The No-Look News (Schuster Chronicles)

HK_Eagle

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Seems like an inappropriate topic to make a joke about
I apologise to yourself and anybody else whom took offence. The crack was made at the the idea of Schu turning up for something, and I wasn't really thinking from the perspective of the event itself... but certainly, I understand some took it that way. Again, my apologies to those upset by it.
 

jbb/james

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Rewatched manly v canberra from 23 . a firing schuster makes us one hell of a team with turbo. Hard to see him as a backrower after that TBH

Manlys style has a fair bit of gamble and hope in its application. We are a trick shot team That pulls the trigger too willy nilly .looks great when it works

One wonders how he would go in a more rigid system where the example set by others is more conservative in its approach
 

XV-1

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Hmmm. From yesterday.

Does Schu or doesn't Schu have a calf injury?

Seibold and Metrov can't even get their stories the same.

I really hope they are not shafting the young kid as Schu firing will be the X factor in Manly havinga chance of winning the GF this year. Turbo has to be fit as well.
 
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Hmmm. From yesterday.

Does Schu or doesn't Schu have a calf injury?

Seibold and Metrov can't even get their stories the same.

I really hope they are not shafting the young kid as Schu firing will be the X factor in Manly havinga chance of winning the GF this year. Turbo has to be fit as well.
I do recon Schuster has reaggravated his calf and i recon i know why. I've seen a few articles now and seen podcasts talking about how individuals have a set body shape and size. Obviously, Schuster can loose 10 kilos and still be fine but the transition of trying to get fitter this off season in short time puts the muscles in an unfamiliar position causing leg injuries.
Honestly wouldn't mind is Schu gets the kick but I recon he needs to play at least 10 games in second row just to make sure he's a dud.
Send him to Dragons for 500k as starting half as they need creativity and x factor in attack with no specialist five eight in attack and we got a great deal. Yes we loose 300k but if Burbo is playing better he would be playing bench worth around 200k and we be loosing 600k. So Manly, don't be greedy give him a crack and if he fails and a deal like this comes up take it with both arms.
 

Stewbojevic

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I must admit it’s all starting to seem a bit fishy. Him not attending the fan day etc.

They are hiding him from the public eye for some reason.
 

double hoops

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Shoe has frustrated me too. BUT

But let's give him some time.

I'm not talking about a free ride in A grade I'd be playing Burbo, Matterson, etc ahead of him if they deserve it.

He should benefit from a decrease in pressure being out of the halves.

Him having given evidence about being next to his best mate.. Before he passed.

Perhaps there is reason the club have been patient with him.

We can't change what happened in the past. But as a club, a team we can embrace it, be motivated by it and grow.

Snake and Gifty gave it to gallop after winning a gf.

Wouldn't it be nice to hear Shoe Saab and others talk about how Keith showed them the way in the clutch moments. Just like when crashed over for that 20s GF win.

Win as a team. Lose as a team. But United we stand.
 

jbb/james

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I think josh could do with a new manager/PR man but as he is getting paid overs at this stage its hard to imagine he would want one
 

SeaEagleRock8

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Him having given evidence about being next to his best mate.. Before he passed.

Perhaps there is reason the club have been patient with him
A very good point. Which I had forgotten.

Josh was just 19 when that happened. If it had been me I have no doubt it would have made me nervous about pushing my body too far at training, especially with Schu also having a big build, as Keith had.

I'm glad Seibold is being patient and not expecting Schu to produce his best immediately. Over the next year or two he could easily repay that faith.
 

ALinda

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Him having given evidence about being next to his best mate.. Before he passed.

Perhaps there is reason the club have been patient with him.
Very true. As critical as I have been of him, after reading about the inquest, I'm now cutting Schu a bit of slack.

It would be very difficult to relive the events and give evidence about his best mate (as well as for the other players and staff involved). He's got his injury/fitness issues but he might well have mental issues too, understandably. Hopefully the club gives him and others the support they may need to start round 1 in a reasonable frame of mind.
 

Dion Johnson

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His best friend died in front of him. It’s time we change the Josh Schuster narrative​


In the last three years, few NRL players have been interrogated more than Josh Schuster.
If it wasn’t his form, it was his fitness, and if it wasn’t his fitness, it was the $800,000 a year he was trousering as one of the NRL’s brightest prospects.

Doubtless he has been paid on the enormous potential he is trying hard to fulfil, as opposed to consistently high levels of performance. But that is the prerogative of an NRL club.
Some would say the scrutiny comes with the territory of being a highly paid professional rugby league player, as long as it’s within reason. Buy the ticket, take the ride.

But maybe some context is needed. For more than three years Schuster has been dealing with the death of his childhood friend right in front of him at Manly training. A companion with whom he was so close that he refused to let go of his hand as he sat with him on the floor of the club’s Narrabeen gym after he suffered a seizure.

With his head bowed and his throat choking with sobs as he gave his evidence, a window into Schuster’s world emerged inside a sterile courtroom during the coronial inquest into the death of former Sea Eagles player Keith Titmussat a training session in November 2020.
Manly Sea Eagles player Josh Schuster attends the inquest into the death of former player Keith Titmuss.

The court heard Schuster sat on the floor of the dojo with Titmuss, holding his hand even as Manly support staff and paramedics tried to clear the area to render emergency care.
Schuster had been close friends with Titmuss since kindergarten. They’d played junior footy together and, in the words of Schuster, they “wanted to play NRL and for their country [Samoa] together”. It was a dream they were well on the way to achieving.

As a cast of Manly officials at the time – including former coach Des Hasler – have climbed into the witness box to give their version of events on that fateful day, most of whom have broken down in tears during their evidence, it’s hard to think anyone outside Titmuss’ family has carried as much emotion as Schuster.

“I still believe a lot of the boys are affected by what happened,” Manly’s former head physio James Rahme told the inquest.

Apart from being a witness, Schuster has also attended other harrowing days of the hearing, sitting quietly in the courtroom offering support to the Titmuss family.
They now know the likely cause of Keith’s death was exertional heatstroke, ending an uncertainty which has lingered for years.

The inquest will continue this week. Deputy state coroner Derek Lee will then make recommendations, no doubt focused on how hard NRL players train in the opening weeks of pre-season and the number of medical personnel required at each session.
While the inquest might help with the grieving process for Titmuss’ family, it might also help Schuster. He is human, like all other players, and has carried this horrific tragedy in the early years of what is hopefully a long NRL
This pre-season hasn’t been easy either. He’s had a dose of chickenpox, a spiral fracture of his finger and a minor calf strain.
But Sea Eagles officials privately knew those setbacks were nothing compared to the Titmuss inquest on the horizon – and they know the narrative needs to change around Schuster, still only 22.

When Sea Eagles captain Daly Cherry-Evans publicly challenged Schuster over his standards last year, the rugby league world sat up and took notice. Those conversations are usually kept behind closed doors, but Cherry-Evans stared straight down the barrel of a television camera and didn’t miss.
His tune has been very different this year.
“Look, he’s had a really hard off season, to be completely honest,” Cherry-Evans said. “I don’t think now is the time to be challenging Josh about where he is at, The priority is just making sure he’s all good.
“Ask anyone who’s had setback after setback. It’s actually really hard, mentally, so it’s just making sure we’re supporting Josh at the moment ... because I know he’ll hold up his end of the bargain and work hard to get in the side.

“I don’t know when he’s back, I don’t know when he’s ready to play, but I just know he makes our team better when he’s fit and healthy, and I’m sure we’re going to be leaning on Josh this year.”

The Sea Eagles will play the Roosters in their main trial match next weekend before jetting off to Las Vegas for the historic double-header at Allegiant Stadium. It will be the start of a long climb back to the finals under coach Anthony Seibold.

Tom Trbojevic aside, maybe no player will have more of am influence on their fortunes this year than Schuster.

And possibly only now are we understanding what he’s really been going through.
 
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BOZO

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His best friend died in front of him. It’s time we change the Josh Schuster narrative​


In the last three years, few NRL players have been interrogated more than Josh Schuster.
If it wasn’t his form, it was his fitness, and if it wasn’t his fitness, it was the $800,000 a year he was trousering as one of the NRL’s brightest prospects.

Doubtless he has been paid on the enormous potential he is trying hard to fulfil, as opposed to consistently high levels of performance. But that is the prerogative of an NRL club.
Some would say the scrutiny comes with the territory of being a highly paid professional rugby league player, as long as it’s within reason. Buy the ticket, take the ride.

But maybe some context is needed. For more than three years Schuster has been dealing with the death of his childhood friend right in front of him at Manly training. A companion with whom he was so close that he refused to let go of his hand as he sat with him on the floor of the club’s Narrabeen gym after he suffered a seizure.

With his head bowed and his throat choking with sobs as he gave his evidence, a window into Schuster’s world emerged inside a sterile courtroom during the coronial inquest into the death of former Sea Eagles player Keith Titmussat a training session in November 2020.
Manly Sea Eagles player Josh Schuster attends the inquest into the death of former player Keith Titmuss.

The court heard Schuster sat on the floor of the dojo with Titmuss, holding his hand even as Manly support staff and paramedics tried to clear the area to render emergency care.
Schuster had been close friends with Titmuss since kindergarten. They’d played junior footy together and, in the words of Schuster, they “wanted to play NRL and for their country [Samoa] together”. It was a dream they were well on the way to achieving.

As a cast of Manly officials at the time – including former coach Des Hasler – have climbed into the witness box to give their version of events on that fateful day, most of whom have broken down in tears during their evidence, it’s hard to think anyone outside Titmuss’ family has carried as much emotion as Schuster.

“I still believe a lot of the boys are affected by what happened,” Manly’s former head physio James Rahme told the inquest.

Apart from being a witness, Schuster has also attended other harrowing days of the hearing, sitting quietly in the courtroom offering support to the Titmuss family.
They now know the likely cause of Keith’s death was exertional heatstroke, ending an uncertainty which has lingered for years.

The inquest will continue this week. Deputy state coroner Derek Lee will then make recommendations, no doubt focused on how hard NRL players train in the opening weeks of pre-season and the number of medical personnel required at each session.
While the inquest might help with the grieving process for Titmuss’ family, it might also help Schuster. He is human, like all other players, and has carried this horrific tragedy in the early years of what is hopefully a long NRL
This pre-season hasn’t been easy either. He’s had a dose of chickenpox, a spiral fracture of his finger and a minor calf strain.
But Sea Eagles officials privately knew those setbacks were nothing compared to the Titmuss inquest on the horizon – and they know the narrative needs to change around Schuster, still only 22.

When Sea Eagles captain Daly Cherry-Evans publicly challenged Schuster over his standards last year, the rugby league world sat up and took notice. Those conversations are usually kept behind closed doors, but Cherry-Evans stared straight down the barrel of a television camera and didn’t miss.
His tune has been very different this year.
“Look, he’s had a really hard off season, to be completely honest,” Cherry-Evans said. “I don’t think now is the time to be challenging Josh about where he is at, The priority is just making sure he’s all good.
“Ask anyone who’s had setback after setback. It’s actually really hard, mentally, so it’s just making sure we’re supporting Josh at the moment ... because I know he’ll hold up his end of the bargain and work hard to get in the side.

“I don’t know when he’s back, I don’t know when he’s ready to play, but I just know he makes our team better when he’s fit and healthy, and I’m sure we’re going to be leaning on Josh this year.”

The Sea Eagles will play the Roosters in their main trial match next weekend before jetting off to Las Vegas for the historic double-header at Allegiant Stadium. It will be the start of a long climb back to the finals under coach Anthony Seibold.

Tom Trbojevic aside, maybe no player will have more of am influence on their fortunes this year than Schuster.

And possibly only now are we understanding what he’s really been going through.
Thank you for this emotional post @Dion Johnson
Being a very emotional person I feel the loss the pain the distress the sadness and the devastation that one of my favorite Manly players the Schu feels

Life spares no one from tragedy and a Tragic Loss initially and emotionally brought me down to my knees.

I was hurt , I never went to get help , I never wanted to see any one as I sunk top the depths of my self pity self suffering .

Until one day I had enough of self suffering and said to my self FCK THIS PAIN ! what am i doing to my self ? Self Pity is self abuse . Let me repeat . Self Pity is self Abuse

We are all humans and humans come with feeling and emotions and emotions are a powerful thing but we can use those powerful emotions to turn Tragedy into Triumph

But the first thing that we need to do is break our self Pity chains as Self Pity is self emotional Abuse

The late Great Grand final Hero Keith Titmuss is free from pain and remains a Manly Grand final winning Legend

It s time for the Great Shu to free himself from Self pity emotional abuse and turn this Tragedy into a Manly premiership winning Triumph and join his Brother as Manly premiership winning legends

Josh Schuster it is your time to Shine
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Tragic Eagle

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There is no light switch to flick here, every person is different and their process is different. I am very pleased the club is focusing on his wellness and that they are giving Josh the time to deal with this. This inquiry will be very difficult and painful. Few people / footballers have had to deal with circumstances like these. To expect that he can remain focused right now is just plain unrealistic.
 
Good read.

The rainbow seven game is something that will always be an unfortunate side-note on his career. And the other six guys. It wasn't exclusively his fault though, there were other factors that went into it and the club as a whole learned a lot from it.

That aside, we all want him to be the best player that he can be and to live up to all his promise.

Nice reminder that everyone deserves peace, love and understanding. And that everyone is dealing with difficult emotions, feelings and life events with their families and friends.
 

BOZO

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There is no light switch to flick here, every person is different and their process is different.
That is very sad some think this way
We need to change our way of thinking if we are to turn things around
The fact is the light switch is on the fingertips of every one
And each one of us chooses to remain in the dark or switch that fcking light on !
Self Pity is Self Abuse !
 

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