The Daly Cherrygraph

It's fairly easy to blame the Club and my posts last night weren't defending the Club nor were they "attacking" DCE, both parties, are in my considered opinion, at fault.

What grinds my gears is the carefully constructed narrative being perpetuated across the media mainly by those pro-DCE that the Club didn't respect him by offering him an offer, or that the Club insulted him by making him a "low-ball" offer.

The Club was told of a certain position by DCE and his agency and as late as pre-Christmas 2024 BOTH parties accepted that position.

In late January 2025 his agency and the football manager began discussions about the "possibility" of DCE continuing on however, and DCE had said this himself, he didn't wish to entertain staying at Manly as at the end of December 2024, he had made his mind up.

The Club was foolish enough and silly enough to believe that and are now paying the price for thinking that no-one else would come to the table.

Then again, perhaps the Club believed what they were told earlier in the negotiations about "where DCE was at in terms of playing on".

A question that has been running through my mind [is], why would the Club shop him around for the remaining year of his contract (2025) well before 1 November 2024 if the Club knew they weren't going to re-sign him before that date yet both parties have confirmed that "discussions" commenced at the end of the 2024 season?

If this was the case, we'd have heard about DCE being shopped around OR perhaps he was shopped around last year (as Braith Anasta leads us to believe) and at that time, there weren't too many suitors.

This entire saga has all the hallmarks for an episode of the Twilight zone.
Your questions are my questions @AndWeDon'tCare … not sure we will get the answers anytime soon…

So far I am pretty certain I have just heard “versions” of the truth from all parties… there is a significant hole in the logic of the negotiations…

at some point trust/respect was lost (either by action/inaction or perceived slighting/disrespect) - that is the bit that is interesting and we may never know what it was… it is becoming obvious that Chez led the club up the garden path but we don’t know if that is because the club sh*t in the garden… 😁

As for the narrative… that is what these wannabe journos do… I really did expect Fox to side with the club though (as they missed the scoop)
 
According to AI this is a summary of the DCE contract stuff

  • 2011: Debuted for the Manly Sea Eagles and played a key role in their premiership win.
  • March 2012: Signed a contract extension with Manly until the end of 2015, upgrading his salary from approximately $85,000 to around $500,000 per year.
  • Mid-2012: Reports emerged that Cherry-Evans was unhappy with his deal and sought another upgrade, causing tensions within the club.
  • March 2015: Signed a four-year contract with the Gold Coast Titans, set to begin in 2016.
  • June 2015: Backflipped on the Titans deal before the Round 13 deadline, signing an eight-year, $10 million “lifetime” contract with Manly. This led the NRL to abolish the backflip rule.
  • 2018 – Willie Mason Comments: Former teammate Willie Mason criticized Cherry-Evans for the way he handled his contract dealings. Mason recalled a moment when Cherry-Evans announced his Titans deal during a team meeting, which Mason felt was unnecessary and poorly received by teammates.
  • 2018 – Anthony Watmough Comments: Former Manly teammate Anthony Watmough publicly labeled Cherry-Evans as selfish and accused him of contributing to a toxic environment at the club.
  • 2018 – Jackson Hastings Incident: Cherry-Evans was involved in an altercation with teammate Jackson Hastings, leading to a reported fallout in the playing group. Cherry-Evans was fined $10,000, and Hastings was ultimately pushed out of the club.
  • April 2022: Signed a two-year extension with Manly, keeping him at the club until the end of 2025.
  • March 24, 2025: Announced he would not be signing another extension with Manly and would leave at the end of the 2025 season, despite a two-year, $1.5 million offer.
Oh and this

Glenn Stewart's Departure (2014): In 2014, salary cap pressures led to Glenn Stewart's exit from Manly. Reports indicated that retaining Cherry-Evans was a priority for the club, and Stewart's departure was seen as a move to free up salary cap space to accommodate Cherry-Evans' contract demands
Great write up and ever so accurate. He in a toxic Money hungry long neck selfish prick . He is a one man show on his books. He appears to have zero consideration for others.
 
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1. Georgie Rose giving him a shove when he came in to celebrate a try. That felt like he had the whole team behind him.
I may be thinking of a different time (or creating my own memory perhaps) but I recall George shoving Daly one time because Rosie dropped a pass that would have been a try and did not appreciate Chez telling him he had sh*t hands lol

I do have a very poor memory though so grain of salt and all that…
 
Hello Silvertails, back in Aus and have been finally lured back by the drama after an off-season hiatus 🙂

This whole situation is quite odd to be blunt, and In my view there are 3 dynamics at play here:

(1) The Club defence angle:
  • Mestrov needs to defend the club's position in all this, thats his job
  • The club's decision making in light of the accusations of 'lowballing' and mismanagement of negotiations.
  • Being accused by the Murdoch press of being 'Filthy' at DCE about the announcement and countering that by trying to dilute this narrative with 'we were always in the know', IE in control
  • Needing to avoid the irony of screwing up yet again after the high-profile 'backflip' on the Titans, where ultimately Manly paid a premium to keep DCE long-term, after fumbling the initial negotations and favouring a Foran-led outcome.
Even though that call on a long-term DCE contract arguably paid off, it wasn't by design, rather sheer dumb luck that DCE proved to be so durable, and easily met the Minimum Viable Product of a marquee signing that benefited from the reality of inflation of contractual value. He was far more convincing as a long-term signing than virtually every other player at other clubs on similar arrangements (eg Taumalolo, Ponga, Hunt - who had injury/form challenges over their contract periods)

(2) DCE Legacy angle
  • DCE is defending his reputation and right to choose his own path. He is trying to avoid a 'Mercenary' brand to his currently wholesome legacy
  • However his reasoning lacks a rational justification. He could have made his decisions under the umbrella of the Manly Club, and ruled out picketing other clubs to make a point of his value.
  • He obviously is not interested in a post-game career in coaching with Manly after the way he has handled this
  • It's his last year at the Manly club he says. He is leaving the club so he can consider his future - without any pressure. Yet Manly insist the lack of an offer was an agreed upon point.
  • His reasons for wanting out of the club to embrace the freedom to 'consider his options' are absolute bollocks. If the club werr not putting any pressure on him to make a decision and not 'withholding a contract', rather waiting on his direction for whether he would play on, then that is understandable - not many players would be eligible for a contract of significant value at his age. Even the NRL valued his benchmark contract at $400k.
  • Manly insist they would have presented a contract in the scenario a competitive offer was forthcoming, else they would have waited his decision, assessed his value/form and reacted accordingly. From a bsuiness standpoint it's plausiable.
  • DCE is articulate in the way a politician is articulate - he has the ability to sound rational even when he is sprouting bull****. Perhaps he should consider a political career.
DCE is good, but he's not that good. And the Manly Club is either sincere, or mealy-mouthed and gaslighting DCE. Depends who you choose to believe. While DCE sounds professional and expresses himself in a way that is superior to most NRL players and even NRL Media, his logic in this matter has serious flaws - I don't buy that he needed to extricate hinself from the club overall to make this decision. It doesn't impact his market value, and gives him a security blanket to take his time. So either the Manly Club was pressuring him to make a decision (which they seem to deny), or he has used non-existant pressure to make a call as an excuse to justify bailing on being a 1-player club legend, for reasons we don't fully undertand at this time. (but hey, Cooper Cronk might...)

(3) Media is trying to cash in

As this absolutely shi*ts on the normal 'coach under pressure after 3-rounds' crap they have to spin out of necessity due to lack of material.

Fox will milk this like the proverbial cow. Ryles/Payton/Woolfe must be thanking their lucky stars for DCE about now, deflecting heat on their winless starts to the season.

The headlines run by Newcorp should be treated as they deserve - utter contempt. The Manly Club substantially weakened their credibility by pitching a 2-yr offer on NRL-360 though. That was an incredibly bad move. I am embarrassed for the club over that given their explanations since then that an offer was contingent on another club making an offer. So is there an offer from another club? DCE seems coy and evasive on that front.

If Manly were - as they claim - on top of the negotiations with their captain then this shouldn't have been necessary. It should never have got to this. DCE himself claimed he had spoken to the club as far back as December and made up his mind on not being at Manly beyond 2025 - and relayed that to the club, who in turn didn't bother with an offer.

The 2-yr offer they hastily mashed together to give the impression of 'doig something' was clumsy and revealing - regardless of Mestrov's justification it looks desperate and impulsive. It burns the credibility that Manly are in control of this, and hands DCE the power to refuse - which he did - to a public forum. Well done Manly, you now look like a khorum of muppets. Whoever made that call at Manly Clubland? That was simply....Bad. It might actually be the most telling play in this saga actually, as it contradicts so much of Mestrov's diatribe about the collaborative position of club/player. It leads to an undenaible conclusion that DCE had an Axe to grind with the club, who had 'wronged him' somehow. Whether thats the lack of an offer or otherwise is a moot point. The damage is done.

The outcome is that either DCE was not clear in his intentions to the club - which reflects poorly on him - or that the club were not clear in their intentions to put down an offer of substance. This reflects poorly on the Club. The Club has more experience in this than DCE does - regardless of his history or personal gifts beyond the average NRL player. The club wears a lot more blame in failing to address this and pre-emptively damage-control the whole scenario. Now we see Mestrov out trying to mitigate the fallout (doing ok at it to be honest, but really - he sounds a tad disingenuous to me)

Neither party can come out of this clean frankly. If DCE decides to renege on his position and re-sign with Manly now, after what he has said on Fox, he will look like an opportunist. If Manly offer him a contract value well in excess of the NRL evaluation of $400k, they will look captive and weak in negotiation. It hurts all involved.

The most logical explanation is that DCE has already signed with another club, but is not yet ready to reveal it. This undermines my view of DCE as an intellgient operator - he will be a club legend if he sticks it out at Manly until retirement. Chasing 1-2 more seasons at $750k-$1mil max may give him a decent sugar hit, but beyond that he has limited his legacy. Its a weird move - unless he has a succession plan already in place with another club - eg Cronk and Rooters.

It will not surprise me to find out DCE is going to play 1-2 seasons at the Rooters, replacing Townsend at the end of 2025, partnering and mentoring Walker, and giving the Rooters an artificial boost to their credentials during an acknowledged 'rebuilding' phase. And in return, Uncle Nick's brown paper bag has a nice retirement plan mapped out for him in a way that the Manly Club never defined.

If that ends up being the case, then that is on the Club, not DCE. We can't expect every player to be wired like the Beaver, with an unassailable loyalty to the club - which is not really reciprocated (else they would have rectified the tragedy which denies Beaver his true tally of club games, on the technicality of the 'Northern Eagles' debacle). Let's see what DCE's next move is. And in the meantime, lets hope it doesn't de-rail a promising season, and that it galvanises the crew for a big season. After 2022 though, i'm not so confident of triumph in the face of advseristy with this mob.
 
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I'd like to hear dce agree with or refute Mestrov's claims that they were told he was looking to retire or go overseas and were looking to touch base at round 6 to see where his head is at.

Secondly, who was the last captain of a club to announce he was leaving a club on a footy show. Weidler has a knack of pulling in dopeys to give exclusives to their own detriment.
 
I'd like to hear dce agree with or refute Mestrov's claims that they were told he was looking to retire or go overseas and were looking to touch base at round 6 to see where his head is at.

Secondly, who was the last captain of a club to announce he was leaving a club on a footy show. Weidler has a knack of pulling in dopeys to give exclusives to their own detriment.
That’s the most dissatisfying bit for me, as club Captain to go out to the media and make an announcement like that was extremely poor from a leader.

I will remember him as a good player for the club and wish him best of luck for his future.

I certainly hope that the club consider who captains the club going forward as of recent events DCE is not the best option to captain the club.
 
Hello Silvertails, back in Aus and have been finally lured back by the drama after an off-season hiatus 🙂

This whole situation is quite odd to be blunt, and In my view there are 3 dynamics at play here:

(1) The Club defence angle:
  • Mestrov needs to defend the club's position in all this, thats his job
  • The club's decision making in light of the accusations of 'lowballing' and mismanagement of negotiations.
  • Being accused by the Murdoch press of being 'Filthy' at DCE about the announcement and countering that by trying to dilute this narrative with 'we were always in the know', IE in control
  • Needing to avoid the irony of screwing up yet again after the high-profile 'backflip' on the Titans, where ultimately Manly paid a premium to keep DCE long-term, after fumbling the initial negotations and favouring a Foran-led outcome.
Even though that call on a long-term DCE contract arguably paid off, it wasn't by design, rather sheer dumb luck that DCE proved to be so durable, and easily met the Minimum Viable Product of a marquee signing that benefited from the reality of inflation of contractual value. He was far more convincing as a long-term signing than virtually every other player at other clubs on similar arrangements (eg Taumalolo, Ponga, Hunt - who had injury/form challenges over their contract periods)

(2) DCE Legacy angle
  • DCE is defending his reputation and right to choose his own path. He is trying to avoid a 'Mercenary' brand to his currently wholesome legacy
  • However his reasoning lacks a rational justification. He could have made his decisions under the umbrella of the Manly Club, and ruled out picketing other clubs to make a point of his value.
  • He obviously is not interested in a post-game career in coaching with Manly after the way he has handled this
  • It's his last year at the Manly club he says. He is leaving the club so he can consider his future - without any pressure. Yet Manly insist the lack of an offer was an agreed upon point.
  • His reasons for wanting out of the club to embrace the freedom to 'consider his options' are absolute bollocks. If the club werr not putting any pressure on him to make a decision and not 'withholding a contract', rather waiting on his direction for whether he would play on, then that is understandable - not many players would be eligible for a contract of significant value at his age. Even the NRL valued his benchmark contract at $400k.
  • Manly insist they would have presented a contract in the scenario a competitive offer was forthcoming, else they would have waited his decision, assessed his value/form and reacted accordingly. From a bsuiness standpoint it's plausiable.
  • DCE is articulate in the way a politician is articulate - he has the ability to sound rational even when he is sprouting bull****. Perhaps he should consider a political career.
DCE is good, but he's not that good. And the Manly Club is either sincere, or mealy-mouthed and gaslighting DCE. Depends who you choose to believe. While DCE sounds professional and expresses himself in a way that is superior to most NRL players and even NRL Media, his logic in this matter has serious flaws though - I don't buy that he needed to extricate hinself from the club overall to make this decision. It doesn't impact his market value, and gives him a security blanket to take his time. So either the Manly Club was pressuring him to make a decision, or he has used that as an excuse to justify bailing on being a 1-player club legend for reasons we don't fully undertand. (but Cooper Cronk might...)

(3) Media is trying to cash in

As this absolutely shi*ts on the normal 'coach under pressure after 3-rounds' crap they have to spin out of necessity due to lack of material.

Fox will milk this like the proverbial cow. Ryles/Payton/Woolfe must be thanking their lucky stars for DCE about now, deflecting heat on their winless starts to the season.

The headlines run by Newcorp should be treated as they deserve - utter contempt. The Manly Club substantially weakened their credibility by pitching a 2-yr offer on NRL-360 though. That was a bad move.

If Manly were - as they claim - on top of the negotiations with their captain then this shouldn't have been necessary. DCE himself claimed he had spoken to the club as far back as December and made up his mind on not being at Manly beyond 2025. The 2-yr offer - regardless of Mestrov's justification - looks desperate and impulsive. Burns the credibility that Manly are in control of this, and hands DCE to power to refuse - which he did - to a public forum. Whoever made that call at Manly Clubland? That was simply....Bad. It might actually be the most telling play in this saga actually.

The outcome is that either DCE was not clear in his intentions to the club - which reflects poorly on him - or that the club were not clear in their intentions to put down an offer of substance. This reflects poorly on DCE.

Neither party can come out of this clean. If DCE decides to renege on his position and re-sign with Manly now, after what he has said on Fox, he will look like an opportunist. If Manly offer him a contract value well in excess of the NRL evaluation of $400k, they will look captive and weak in negotiation. It hurts all involved.

The most logical explanation is that DCE has already signed with another club, but is not yet ready to reveal it. This undermines my view of DCE as an intellgient operator - he will be a club legend if he sticks it out at Manly until retirement. Chasing 1-2 more seasons at $750k-$1mil max may give him a decent sugar hit, but beyond that he has limited his legacy. Its a weird move - unless he has a succession plan already in place with another club - eg Cronk and Rooters.

It will not surprise me to find out DCE is going to play 1-2 seasons at the Rooters, replacing Townsend at the end of 2025, partnering and mentoring Walker, and giving the Rooters an artificial boost to their credentials during an acknowledged 'rebuilding' phase. And in return, Uncle Nick's brown paper bag has a nice retirement plan mapped out for him in a way that the Manly Club never defined.

If that ends up being the case, then that is on the Club, not DCE. Let's see what his next move is. And in the meantime, let’s hope it doesn't de-rail a promising season.
Insightful and impartial analysis @AlxFromNthNarra (and a good read)… pretty much agree with all your points…

Chez is playing dumb whilst the club is trying to play it smart - but the fox contract offer was a seriously dumb play by the club…

Cheers
 
It's a fair question for sure. It wouldn't surprise if the players support Daly's decision, as they all understand the cold reality of pro footy.
But from the club point of view it could be a bit embarrassing.
Win win win is the only obvious way out of it.
I think all players in the game most likely support it without knowing the details, everyone is happy for a player to make as most as he can whilst they can.

I personally have no problem if he has got a better deal that’s good luck to him, but he is not only a player, he is on the leadership team of the club and that’s a position where it’s a club first mentality and he showed zero respect for this, should have been done with a club press conference as a consolidated front.

I listened to Paul Kent’s podcast over lunch today and he is of the view he has signed at the Rorters.
 
but he is not only a player, he is on the leadership team of the club and that’s a position where it’s a club first mentality and he showed zero respect for this, should have been done with a club press conference as a consolidated front
Er, Yes, I'd have thought so.
Thank goodness young Beau didn't have to hear about all this on his deathbed, because it's a tad disconcerting for Manly fans, whichever way you look at it.
 
DCE should have been a Hollywood actor. His is so full of BS.
You can't begrudge a player prioritising their interests ahead of the club - especially when the club ham-fisted the offer like Manly did.

I don't necessarily like the impact this has on the club, but the Club does this with 30 front-line players each year, and a myriad of lower-grade players. They should be seasoned at it. It's like the 'you have 1 job' example.

I don't buy a Manly Club victim complex in any of this. Simply, the club should be well on top of retention strategies for each and every player we need to keep. DCE falls in that category - even if we have a succession plan with Walsh/Large. It should have been a ticker-tape parade style departure for DCE - hopefully cradling the trophy on GF day. That is now very unlikely.

I do not remember the top clubs ever struggling to retain the talent they have determined are the backbone of their squad. Even Penrith, who enjoy the spoils of the greatest nursery of talent in the league and have had to let top talent go each year, have been able to keep a team capable of going a 4-peat.

We should have found a less damaging way to deal with DCE's 'bull****' as you put it. That's on the club.
 

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