The No-Look News (Schuster Chronicles)

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SeaEagleRock8

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It’s in the grand final, put that way. We knew enough about him to gamble responsibly.
Not to take your hyperbole too literally but I do think you're buying into the Fox & co sensationalism, which is mostly so blatantly phony, and especially annoying when it is anti-Manly, ie as in this case. 'Manly made the worst ever contract, what a ****-show of a club!'

Others have mentioned worse contracts, there's a mile of them really, Reynolds/Packer/Adam Blair etc at Wests, Sherwin's 5 year deal at Dogs, it goes on and on.

Anyway I look at it this way - we've lost (supposedly) 200k per year for the next 3 years, on a gamble to sign long-term a potential generational talent. Which equates to signing him for 200k/year and him never making it out of reserve grade, but better than that because we've got a vacant spot in the top 30. Yes the gamble failed - but given the minimum deal is 120k, and given there may have been good reasons to offer him an extension (we're not privy to all the factors) I see it as a failed gamble but hardly a disastrous one. If we were stuck with 800k out of our cap for 3 years I'd agree with you, but that was always just the media spin (imo)
 
Paying a player a million dollars over four years (400k + 200k + 200k + 200k) without getting any first grade football out of them, sounds like the worst deal ever negotiated to me. I wouldn’t be blaming the journos. We knew Schu had issues and re-signed him anyway. Less than a year later, he is gone and we’ve blown a mil. Sounds dumb to me.
If we knew then what we know now .. I doubt that we would have signed him.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

Just sayin’
 

Nordburg

First Grader
Worst contract ever?

What click bait.

Worse than Ash Taylor at the titans? Choc at the Eels? Just off the top of my head
Well at least Taylor and Watmough contributed to their respective teams at some point,however minimal someone may think.Schuster won’t play a minute for his $200K+ a season for three years
 

Wombat64

Game day lubrication specialist
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To try and prove all the doubters wrong I wouldn't be surprised to see him get motivated for awhile but I doubt he can sustain it long term. I hope I'm wrong.
 

Will on the hill

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Well at least Taylor and Watmough contributed to their respective teams at some point,however minimal someone may think.Schuster won’t play a minute for his $200K+ a season for three years
Watmough signed a 4 year $750k p.a. deal back when the salary cap was $6.55M (it's now $11.65M). He played 17 games mostly as a passenger. Not sure if it was directly linked but it was also the year they breached the salary cap, were fined $1M, docked 12 points and striped of the Auckland 9s title and prize money. Safe to say it's got 4 years at $250k for nothing covered.
 
Stated from day one his body shape will not hold up to the pace of the game as a 5/8 and long term the effort to keep in good enough shape would be too mentally draining to keep under control leading to inconsistent performances and injuries.

Sure the death of a close friend is going to impact him mentally big time, but let's not forget the attitude was "inconsistent and patchy" before that also.

Had a decent enough year playing in the forwards under Des and should of targeted his body and fitness in this area to become one of the best all round forwards in the game. Seeing the forwards as a backwards step(less glamorous and more dirty work involved) compared to being a flashy 5/8 is his biggest problem, he needs a reality check that is all.

Go to Bellamy if he seriously wants to harden up, go to England if you want more game time to display your silky ball skills consistently and develop your game under less intense pressure,a change of environment to mature will do him the world of good.

Can return as a mature ball playing forward in his late 20's that knows his physical limitations better.

Yes it was a ridiculous decision to sign him long term, "obvious" from the start.
 
Not to take your hyperbole too literally but I do think you're buying into the Fox & co sensationalism, which is mostly so blatantly phony, and especially annoying when it is anti-Manly, ie as in this case. 'Manly made the worst ever contract, what a ****-show of a club!'

Others have mentioned worse contracts, there's a mile of them really, Reynolds/Packer/Adam Blair etc at Wests, Sherwin's 5 year deal at Dogs, it goes on and on.

Anyway I look at it this way - we've lost (supposedly) 200k per year for the next 3 years, on a gamble to sign long-term a potential generational talent. Which equates to signing him for 200k/year and him never making it out of reserve grade, but better than that because we've got a vacant spot in the top 30. Yes the gamble failed - but given the minimum deal is 120k, and given there may have been good reasons to offer him an extension (we're not privy to all the factors) I see it as a failed gamble but hardly a disastrous one. If we were stuck with 800k out of our cap for 3 years I'd agree with you, but that was always just the media spin (imo)
Yeah Braith is a little bit shirty cause his boy Lachy Ilias got shafted and that Tartek swindled a club in a way he, Anasta, was unable to.
 

nightster

The older I get the better I was
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I was one of the Josh Schuster believers having closely followed his development as a junior and knowing his uncle John, the great All Black .... its just so disappointing ...
 

SeaEagleSI1

Reserve Grader
Could the Gold Coast Titans be considering handing out-of-contract utility Josh Schuster an NRL lifeline?

The 22-year-old, who recently parted ways with Manly, was on Friday spotted by an eagle-eyed fellow passenger (see image provided to Fox Sports Australia above) boarding a flight from Sydney to the Gold Coast with his manager Mario Tartak.

There could be a raft of reasons for the trip, but the idea of travelling for a meeting with the Titans is not far-fetched, given Schuster of course came into first grade at the Sea Eagles under now-Gold Coast coach Des Hasler.

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Ron E. Gibbs

First Grader
I wouldn't think that going back to Des (and Foz) would really count as a fresh start for the Schu, but I guess he has to do what he (or more likely his manager) thinks is best.
 

Nordburg

First Grader
Could the Gold Coast Titans be considering handing out-of-contract utility Josh Schuster an NRL lifeline?

The 22-year-old, who recently parted ways with Manly, was on Friday spotted by an eagle-eyed fellow passenger (see image provided to Fox Sports Australia above) boarding a flight from Sydney to the Gold Coast with his manager Mario Tartak.

There could be a raft of reasons for the trip, but the idea of travelling for a meeting with the Titans is not far-fetched, given Schuster of course came into first grade at the Sea Eagles under now-Gold Coast coach Des Hasler.

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That would be a surprise given Des’ past relationship with Mario and Foran on the verge of resigning.Would be a major pay cut for Schuster given the $$ the Titans have tied up elsewhere.
 

frank stokes

I discriminate indiscriminately
That would be a surprise given Des’ past relationship with Mario and Foran on the verge of resigning.Would be a major pay cut for Schuster given the $$ the Titans have tied up elsewhere.
Not if Fifita has one foot out the door already…

The other thing is that Des has the opportunity to bring him in as the ball-playing back rower that he always saw him as… last time the Schu got his nose out of joint because he believed he had been anointed as the future five-eighth and wanted surety that he was on a pathway to the 6…
 

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