The Daly Cherrygraph

[Sheikheagle]

Yeah plenty of taken pay cuts as they enter the twilight of their careers. But not our money hungry club captain. I have constantly defended his character in the past, what a fool i have been.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Definitely if Manly were shopping him or those murmurs Gus heard that would have been leaked to Danny Weirdo and we would have all heard that via Fairfax…

Yes one would think so, it would have been massive news and surely someone would have leaked it, whether deliberately or recklessly.

 

[Tragic Eagle]

A player is worth what a club is prepared to pay for him. How do you gauge that? For most clubs that depends on what they need, how much room they have left or they can make under the salary cap and what third party deals they have to assist them. It is unlikely Manly shopped him around and I would have expected that his manager was testing the market as of November 1 2024 which would have led him to seek a release in December 2024. Manly don't get a lot love from the press so the speculation that generates a lot of the stories is slanted against the club.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Yeah plenty of taken pay cuts as they enter the twilight of their careers. But not our money hungry club captain. I have constantly defended his character in the past, what a fool i have been.

You're not a fool for that.

Seriously, the difference in earning over the one-two year period wouldn't amount to more than c500k, realistically.

Which is why my own sherlock holmes investigation has always suspected it's more to do with post-footy long-term opportunities he sees. Penn on the other hand, whether due to basing himself in the US or maybe just due to not being friends with enough other Manly-supporting rich people, couldn't offer the same 'introductions' as the likes of Politis, Throughbreds, Souths heavy hitters, now Laundy, rich dolphins, etc

But I'm now in the Jake camp, don't really care. Just play well this year and try to win the prize, I'm sure DCE will be trying and in an odd way his move may act as a spur to the side? here's hoping anyway.

 

[AndWeDon'tCare]

Sport Confidential: Manly boss Scott Penn stands firm over club’s handling of Daly Cherry-Evans saga

It’s become one of the most drama-filled player exits ever, but Manly owner Scott Penn has insisted the club did everything possible to keep Daly Cherry-Evans, defending their handling of the contract saga. SPORT CONFIDENTIAL.

Manly chairman and owner Scott Penn has backed the club’s handling of the Daly Cherry-Evans contract bombshell after Sea Eagles powerbrokers held an inquest into the saga at a board meeting on Tuesday night.
Penn insists the Sea Eagles could do no more. His endorsement of the way it was handled came as Manly stalwart Jake Trbojevic admitted he could never play against the club and spoke about his desire to captain the side next season.

Penn, who is based in New York, had only been in Sydney a matter of days when he found his club enveloped by one of the biggest stories of the year.

Cherry-Evans’ decision to declare this his last year at Manly led to plenty of finger-pointing, much of it in the direction of the club.

Penn spent Tuesday with key officials revisiting their handling of the negotiations and walked away comfortable that they could do no more.

Sport Con can reveal that Manly head of recruitment Peter Gentle presented to the board on Tuesday night in the wake of the Cherry-Evans drama, where it was revealed that;

• Manly first spoke to the Cherry-Evans camp about a contract extension on November 20 last year, with a one-year deal in the vicinity of $750,000 discussed;

• Sea Eagles officials walked away from those talks believing that Cherry-Evans camp wanted more money;

• Manly powerbrokers believed that after years of being the club’s top earner, a slight pullback in salary was within reason, in much the same way Cameron Smith and Billy Slater had taken pay cuts in the twilight of their careers;

• Manly decided last week to table a two-year deal to Cherry-Evans but waited until after the game on the weekend to make an official offer.

By then it was too late. Cherry-Evans’ mind was already made up.

We put we put a number on the table back in November last year,” Penn said.

“We have email records of it. I mean it wasn’t a formal NRL contract, but it was a firm offer saying this is the number we can get to.

“They effectively said they wanted more. So we’ve been behind the scenes trying to lock in that number since that day.

“We always said that we wanted him to stay at the club. We presented the best offer we could to stay within the cap.

“He’s been well paid for the last 12 or so years. We were looking for a slight pullback, but it wasn’t ridiculous.”

The news was still reverberating on Sydney’s northern beaches on Thursday as the club finetuned their preparations for Sunday’s game against Parramatta.

Trbojevic was among those who received a heads-up on Monday of Cherry-Evans’ decision prior to the captain’s appearance on television, where he went public. Asked if he could ever see himself playing against Manly, Trbojevic – a Manly junior who is off contract at the end of next season – said: “It just wouldn’t happen. I couldn’t do it personally.

I definitely couldn’t imagine it, no. You never say never. We never thought Glenn Stewart would leave the club, [even though] he got forced out.

“We never thought Cherry-Evans would leave the club. Right now, my answer would be ‘no’. I love this club. It means the world to me.

“I’ve been here since I was 14 in junior development.”

Cherry-Evans’ imminent departure means the club will be on the search for a new captain and Trbojevic put his hand up. He also went into bat for his brother Tom, conceding he would be a potential skipper as well.

“I’m excited to continue being myself and keep leading the way I do, and I hope next year I get to be captain,” Trbojevic said.

“It would be a true honour and I’d do this club proud.”

Brent Read and Michael Carayannis

I eagerly await and I'm on standby for the obligatory retort from the linguist, his manager and the NEC/SMH crew.

 

[XV-1]

What is the long service salary cap discount Manly get on DCE? 150 or 200k.
Manly offered him 700 - 750k per year. Or 500 - 550 off the salary cap

No wonder he he leaving and no wonder no clubs offered him a deal last year as Manly were in the driver's seat well and truly.

Simple fact, Manly did not want to keep him by low balling him.

 

[jbb/james]

give it a couple of weeks to settle and move him on

a few have speculated his most recent contract was 800 when jounos still had him at 1 mill

no way he is toys out of the cot dropping from 800 / 750 . never could quite get to the source

do you reckon jakey would have been as shocked as he was if it was knowledge around the club for a year or so that all is not well in daly city. mmmmmm

just not seeing it.

 

[Tim]

If we look at the timeline
DCE asked for a release at the end of the 2024 season was rejected.
The Roosters sign Townsend for one year.This was cooking for over a year it's a done deal since 2024 I have no issues with DCE chasing money it's how he played it out as a club captain its sneaky and disrespectful but hay he has form in this department.

 

[47MVEagle]

(he was p*ssed that the club did not want to pay him his worth but would not let him go either)…

This isn't correct - he apparently wanted out in 2024 but the club kept him.

His current contract is valid until November 2025, so they're paying him his worth, they just didn't let him break his contract 1 season early.

 

[Waz13]

Why feel aggrived?

The guy has given his absolute all for this club and in turn they have paid him very well.

It's a 2 way street. We as a club let our club captain fatty Vautin go when he'd run his time. Des hasler was a great player that was also shipped out. Beaver was sent packing to the UK when he still had a season in him. All because the club had better options.

If DCE was starting to fail and getting injured all the time the club would be happy to ship him off.

Are we angry because he's still very good and he's going? Can be the only reason because if he was **** everyone on here would be commending the club for making the hard decision. Goes both ways.

The reason we are angry is he might go to the roosters and possibly win a premiership. If he comes out and retires then he's a hero again.

I think most are annoyed about the way he’s (and perhaps the club) gone about it. Not so much that he’s leaving.

Initially I was a bit gutted as have always been a fan of dce (although he was never a perfect 7 and still don’t think he’s a great organizing half). My (and from reading her I think many) disappointment was due to the romantic idea there was no chance he’d ever leave and then would retire a one club legend and move into coaching or something at the club. But it’s done now so move on.

I’m actually fine he’s leaving now and am looking forward to change in the club. Like many have said we’ve won what 3 finals games in ten years with him leading/steering this team. And that’s not all on him obviously as I think he’s helped us avoid the spoon (maybe more than once) and been a great player. Just think a change could be a real positive for the place. He was prob done after another season anyway so let’s move forward.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Doesn’t matter what we post , some will blame the club , he’s a legend , we’ve lowballed him etc etc , and others “ **** him he’s shat on us fans move him on asap “.

I really hope from here, we ( as in Silvertails ) just move on.

Let’s talk about games , other players , our next halfback , up and coming kids , whatever , but let’s not waste any brainpower discussing a player who ,

A) clearly doesn’t want to be here any longer
B) has obviously signed a mega deal elsewhere ( yes it’s the Roosters , only ones who can fulfill the 10 million plus package he would want).
C) clearly couldn’t give a **** about us fans by the way he handled the announcement.

Let’s not be dicks and boo him, let’s be smart and just ignore him, he’s doesn’t care so why should we!

PS: and ignore all the media BS, they are pushing out stories every few minutes now mainly so you “ click “ and view more advertisements. So let’s not play their game , ignore these pricks as well.

 

[frank stokes]

This isn't correct - he apparently wanted out in 2024 but the club kept him.

His current contract is valid until November 2025, so they're paying him his worth, they just didn't let him break his contract 1 season early.

Yeah I don’t think the club are in the wrong on that point… I was suggesting that Chez has seen the door closing here, been more than aware that he could get more $$$ elsewhere and felt stuck… that is not on the club, he agreed to a contract so see out the contract…

The problem I have with the club is they tried to play both sides of the fence instead of getting this sorted and being upfront with fans… it SHOULD have become obvious a long time back that they were not going to be able to retain him - so get on the front foot, put an offer to him and own the outcome… “we have offered x because of the limitations of the cap, our squad rah rah rah…”

holding off because you thought you could wear him down on price was risky and ended up making them look (look?) stupid…

 

[frank stokes]

What is the long service salary cap discount Manly get on DCE? 150 or 200k.
Manly offered him 700 - 750k per year. Or 500 - 550 off the salary cap

No wonder he he leaving and no wonder no clubs offered him a deal last year as Manly were in the driver's seat well and truly.

Simple fact, Manly did not want to keep him by low balling him.

Maybe we do not have the third party’s to make up the extra? We pay him $1M then it only takes $800K off the cap… but we still have to find the extra $200K… we may just not have it…

 

[47MVEagle]

Yeah I don’t think the club are in the wrong on that point… I was suggesting that Chez has seen the door closing here, been more than aware that he could get more $$$ elsewhere and felt stuck… that is not on the club, he agreed to a contract so see out the contract…

The problem I have with the club is they tried to play both sides of the fence instead of getting this sorted and being upfront with fans… it SHOULD have become obvious a long time back that they were not going to be able to retain him - so get on the front foot, put an offer to him and own the outcome… “we have offered x because of the limitations of the cap, our squad rah rah rah…”

holding off because you thought you could wear him down on price was risky and ended up making them look (look?) stupid…

Dunno if the club were doing that though - if we believe what both parties have said, DCE told the club he was leaving at the end of this season, possibly retiring or heading overseas.

From the language used ("we respected his wishes & held off making an offer") it sounds to me that DCE used it as a way of discouraging the club from making him an offer, so he can't complain that they didn't make an offer.

Anyway, I'm more inclined to believe the most recent article posted on the previous page - that the club made him a 1 year offer for $750k & that wasn't enough for him. It sounds about right given our salary cap situation with DCE, Haumole & the Turbos on big $$$ & our recent extension of Hopoate. Plus all news about it prior to DCE's announcement on Monday night was saying the sticking point was 1 year vs 2 years.

I think the club knew they couldn't offer DCE what he wanted & instead of wearing that & looking for another club for when his current contract expires, he pushed for an early release so he could sign a big contract with the roosters. The club wouldn't let him break his current contract to leave a season early & he's spat the dummy & made his big announcement without letting the club know.

Unfortunate, but can't be undone now & we move on.

 

[Eagle 1]

The list of clubs interested is dropping fast and it’s only the media blowing smoke up his ass.

It’s like a big house auction where nobody is bidding and the real estate agents are looking around for an interested party.

It’s down to the Roosters and Dolphins.

I think everybody realises the asking price is too much for an old home. The Roosters may have already put in a bid that is way above the reserve.

Lol...got visions of the auctioneer with a rolled up newspaper in hand, saying, once, twice, then saying are we all done, people at the back on the phones, are we all done, still no response. Then says 3 times, sorry but it hasn't met the reserve, we need to speak to the players agent. Back in a minute folks.

 

[Frogz]

I still believe the release he asked for was to get him out of playing last year and this year. He could then go out and get a rich 3 year deal with a1 year option. He is a grub.
Last I will say about him now. (unless he turns up and plays like sh1t Sunday).

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I still believe the release he asked for was to get him out of playing last year and this year. He could then go out and get a rich 3 year deal with a1 year option. He is a grub.
Last I will say about him now. (unless he turns up and plays like sh1t Sunday).

I declare this to now be a

DCE free zone

Everything that needs to be said , has been.

It’s over , done and dusted , let’s just move on

 

[Eagle 1]

I declare this to now be a

DCE free zone

Everything that needs to be said , has been.

It’s over , done and dusted , let’s just move on

Agree, we got a game to play and win on Sunday. Lets try and put all of this behind us. Think this past week will totally galvanize the team, I'm expecting a big win on Sunday.

 

[XV-1]

Maybe we do not have the third party’s to make up the extra? We pay him $1M then it only takes $800K off the cap… but we still have to find the extra $200K… we may just not have it…

Penn doesn't have 200k. Remember, all NRL clubs are virtually funded by the NRL for salary cap.
If Penn doesn't have 200k , we r in big trouble as a club.

 

[skull61]

all this talk about him coaching is ridiculous why would he want to coach if he can get a cushy media gig sitting on the couch where he only has to work 2 or 3 days a week