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How long will Foran last?

  • 1 month

    Votes: 10 13.5%

  • 2months

    Votes: 9 12.2%

  • 3months

    Votes: 7 9.5%

  • 4months

    Votes: 3 4.1%

  • 5months

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • 6months

    Votes: 3 4.1%

  • Has the best season since 2011

    Votes: 42 56.8%
  • Total voters
    74
  • Poll closed .
Eagleheart said:
And you know what I have been disappointed with Matai and Brett as well, there is a sense of arrogance from them that I have never seen before. Matai
trotted out with I did what makes my family happy when resigning, did he once ever mention how much he loved Manly??? Brett has been carrying a chip on his shoulder for a few months and I hope he loses it very soon.
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I have noticed this about Matai and Snake as well and it is seriously concerning. Matai signed with us because we offered the most $ and his family didn't want to move. That's hardly a glowing endorsement on the club.
After supporting them for so many years I find it hard to believe all those players are a-holes. 1 or 2 maybe, but 5??? There must be a good reason they are all so unhappy.
12 months ago we had a culture where players all loved playing together and most (if not all) were happy to take unders to keep it that way. Now most of them can't wait to get out of the joint and even those that stay don't look like they want to be there. I know there are exceptions like Ballin, but the majority of our superstars just don't seem to have any love for the club whatsoever.
Is it simply getting rid of Gift that caused all this? If so, anyone who was a part of that decision should be fired immediately. They should have been close enough to the playing group to see this coming. The fact is that it simply couldn't have turned out any worse than it has.
If it was something else then the club needs to work out what it is and deal with it swiftly and effectively.
 
Grunta Seagle said:
I believe Keiran will make the eels a top 4 team almost by himself.
I will watch them with one eye next year afterall, half the eels are previous manly players!
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Unfortunately the eels will need the other half of the Manly players for them to make a real Manly team and go all the way to the top .
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Eagleheart said:
You know what I am actually getting really, really annoyed at our management and Foz.

So it was fine for management to get Toovey to take the coach role when it suited them? When the coach they had at the time chose money over Manly and tried to destroy the club on the way out.

Toovey did an incredible job through that extremely tough time and has been doing an incredible job IMO ever since.

So what the heck is going on?

I mean even Watamouth was even quoted saying this about Tooves a while back.
''Tooves held this club together,'' back-rower Anthony Watmough says. ''He's been the glue that kept this club together. We were expected to fall apart and then we came within one game of the grand final last year …

Above quote taken from the following link
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/tough-school-the-geoff-toovey-way-20131003-2uxgv.html

He has been taken so much crap since Des left but continues to face up.

And as for Foz..........well Foz almost left to the Dog$ years ago and is carrying on like a spoilt little brat now. If anyone should be dropped to the reggies, it is Foz. Don't give him an early release, don't pander to him, don't offer him a revised more $$$ contract. His form was rubbish at the end of last year and he has been walking around like he has the world on his shoulders. I think he has a major attitude problem and needs to be taught a lesson.

And you know what I have been disappointed with Matai and Brett as well, there is a sense of arrogance from them that I have never seen before. Matai
trotted out with I did what makes my family happy when resigning, did he once ever mention how much he loved Manly??? Brett has been carrying a chip on his shoulder for a few months and I hope he loses it very soon.

Anyway, I am ropable at the moment and knowing that Foz has agreed to terms with the squeels makes me furious. When did this happen, when did our management know and who is telling the truth?

I think Foz may be far more toxic than DCE has ever supposedly been. He is definitely not captain material in my mind...!

Tomorrow night I will be going to support the likes of Toovey, Killer, Buhrer, JSL, Matty Ballin, etc. The ones who posses the real spirit of Manly, the ones who see past the BS and put in for the jersey and play football which is what they are paid to do.

The squeels can have Foz but next year because over there they have no spirit, so he will fit in nicely.
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I tried to look for some photos of Brad Arthur in battle, but i note he didn't actually play a game of first grade.

Who wouldn't want to play for this guy. It beggars ****ing belief.
 
mjb136 said:
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I tried to look for some photos of Brad Arthur in battle, but i note he didn't actually play a game of first grade.

Who wouldn't want to play for this guy. It beggars ****ing belief.
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Wait.....hahahahaha - the Dalai's wiki page.

Playing career[edit]
Arthur was a Parramatta Eels junior and played SG Ball and Under-21's for the club.[2] He then moved to thePenrith Panthers where Royce Simmons advised him he would never make first grade
 
Grunta Seagle said:
I believe Keiran will make the eels a top 4 team almost by himself.
I will watch them with one eye next year afterall, half the eels are previous manly players!
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Who we took off you in the first place. Just putting out the garbage no what i'm saying?
 
To be fair what champion players make great coaches?

Ricky Stuart was a fantastic player....
Bellamey pretty average....
Maguire average player
Bennett never played at the top level
Cleary was an average to good player

I would say that Hasler is one of the few top notch players (and some could argue that) in the current game who is a successful coach
 
lsz said:
To be fair what champion players make great coaches?

Ricky Stuart was a fantastic player....
Bellamey pretty average....
Maguire average player
Bennett never played at the top level
Cleary was an average to good player

I would say that Hasler is one of the few top notch players (and some could argue that) in the current game who is a successful coach
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Yes exactly right.

I made a point a day or so ago that perhaps 2V needs a "people manager", that tag teams him and deals with the players and their issues.

A very good example would the QLD Origin team, if anyone thinks Smellmafinga does the coaching then they are on the ju ju beans, all he's there for is to fire them up.

He's surrounded by other coaches, and for 8 straight years its worked a treat.

I'm sure Tooves is passionate, I'm sure he's good at tactics but it sounds like he's shyte at dealing with the young players.
 
highlandeagle said:
It's time for Joke Kelly to grow some,withdraw the offer to Arthurs love child and show him the door ffs.How long is he going to drag this proud clubs name through the mud for.Banish him to park football for the rest of the year
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I reckon Foz is praying that Joke does pull the offer. In fact he's probably pissed off that it hasn't happened considering what happened with $CE. He can then continue on how conflicted he was about the whole decision making process and try and save face. Problem is we all know he was always going to the Eels.
 
lsz said:
To be fair what champion players make great coaches?

Ricky Stuart was a fantastic player....
Bellamey pretty average....
Maguire average player
Bennett never played at the top level
Cleary was an average to good player

I would say that Hasler is one of the few top notch players (and some could argue that) in the current game who is a successful coach
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laurie daley is ok. But no idea how he would go in first grade coaching. Trent robinson played 3 nrl games. Paul green is going ok. He is a former state of origin and Australian halfback.

For the record I think it helps having a player background
 
Player yes I wonder at what level - how much of what a great player could do can be coached
 
Kevinward777 said:
I reckon Foz is praying that Joke does pull the offer. In fact he's probably pissed off that it hasn't happened considering what happened with $CE. He can then continue on how conflicted he was about the whole decision making process and try and save face. Problem is we all know he was always going to the Eels.
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Make no bones about it-that's exactly what KF wants, as did DCE
 
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