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Yet both club and player are saying “there were no other offers so the club did not table an offer”

They are all lying… this comes down to a bust up over the term of the deal (2 yrs) I reckon - which was the original rumour going around…

Manly have other plans for 2027 (and fair enough) but just stop the charade and be straight with the fans (both Chez and the club)
 
I can't help but feel that Mestrovs hairdo has something to do with all of this. Fair dinkum Tony...you look like you dump a can of condensed milk on your head every morning, then let the dog lick it until it's time to go to work. Sort yourself out.

And @Mark from Brisbane is absolutely spot on about the white anting at the Broncos by the old boys. I know firsthand. That's why I loved it when Kevvie got the arse. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke!
Yep, my insider was pretty high up in the management team, and really he only told me because he’d defected to the Dolphins.

But yes absolutely shafted to get their mate Kevvie in.

That story that @LeonardCohen posted ( I know he just posted it for balance ) was simply contrived by the Bronco masthead , the Courier Mail to make Seibold look bad.
 
Paid him what the Roosters would will pay him to take him way from us and that is Market Elite half Value
Players are not accountable to manage the Cap
Smart Club Cap operators are
Players are accountable on how they play
Not sure if you'd written it elsewhere but out of interest, if the club had offered DCE around $1.25M per season for the next two years and we could only afford $750K who would you let go and? All clubs (except Roosters and the Storm) are challenged by a salary cap. Unfortunately our salary cap has been way out of balance for too long which is partly why we haven't had a team that is able to consistently be anywhere near challenging for a premiership .... that's not Mestrov's fault.
 
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Wasn "t under any obligation but D C E in his capacity as a leading long term player and captain really should have had the common courtesy and at least some responsibility to give some reasonable notice not too much longer after he had decided to part ways with Manly .
Just can not envisage that he would not be aware of the difficulties and disruption he would cause in delaying giving notice in terms of the club having to find a suitable replacement at least in the immediate future and a few games into the season .
Maybe he just did not care
Sure that things will eventually settle down club wise with the reality an established player is moving on and irrespective of the obvious and in many ways unnecessary controversy associated with the matter
But the long delay in revealing his actual future intentions , blindsiding the club and resulting in quite a few less then ideal ramifications , just really poor form to say the least.
Really owes the club and supporters big time to produce for his remaining games , again to say the least
 
I think the club has been generally on the right track since Mestrov arrived yet I tend to agree…

this is a BIG f*ck up - not because Chez is gone so much as allowing it to get this messy - we are talking about the longest-serving player in the clubs history and he has up and left from under Mestrov’s nose and without an offer being tabled… it is a massive breakdown in communication and (regardless of whether Chez is a money-hungry b*tch) makes the club look stupid…
I don't think we ****ed up ... DCE showing his true colours ... again ... I really think we will come good in a year or two .... finally, - we won our last GF in his first year ... he didn't win it for us .... we had a very good team, and he hasn't led us to another one ... this year WAS a chance of another one .... but its unlikely now ... imho
 
That story that @LeonardCohen posted ( I know he just posted it for balance ) was simply contrived by the Bronco masthead , the Courier Mail to make Seibold look bad.
Yep, pretty well documented now. But as others have mentioned, Seibold has also acknowledged he made some errors back then as well. Heard an in-depth podcast interview recently where he talked about these days being far more focussed on delivering only a couple of simple messages in each session, and checking to make sure the message is getting through. He clearly takes coaching and education very seriously, always open minded and trying to learn more.
He's not your traditional tough guy rugby league coach, but I can't see any reason his methods can't work. They seem to be working.
 
I don't think we ****ed up ... DCE showing his true colours ... again ... I really think we will come good in a year or two .... finally, - we won our last GF in his first year ... he didn't win it for us .... we had a very good team
Yep we had a good team in 2013 also but Chez got the CCM in a losing side…

Manly was lost in the wilderness as an organisation for a very decent part of the interim period since that 2013 GF also… not saying he is Jonathon Thurston but Chez is a very, very good player and not even close to the reason we have not been competitive… imo…
 
Why be nervous? He's going, who cares who to? It's almost certainly going to be the Roosters but I don't care. I still don't think people are taking enough stock of his age.
Exactly! Who gives a **** where he goes. All i hope is that when we play him, we belt the living tripe out of him and remind him how stupid his decision was. And it would be absolute heavenly sweet poetic justice if we won a comp in the next year or two with someone else leading the team. But i’m not bitter.
 
Not sure if you'd written it elsewhere but out of interest, if the club had offered DCE around $1.25M per season for the next two years who would you let go and we could only afford $750K? All clubs (except Roosters and the Storm) are challenged by a salary cap. Unfortunately our salary cap has been way out of balance for too long which is partly why we haven't had a team that is able to consistently be anywhere near challenging for a premiership .... that's not Mestrov's fault.
If the club could see clearly that they could not afford to pay DCE the money he was worth then dont waste his time and prolong the process and turn into an embarrassing Manly Media Circus

A Competent CEO would front the Media unified with the Manly Captain and say
We would like to thank our Captain for his Great contribution to our Legendary club
We would have very much liked to have kept him a one club player but unfortunately due to cap restrictions we are not able to offer him the money he is worth

By saying this Mestrov would have been more professional and would have come out of this with more Dignity avoiding this unnecessary Media and fan fiery fiasco
But it appears evident we have Mediocre people running our club
 
So apparently:

-DCE asked twice for a release pre-2024 season
-The club tried to shop him to other clubs for season 2025
-both parties discussed his future in October 2024 but no formal agreements were made
-no "formal" offers were made to DCE by other clubs
-2 clubs showed "informal" interest in DCE

Whatever the truth is, it's clear the situation (extending him) is untenable, so we move on as of 2026.

We were going to have to move on without him within the next 2 years anyway so whatever. I'm awaiting any announcements about his replacement with great interest.

I just don't like the way he did it by booking a press conference on a DCE-friendly TV show, apparently 2 weeks in advance. The rest of the stuff is the usual "he said she said" stuff we hear every time a long-serving player leaves a club, so I tend to place no importance in it.
 
Yep we had a good team in 2013 also but Chez got the CCM in a losing side…

Manly was lost in the wilderness as an organisation for a very decent part of the interim period since that 2013 GF also… not saying he is Jonathon Thurston but Chez is a very, very good player and not even close to the reason we have not been competitive… imo…
Not sure how you can absolve him of all blame given he’s been our captain for the majority of that time and our controlling half back?? Yeah, there are other factors involved, but the record is undeniable. Perhaps he didn’t lose all those games for us, but he also didn’t win enough games for us either.
 
Yep we had a good team in 2013 also but Chez got the CCM in a losing side…

Manly was lost in the wilderness as an organisation for a very decent part of the interim also… not saying he is Jonathon Thurston but Chez is a very, very good player and not even close to the reason we have not been competitive… imo…
Yes I'm not blaming him alone but his leadership has been questioned plenty of times on here by plenty of members ' the headless chook syndrome which appeared many times when we were not winning .... he is dynamite when we are firing all guns but has gone missing many times as captain and one of the worlds best ... imho
Honestly the more this goes on the more comfortable I am with him leaving. His ending with Manly is more predictable than him leading the team to a GF.
 
If the club could see clearly that they could not afford to pay DCE the money he was worth then dont waste his time and prolong the process and turn into an embarrassing Manly Media Circus

A Competent CEO would front the Media unified with the Manly Captain and say
We would like to thank our Captain for his Great contribution to our Legendary club
We would have very much liked to have kept his a one club player but unfortunately due to cap restrictions we are not able to offer him the money he is worth

By saying this Mestrov would have been more professional and would have come out of this with more Dignity avoiding this unnecessary Media and fan fiery fiasco
But it appears evident we have Mediocre people running our club
You really do live in your own self-constructed reality, don't you?

What have the club done or said to turn it into an "embarrassing Manly Media Circus"?

What has DCE done to AVOID turning it into an "embarrassing Manly Media Circus"?
 
Yes I'm not blaming him alone but his leadership has been questioned plenty of times on here by plenty of members ' the headless chook syndrome which appeared many times when we were not winning .... he is dynamite when we are firing all guns but has gone missing many times as captain and one of the worlds best ... imho
Honestly the more this goes on the more comfortable I am with him leaving. His ending with Manly is more predictable than him leading the team to a GF.
Could not agree more with your conclusion. I’m becoming more and more comfortable/excited about him leaving and what the club can do with some new talent.
 
You really do live in your own self-constructed reality, don't you?

What have the club done or said to turn it into an "embarrassing Manly Media Circus"?

What has DCE to AVOID turning it into an "embarrassing Manly Media Circus"?
BOZO’s a Queensalnder don’t forget. He’s sticking up for one of his own. Bloody Queenslanders 🤣 At least once DCE leaves Manly we can start hating on him properly.
 
I just don't like the way he did it by booking a press conference on a DCE-friendly TV show,
DCE did that because the CEO had no diplomacy skill what so ever
Diplomats don't escalate things .
Good Negotiators are able to control difficult situations without upsetting people
I dont like the way Mestrov handled this either
He was accountable and he failed
 
You really do live in your own self-constructed reality, don't you?

What have the club done or said to turn it into an "embarrassing Manly Media Circus"?

What has DCE done to AVOID turning it into an "embarrassing Manly Media Circus"?
I have already explained this in my many previous posts feathered friend
The reality is we see different point of views
Have good day
 

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