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The good, the bad and the Oldfield

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by silvertail, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. silvertail

    silvertail Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +443 /9
    The good.

    2 from 4 is acceptable. We have played well this year and on track for b2b, pending injuries and suspensions later in the year.

    The bad.

    Too bad we are missing stars. Gift and T-Rex would have made a huge difference tonight.

    The ugly.

    Listened to Warren Ryan just before kick-off. He argued that Oldfield made 2 huge errors last week that cost us the game, even though we didn't deserve to win. There was the poor tackle where he should have wrapped up his man that led to an offload and try. There was that terrible pass to Stewart that cost us another try. Ryan argued that Oldfield was so terrible that he cost us the match. I have to agree with him.

    Fast forward to the game against the Dragons. It's redemption time for Oldfield. So what does he do? 3 clangers that arguably cost us the match...again!

    1. After a sustained arm wrestle, he knocks on early in the count and diffuses 20min of pressure we worked hard to build.

    2. Makes a disgraceful effort to turn/chase/run the right line/legally shoulder if he has to make sure he gets to the ball first. I swear that I saw him turn and then run off the field giving the chasers a saloon passage to get to the ball first.

    3. Pretty much a repeat of the previous poor effort to turn and chase the ball.

    From memory, he cost us more than one game last and we were all breathing a sigh of relief when he was not selected in the finals.

    I dont hate him and I wish that he improves and becomes a star player for us. But I would prefer that he proves that he can play at least 6 lower grade games in a row, without costing his team, before he gets another crack.
  2. Volley

    Volley Well-Known Member

    +1,109 /54
    Pfft wrong. Blaming a wInger = nO idea
  3. silvertail

    silvertail Well-Known Member Premium Member

    +443 /9
    Wingers are not asked to do much and he makes far too many errors. Consistently costly errors.
  4. Ian Martin tragic

    Ian Martin tragic Well-Known Member

    +186 /0
    Wingers have to do a fair bit these days. Yes he did make some costly errors tonight. one where foran had done the hard work to force a change of posession on halfway, and then oldfield spills the ball running from dummy half on the zero tackle.

    Too bad farrar isn't fit; it might be good to have an experienced outside back option at present. On balance I think it's best to stick with oldfield as he'll improve with experience (and someone give him an uppercut....).
  5. Manly Daly

    Manly Daly Member

    +20 /0
    Whare to wing when Matai is back.
    Seems alot safer and confident to me.
  6. King

    King Active Member

    +98 /5
    For sure. Oldfield seems extremely nervous.
  7. wombatgc

    wombatgc Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +4,511 /73
    Definately. Tooves has just got to get into Stevies ear about passing the ball to Whare...he's making half breaks evertime he gets the ball in his hands.
    Everyone keeps saying how quick Oldfield is in open space, but his speed over the first 20 metres (crucial as a winger) is not evident to me. Slow and lethargic turning and chasing.
  8. Sheikheagle

    Sheikheagle Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,458 /64
    He makes me extremely nervous with and without the ball
  9. bob dylan

    bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +6,440 /192
    It's the old NSW Blues theory.

    When beaten drop a winger and a second rower.

    Its crap.
  10. Darren

    Darren Well-Known Member

    +560 /20
    He is a rookie but playing nrl there is nowhere to hide. Nightingale was superb last night and had a field day against Oldfield.
  11. Matabele

    Matabele Well-Known Member

    +516 /14
    Put Whare on the wing when Matai returns. Whare is very impressive.
  12. eagles2win

    eagles2win Well-Known Member

    +494 /0
    So you want to hook a specialist winger and replace him with a centre?

    Have I got this right?
  13. WAMF

    WAMF Well-Known Member

    +408 /0
    If the centre turns out to be a better winger than the 'specialist' winger, why the hell not?
  14. Andrew..

    Andrew.. It's better to burn out, than to fade away. 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +2,535 /31
    Competition within the team is great for the club and Whare has taken his opportunity with both hands, it will be interesting to see what Tooves does.
  15. Chip and Chase

    Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +8,582 /80
    Oldfield's efforts on both of Nightingales tries was poor. No urgency, and on the second occasion he actually ran out of the field of play to cause minimum disruption to the chasers. If he checks Nightingale, or makes him change line then Snake wins the race. His knock on wasn't good but that happens to the best of players, but the rest of it was ordinary. I miss Robbo. At the moment Whare > Oldfield in all aspects and should get the wing spot when Matai returns.
  16. Cameron

    Cameron Cambo

    +669 /35
    So we lose on the back of a bull**** try and poor read by kingy and ballin in they weyman try and you blokes want to blame
    Oldfield. Talk about vultures.
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    • WAMF

      WAMF Well-Known Member

      +408 /0
      Mate, Oldies positional play has much room for improvement.
      I think this is what shows him up at times.
      Whare has been superb and needs to be in the side when Matai returns.
    • Andrew..

      Andrew.. It's better to burn out, than to fade away. 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +2,535 /31
      So Cambo do you think it's back to the reggies for whare when Matai returns....that's a genuine question, I'm not taking the piss.
    • EagleRock40

      EagleRock40 Well-Known Member

      +211 /4
      If Tooves thought Oldie was having a shocker, he could have easily hooked him last night and put Jorge Taufua on. Like it was for Buhrer, it would have been tough for the young guy to sit on the bench all night and not get a run. We cant blame Olide for the loss. As a team we played pretty good, just got beaten by a better team on the night.
    • Phantar

      Phantar Well-Known Member

      +273 /0
      Oldfield reminds of a young Steve Knight. Pretty to look at, but seemingly lacking in confidence for his size and speed. Robbo would have had Nightingale covered last night.

      Back to the drawing board.

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