The Daly Cherrygraph

I don't understand how anyone is blaming the club and not this guy based on what has come out so far.

It's obvious that DCE has signed somewhere else and did so 12 months ago. He has lied to the club and said he wasn't sure what he was doing and the club has respected that and given him time, then made what was a pointless offer.

You don't come out and say "I want to play on but not there" without having a guarantee of something else. You always also don't disrespect your teammates and the fans by doing it the way he has done.

I know we made him a desperation offer back in 2015 or whenever it was, but he sure didn't say then "oh no, that's too much, pay me less".

And I am sick of this narrative that these guys only have a limited time in the game so they need to make as much as they can. The guy is 37 and has made 10 times what the majority of people will make in their careers. And he has another 30 years to get a "real" job. Life and work doesn't end when they stop playing the game.

I have a team this weekend that have 16 guys that I really want to support, and I will hope they go well. But it'll be without me watching, because I cannot watch and support a player, not just any player but the captain, who has such a massive disregard for this club. MY club. OUR club.

Also, please never compare anyone at our great club to Smith and Slater. Who knows how many contracts they were paid under. Likely more than 1.
Well put mate.

And totally re those defending him about the money. I think I read a comment from one poster sighting unit prices being high these days and he needs to support his family. Fairdinkum we ain’t talking about your average first grader here. Guy has earnt what 13mil plus in the game. Amassed countless assets no doubt and will earn as much post footy than he will playing! He’s literally one of if not the highest earner in the game over the last ten years. Bit tone def in the context of what most are dealing with these days arguing he needs to maximize his earnings given what he already has.
 
Something light-hearted to end the week if anyone's interested:

After last Saturday's captain's run, the players came along the fence for an impromptu signing of posters, photos with fans, etc. DCE signed various paraphernalia handed to him, which he found amusing (e.g. coat hanger, wheel brace, etc)

The guy next to me asked DCE to sign his arm as he was going to get a tattoo of his initials. DCE steps back and says (something along the lines of) "hang on, I don't think this is a good idea, you need to carefully think about it." The guy begs him to and, after much toing and froing, eventually DCE signs his initials. Then the guy says "but wait, you haven't signed the 'D' properly, can you please fix it?". DCE had moved on and turns back to him and replies "no, I did that on purpose as I don't think you should get the tattoo".

I thought at the time that DCE was advising him to be careful about going ahead with a tattoo, but in hindsight I think he was advising him not to as he knew he was about to announce he's going and the guy mightn't have been so keen on a tattoo had he known this. The things that happen...
 
Something light-hearted to end the week if anyone's interested:

After last Saturday's captain's run, the players came along the fence for an impromptu signing of posters, photos with fans, etc. DCE signed various paraphernalia handed to him, which he found amusing (e.g. coat hanger, wheel brace, etc)

The guy next to me asked DCE to sign his arm as he was going to get a tattoo of his initials. DCE steps back and says (something along the lines of) "hang on, I don't think this is a good idea, you need to carefully think about it." The guy begs him to and, after much toing and froing, eventually DCE signs his initials. Then the guy says "but wait, you haven't signed the 'D' properly, can you please fix it?". DCE had moved on and turns back to him and replies "no, I did that on purpose as I don't think you should get the tattoo".

I thought at the time that DCE was advising him to be careful about going ahead with a tattoo, but in hindsight I think he was advising him not to as he knew he was about to announce he's going and the guy mightn't have been so keen on a tattoo had he known this. The things that happen...
A morally decent thing he did there.
 
Something light-hearted to end the week if anyone's interested:

After last Saturday's captain's run, the players came along the fence for an impromptu signing of posters, photos with fans, etc. DCE signed various paraphernalia handed to him, which he found amusing (e.g. coat hanger, wheel brace, etc)

The guy next to me asked DCE to sign his arm as he was going to get a tattoo of his initials. DCE steps back and says (something along the lines of) "hang on, I don't think this is a good idea, you need to carefully think about it." The guy begs him to and, after much toing and froing, eventually DCE signs his initials. Then the guy says "but wait, you haven't signed the 'D' properly, can you please fix it?". DCE had moved on and turns back to him and replies "no, I did that on purpose as I don't think you should get the tattoo".

I thought at the time that DCE was advising him to be careful about going ahead with a tattoo, but in hindsight I think he was advising him not to as he knew he was about to announce he's going and the guy mightn't have been so keen on a tattoo had he known this. The things that happen...

I'm assuming that sportspeople have different signatures for autographs as opposed to say their cheque books. If not I wouldn't want my sig around on a tattoo either. lol.

guy should've asked for his pin instead!
 
I must admit (well I don't, but I am) that I'm looking forward to the post dce era.

Maybe I just want a change for change's sake, who knows.

So, packing up the way this has been handled by the club and Daly, then wrapping it in packing tape, putting the box to one side and seeing cats immediately jump up and sit on it....lemme say this:

I don't mind dce is moving on. I wouldn't boo him at the game either.
I think most team mates handle players coming and going easier than we do.
I don't think dce will 'dog' it, nor do I think the players will try to throw a season.
They're in the nrl for a short time. Daly's longevity is not the norm, here.

2011 was a looooong time ago and it was a super team he was privileged to be a part of.
Since then it's like he's been a very reliable vehicle (I dunno, Ford xr8?) but now we need something a bit spicier, a bit different.

I think over the last few years there's been a real stagnation to Daly's / Manly's game.

The nrl see him as one of the best, but Manly needed a new cog.

If these youngsters coming through are as good as the hype, then I'm even happy for a couple of transitional years until that happens.

I'm not sure where the turbo to the halves comes from as I've never even seen him there. But it's turbo so he'd go ok, I don't know.

Too long?
Daly was good, time for a change as things have stagnated.




It just reminded me of Curtis Sironen in his last Manly year where every time dce passed him the ball...he would annoyingly cutback inside and get tackled. - that level of stagnation, lol.

Have a good weekend champions.
 
2011 was a looooong time ago and it was a super team he was privileged to be a part of.
Since then it's like he's been a very reliable vehicle (I dunno, Ford xr8?) but now we need something a bit spicier, a bit different.

I think over the last few years there's been a real stagnation to Daly's game. The nrl see him as one of the best, but Manly needed a new cog.
Good morning feathered friend and thank you for your DCE perspective view

Our 2011 premiership winning team was indeed a star studded team
And in that winning Grand final DCE was no passenger . He was one of the most Prominent Performers scoring a Great solo try and setting up another for the Snake .
That Grand final winning performance earned him Rookie and halfback of the year .

I did not see any real stagnation in DCE's game in the last few years as you say
In the last few years DCE dominated at SOO the highest level in the game from 2013 till recent

The Durable DCE has 2 more Dynamic years in him
and Good luck to the club that is willing to pay his Elite Value
 
That's nice.

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Good morning feathered friend and thank you for your DCE perspective view

Our 2011 premiership winning team was indeed a star studded team
And in that winning Grand final DCE was no passenger . He was one of the most Prominent Performers scoring a Great solo try and setting up another for the Snake .
That Grand final winning performance earned him Rookie and halfback of the year .

I did not see any real stagnation in DCE's game in the last few years as you say
In the last few years DCE dominated at SOO the highest level in the game from 2013 till recent

The Durable DCE has 2 more Dynamic years in him
and Good luck to the club that is willing to pay his Elite Value
Aaah back to the days when he ran the ball. He didnt really take up passenger status until after he signed what seemed a lifetime contract

The real irony here is how he just seems to keep on keeping on which is definitely part super power, he is freakish but its only part.

His protected contract status became an opportunity to withdraw from some or the rigours ball players usually encounter. Ball running like the game you discussed .

His very selective ball playing style or the chook move where he concedes is about keeping himself out of harms way first and foremost

His lack of contact and his choices on what type of contact he looks for by racing out of the line has probably extended his career beyond everyones expectations

A decade of allowing him to play fancy and safely is indeed a debt he owes manly
 
I must admit (well I don't, but I am) that I'm looking forward to the post dce era.

Maybe I just want a change for change's sake, who knows.

So, packing up the way this has been handled by the club and Daly, then wrapping it in packing tape, putting the box to one side and seeing cats immediately jump up and sit on it....lemme say this:

I don't mind dce is moving on. I wouldn't boo him at the game either.
I think most team mates handle players coming and going easier than we do.
I don't think dce will 'dog' it, nor do I think the players will try to throw a season.
They're in the nrl for a short time. Daly's longevity is not the norm, here.

2011 was a looooong time ago and it was a super team he was privileged to be a part of.
Since then it's like he's been a very reliable vehicle (I dunno, Ford xr8?) but now we need something a bit spicier, a bit different.

I think over the last few years there's been a real stagnation to Daly's game. The nrl see him as one of the best, but Manly needed a new cog.

If these youngsters coming through are as good as the hype, then I'm even happy for a couple of transitional years until that happens.

I'm not sure where the turbo to the halves comes from as I've never even seen him there. But it's turbo so he'd go ok, I don't know.

Too long?
Daly was good, time for a change as things have stagnated.




It just reminded me of Curtis Sironen in his last Manly year where every time dce passed him the ball...he would annoyingly cutback inside and get tackled. - that level of stagnation, lol.

Have a good weekend champions.
It's interesting that this post popped up at a time when I, myself, was reflecting on his footballing prowess. For the record, I agree that DCE was successful in 2011 off the back of the 'team' he was in. I agree with Bozo that he was one of our best on the day, but that opportunity was afforded to him by the incredible work of a genuine 'team'.

In terms of his game stagnating in the last few years, I have to disagree. Personally, I think he is in career best form in all aspects, with the exception of a running game that fizzled out almost 10 years ago. The first 3-4 seasons of Daly's career, he was a lethal running threat; certainly faster than the average halfback and deceptively strong. He could take on the line and torch opposition defences. Then, overnight, it disappeared. Why? I don't know. He's still pretty quick across the ground, but it's almost like he no longer sees the opportunities and/or protects his body. It's probably why he is still running around at 36 years of age.

There were some difficult seasons for Daly (2015, 2016, 2018, 2020 stand out as the worst) and they all coincide with the lack of a genuine foil at 6, or in 2015's case, a contract saga for both himself and his foil in Kieran Foran). Under Seibs, he has probably played his best football. His work on our right edge with Olakau'atu, Tom out the back and Saab on the end of things, has been exceptional. He's been winning us games off the back of field goals and his kicking game is the best and most controlled it's ever been.

But...

In all of that, we've won 3 finals games since DCE took the reigns as captain and chief playmaker. Is that all his fault? Of course not, but he is certainly responsible for some of it. In big games and tight contests, I have seen him struggle to have an impact. Last year's final against the Chooks is a good example. We were in the game and pressing at one point in the second half and had a number of sets on the Roosters line and he couldn't find a way to get it done. We didn't look like scoring. He didn't look like he had a plan. That brings me to Daly's biggest weakness. He is a bit of a flat track bully. Not the worst of them but there's a touch of it in his game. When the going is good, he is unstoppable. When the going gets tough, he tries, but is largely ineffective. Sure, he'll kick a field goal in a tight contest, but they're often in round games against average opposition, to steal victory after a pretty poor performance. Whereas the likes of Cronk, Thurston, Cleary, and Johns, would come up with a try in the heat of a finals battle against quality opposition.

Anyway, I still think DCE is terrific player, in spite of his questionable moral code, but if there's one weakness in his game, it's the low % stuff that wins big games against quality opposition. I hope whoever steps up in the coming years, can be a big game player...but they're bloody hard to find!
 
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And to think a player of that calibre you described
Would be one of the highest caped players at the highest level in the game at S00
Where he Dominate one of the most dominant halves in the game Cleary
Perspective is Indeed a wonderful thing feathered friend

DCE alway$ ha$ the last Laugh
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You're an interesting cat, Bozo. Incredibly passionate about Manly, yet even more passionate about players that spit in Manly's face.
 

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