And no I don't mean Jarryd I mean Kevin Shayne. If his influence in favour of the rorters in the 2013 grand final had not been so blatant and we had won where would we be today? Same owners? Same coach? Players? CEO, board etc. I personally may be slightly less impatient or in wonder of where our next premiership will be but I just can't help think things may be a bit more stable but who knows.