The Daly Cherrygraph

[47MVEagle]

Where Galvin lands will tell the tale. My bet is the Bulldogs. What has mucked up DCE is that Manly offered him 750K per season for 2 years so the Rorters can’t register a contract for less than that. So it’s likely that managing the cap is an issue for them.

Here you go @Thewestisbest - in the other thread someone posted a grab about the NRL valuing DCE at $400k, which you seemed to agree with, because you quoted it as an example of why Galvin's market value is what the Tiger's offered him.

What say you now then? According to the above, his market value is actually $750k because that's what Manly offered him.

 

[DUFFMAN]

Here you go @Thewestisbest - in the other thread someone posted a grab about the NRL valuing DCE at $400k, which you seemed to agree with, because you quoted it as an example of why Galvin's market value is what the Tiger's offered him.

What say you now then? According to the above, his market value is actually $750k because that's what Manly offered him.

The way I understand it if we signed DCE for $700,000 because of the long serving rules there is a $300,000 discount.
If any other club signs him for $700,000 than that's what he is valued at, other clubs can't claim he has signed for $400,000
I don't think they can claim under $700,000 as that what the NRL value him at.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

If i had written 27 books and been awarded as a writer would that give this post / opinion more cred……NO

No but more people would read it.

(I would have bothered to read it, for one )

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Thought I don’t trust Gus…

No-one trusts him. Yet he is admired for being canny, rather than reviled for his dishonesty.
Just goes to show (something!?)

 

[jbb/james]

No but more people would read it.

(I would have bothered to read it, for one )

I thought using myself as an example would help show how bizarre it could be

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

The way I understand it if we signed DCE for $700,000 because of the long serving rules there is a $300,000 discount.
If any other club signs him for $700,000 than that's what he is valued at, other clubs can't claim he has signed for $400,000
I don't think they can claim under $700,000 as that what the NRL value him at.

This is on the NRL site so can be checked but from memory a long serving NRL player can still get the discount, his seasons don't all have to be at the same club.
On the other hand it's only 300k per club, not per player (again from memory).

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I thought using myself as an example would help show how bizarre it could be

If you do write a book let me know, I'd buy one

 

[jbb/james]

If you do write a book let me know, I'd buy one

If i do i might ask you to proof read it, and your copy would be free anyway.

Got a goal to do a stand up routine this year and have been prepping and writing

Up in darwin atm, when i get back have to put timelines to it

 

[Peter C]

The way I understand it if we signed DCE for $700,000 because of the long serving rules there is a $300,000 discount.
If any other club signs him for $700,000 than that's what he is valued at, other clubs can't claim he has signed for $400,000
I don't think they can claim under $700,000 as that what the NRL value him at.

You'll find that that long service salary cap discount doesn't apply solely to DCE, it applies to the total salary cap of the club and probably already used by the club to upgrade another player

 

[Peter C]

This is on the NRL site so can be checked but from memory a long serving NRL player can still get the discount, his seasons don't all have to be at the same club.
On the other hand it's only 300k per club, not per player (again from memory).

I was under the impression that his service would have to be with just one club

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I was under the impression that his service would have to be with just one club

Veteran and Developed Player Allowance​

Veteran and Developed Player Allowance for eligible players who were either developed by the club prior to becoming NRL players and/or have been a Top 30 player for at least 8 years at the club or have been a Top 30 player for at least 10 years across the game.

The Salary Cap

Here are the official guidelines for the NRL salary cap, including frequently asked questions like what players can earn outside the salary cap, how much can clubs spend, third party agreements and more.

www.nrl.com

 

[mickqld]

The way I understand it if we signed DCE for $700,000 because of the long serving rules there is a $300,000 discount.
If any other club signs him for $700,000 than that's what he is valued at, other clubs can't claim he has signed for $400,000
I don't think they can claim under $700,000 as that what the NRL value him at.

So is it possible that Manly offered him that 2 year $750K deal to fu*k him over elsewhere so that they (as in rorters) can't sign him on some bullsh*t $300-400K deal with all the rorting 3rd party deals behind it ?? If so it's a master stroke.

 

[Thewestisbest]

Here you go @Thewestisbest - in the other thread someone posted a grab about the NRL valuing DCE at $400k, which you seemed to agree with, because you quoted it as an example of why Galvin's market value is what the Tiger's offered him.

What say you now then? According to the above, his market value is actually $750k because that's what Manly offered him.

No. I said fair market value was a rule supposedly policed by the NRL
Let's see who he signs with and for how much. That will be very telling. I also said the NRL were not usually impartial when applying the rule. Glen Stewart is the example I used. The article shows that there is a fair market value placed on players by the NRL. You asked for evidence of the rule, no?

I hope this helps your confusion

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

You might say Daly's window of opportunity is geting smaller and smaller by the day...lol.

That too

 

[47MVEagle]

No. I said fair market value was a rule supposedly policed by the NRL
Let's see who he signs with and for how much. That will be very telling. I also said the NRL were not usually impartial when applying the rule. Glen Stewart is the example I used. The article shows that there is a fair market value placed on players by the NRL. You asked for evidence of the rule, no?

I hope this helps your confusion

I'm not confused biff, I'm simply asking you to explain exactly how it works, since you're all over the place telling us all how it works, & taking others who disagree with you task.

It's plain you DKS about the NRL's market value process.

 

[EaglesDontTweet]

I could be wrong but the $400K base cap limit for DCE that Danny Weidler speculated would apply to Manly or any other club that signs him I'm sure doesn't relate to the Long Service Allowance (or not all of it).
Reading his article the $400K was based on comparing DCE's future contract value to the recent NRL valuing of Ben Hunt (at 35yrs) at $650K. A bit tricky depreciating a player's value because they'll be 37 next year yet are still 'marquee' enough to be captaining their State.