chance to reshape our roster more to there liking for NEXT season. Wait till the end of the season and most , if not all quality players will have been snapped up by other clubs..

fortunately still have Schuster , Koula and Houmole on the books for next season but would certainly prefer longer including Saddler and maybe a couple of other up and comers . As for coaches when sides are under performing , who knows what goes on behind the scenes

 

[Budgie]

Interestingly, Des was at the Blacktown game yesterday so he saw first hand how the likes of both Cust and Schuster went.

Good. He would have also seen Olakau'atu get injured in a game he shouldn't have been playing.

 

[winnyason]

I hope I not right but the unrest I say comes from not backing the kids coming through. The decision to sign Foran and not elevate schuster straight away my gut tells me the Fultons would be unhappy with this.

 

[madmax]

Would you rather he gets his development in first grade, even if off the bench? Or have him (and lets face it, his manager) unhappy playing for Blacktown and then get poached by a Chooks or Souffs where he goes on to be a superstar?

The kid played ok yesterday, however he may be disillusioned that he’s played so well in other games yet he’s continually missing out on the top grade. At his age it would be hard to put in the effort every week with the expectation of selection in 1st grade only to be dropped in favour of other average players. Every other club takes risks with the special talented youngsters they have & are reaping the rewards. Bradman Best, Tesi Niu, Tex Hoy, Blake Brailey, Tabuai-Fidow, 3/4 of the Panthers team, Lachlan Lam, Sam Walker, Joseph Suaalii, Shaun Blore, Diane Laurie.....should I go on? We have Schuster, Olakau’atu, Saddler, Koula, Ben T, Cust, Birt etc. I guarantee if we had Robinson as coach these guys would be heavily involved in 1st grade yet our coach perseveres with Parker, Garrick, Croker, Taufua, Gosiewski & other non performers. How many fvcking chances do these players get yet the youngsters get zero chance to impress! I’ll bet my Jatz crackers we’d win a hell of a lot more games, or at least be competitive, with a risk or three! I’m done.....

 

[Kez]

The kid played ok yesterday, however he may be disillusioned that he’s played so well in other games yet he’s continually missing out on the top grade. At his age it would be hard to put in the effort every week with the expectation of selection in 1st grade only to be dropped in favour of other average players. Every other club takes risks with the special talented youngsters they have & are reaping the rewards. Bradman Best, Tesi Niu, Tex Hoy, Blake Brailey, Tabuai-Fidow, 3/4 of the Panthers team, Lachlan Lam, Sam Walker, Joseph Suaalii, Shaun Blore, Diane Laurie.....should I go on? We have Schuster, Olakau’atu, Saddler, Koula, Ben T, Cust, Birt etc. I guarantee if we had Robinson as coach these guys would be heavily involved in 1st grade yet our coach perseveres with Parker, Garrick, Croker, Taufua, Gosiewski & other non performers. How many fvcking chances do these players get yet the youngsters get zero chance to impress! I’m done.....

Schuster seemed distracted yesterday prob trying to work des out lol

 

[madmax]

Schuster seemed distracted yesterday prob trying to work des out lol

Agree or has been offered a contract elsewhere shhhhhh

 

[Kez]

Agree or has been offered a contract elsewhere shhhhhh

Oh no lol

 

[Waz13]

Oh no lol

Robinson was also out there watching Schuster, I mean Walker and Sualli......

 

[Nordburg]

Schuster seemed distracted yesterday prob trying to work des out lol

Not sure if there’s any relevance to the issues that seem to have risen in the last 6 months behind the scenes,but I just read that Suli,Fainu,Schuster,Saab,Olakau’at and Funa are all managed by the same company.It may mean nothing at all but we all know how managers work

 

[Franko]

Not sure if there’s any relevance to the issues that seem to have risen in the last 6 months behind the scenes,but I just read that Suli,Fainu,Schuster,Saab,Olakau’at and Funa are all managed by the same company.It may mean nothing at all but we all know how managers work

I wonder how that lot will go when Fainu is found guilty and sacked

 

[Nordburg]

I wonder how that lot will go when Fainu is found guilty and sacked

Levi is or was,not sure of his current status,managed by them as well

 

[The better Robbo]

People have also thrown out the Walker Brothers are a left field choice, I have another left field choice, what about the Robbo Brothers? Will have silver tails represented and Manly heritage

Done! But I want 4 years minimum with no get out clause for the club

 

[Mataiforever]

99% of those juniors Fulton is bringing through are the type of kids that carve up in their age group but soon as they start playing fully grown experienced men,they are found wanting.I’m going go against the tide and say I’m not convinced about Schuster yet.He played 1 half of first grade last year, had 1 no look pass that eventually led to a try,was trigger happy with the boot then got injured.Watched him specifically yesterday and other than playing the full game,it was the same as his first grade debut.I hope he does convince me he’s a star but I can see why Hasler is still reluctant to make him a regular in first grade

and from what sample size can you say 99% of these kids fail?

Just a pessimistic comment with no data to back it up. Schuster the only player to play and carved up in that 1 game.

Or are you speaking about Manly juniors in general? Oh yeah... Tom, Jurbo, Fainu, DCE, Foz etc all turned out horribly...

Fact of the matter is that these kids have upside and form in lower grades, whereas the duds have no upside, and poor form in first grade. Why would you continue with a guaranteed loss when you can have the potential for a win by giving kids an opportunity? We all know for a fact that Garrick, Croker, Parker, Boyle, Gosiewski etc will not just 'turn it around' like Des is hoping.

 

[40 nil]

Schuster seemed distracted yesterday prob trying to work des out lol

Well, he played extremely well in the trial & yet didn't get a gig on Saturday. If Des is concerned about Schuster kicking too much, he should instruct him to take the line on more often. He has a dynamic running game.

 

[anthonyb1965]

Good. He would have also seen Olakau'atu get injured in a game he shouldn't have been playing.

Why should he have not been playing?

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

One big thing I'm hearing is that there are rumblings/rumors that Des could actually be gone after the Souffs game this coming weekend if we lose like we did on Saturday and his selections continue to hold back some of the young guns (i.e. Schuster and Cust) while perennial underperformers (e.g. Parker, Garrick, Croker) continue to be played despite repeated mediocre performances.

Hi Moley

This is even better than my “ elephant in the room “.

 

[eagleron]

99% of those juniors Fulton is bringing through are the type of kids that carve up in their age group but soon as they start playing fully grown experienced men,they are found wanting.I’m going go against the tide and say I’m not convinced about Schuster yet.He played 1 half of first grade last year, had 1 no look pass that eventually led to a try,was trigger happy with the boot then got injured.Watched him specifically yesterday and other than playing the full game,it was the same as his first grade debut.I hope he does convince me he’s a star but I can see why Hasler is still reluctant to make him a regular in first grade

I think the young ones need to be tested in the fire pit that is the NRL, sure they're going to make mistakes because it's a big jump from ressies to firsts but unless we show faith they're never going to reach their full potential, we couldn't do any worse than we're doing now, I honestly couldn't care less if at the end of the season we've got our first spoon, to me all that matters is that we spend the year nurturing the young threshold players and building a team that can seriously challenge for the title in future years, we're running up and down on the spot at the moment and getting nowhere, why can't we take the leap and inject new blood and some enthusiasm in playing in Maroon and White

 

[Scorpio]

If Jake, Tom and Dce truly love the club and lead by example they would do it. I’m not so sure they could put their financial interests aside to make it happen.

Sorry but the horse has already bolted. Professional sportspeople have a limited amount of time to make money (ignoring post-playing careers). Plus no one is going to hand back $300k per year to their employer of their own free will, when they are contractually entitled to the money.

I am not even sure that the NRL will allow that to be partially covered by TPAs once the contract has already been registered.

Why should he have not been playing?

As in, he should have been playing in the NRL side not for Blacktown