Gould just talking on the footy show about their juniors and their halfback academy. Seems the halfback products from our system (if there is one) end up at other clubs.
The Anthony Seibold Grievances MEGA THREAD
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LeonardCohen
Bencher
Personally, I see our middle forward rotation and years of playing a makeshift 9 as the reason for our ‘middle of the road’ performances in the last few seasons. Throw in the Pride jersey fiasco and injuries and it all speaks to a precarious set of circumstances. We just haven’t quite got it right with recruitment and backed players like Schu that didn’t work out.
I think Seibs can coach but we still have roster concerns in the middle. There’s just not enough leg speed and power to play the kind of up tempo football that can trouble the top sides consistently. We can get them when they’re off their game but that’s a lottery.
Until we improve our middles and Simpkin gets some reps, I see us sitting on the cusp of the 8, regardless of who owns our club or coaches it.
The perspective of the Seibold Thread ....
Negativity is Derived by Negative results
There is nothing positive about consistent loses that fail to reward you with 2 points and fail to propel you and secure you into the top 8 .
When teams win the Whinging stops and the Positive Praising starts
The moral of the story ...
WINNING IS THE MANLY WARRINGAH WAY
Negativity is Derived by Negative results
There is nothing positive about consistent loses that fail to reward you with 2 points and fail to propel you and secure you into the top 8 .
When teams win the Whinging stops and the Positive Praising starts
The moral of the story ...
WINNING IS THE MANLY WARRINGAH WAY
Ryan
Journey Man
agree 100%
At the end of the day we are all judged by our results
Given any circumstances we will either under achieve or over achieve
The moral of the story
It is not what we have but what we do with what we have that makes us either Magnificent or Mediocre
Gus for mine.
His 5 year plan at Penrith took a bit longer, but look at them now.
Then he goes to the Bulldogs and Laundie and says give me a stack of cash
and I’ll bring back the Dogs of the 80’s. How will you do that Gus they cried?
Easy, buy half the Panthers side because they can’t afford to keep them all.
Love him or hate him, he gets shiit done.
47MVEagle
Bencher
Not to mention the advantage of having Gould (ex Penrith football manager) poaching Kikau & Crichton.
Ralphie
Bencher
Yep, and we can't buy that sort of talent because of our overpaid and underperforming Turbos & DCE.
Can’t disagree there , they do take up the major part of our cap.
Ryan
Journey Man
They are both amazing players though.
DCE is never injured. He adds heaps of value and earns every dollar. Give him a week to week real life forward pack to play behind, lookout.
Tom is elite, but just can't stay in the park sadly.
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can i ask what leads you to that conclusion. Honestly would like to know.
He had 1 decent season coaching a side that Benny built stacked with stars in or just after their prime. A lot like Toovey IMHO. I loved Tooves as a player and a manly man but it goes pretty well unsaid that he wasn't much of a coach. He too had a stacked roster and a team of absolute champions that Des built.
Anyway i digress.
Seibold has done nothing of note. he had a decent Broncos and got rid of all the old guys. look how that ended up. We missed the 8 last year and are currently borderline this year. If we have an awesome end of year and he gets us deep into the finals then great. perhaps he can coach. BUT at this very moment there is not 1 ounce of credibility to the guys coaching ability.
Sure I was a des Guy as ive said so many times. But look at facts. in the 4 years we went deep into the finals 2 on of those runs. he too didnt have Turbo for extended periods but still took a rag tag bunch to the semis in 2019. look at these sides.
we have so much more talent at the moment. yet still no bacon.
Ryan
Journey Man
Who would you go for, mate ? Who do you think would turn things around for us ?
That 2019 team list where Des had Jetski and Waddell over Guaca was a disgrace after Guaca’s debut.
Seibold was the one coach last season who came up with the game plan on how to go about getting over the Panthers, tge execution wasn’t the best last season with the shifting of the ball however Seibold was the one coach to come up with the plan, the Donkeys almost got over the line in the Grand Final copying this tactic.
Ryan
Journey Man
I remember that mate. What an absolute abomination that call was after his debut hahahaha. In hindsight , it's actually pretty funny.
Yeh I think the majority of posters on here found that one hard to swallow, Jetski had been way below par and kept getting selected..
Ron E. Gibbs
First Grader
Two players on that list would completely transform the current team: AFB and Api. I understand why we let both of them go, and - at least with AFB - it was pretty much taken out of our hands. But I always thought we could build a premiership pack around AFB, and we've been without a proper hooker for years now. In an alternate universe, where those two were still at the club, we would be contenders.
LeonardCohen
Bencher
Based on the same information we are all privy to...the way we play each week and what gets filtered through the media.
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Nike
Reserve Grader
Nah I somewhat agree on most of what you said. I just don't think Crowe had much to do with Bennett arriving at Souths, no dispute on what he has historically helped achieve for South. I also think News Corp investment and subsequent divestment from Betr is dodgy.
Nothing personal I just talk **** on the internet lol, happy to leave it at that.
Seibold's first season as an NRL coach in 2018 was a fair coaching achievement. He took over Souths - who had finished 12th in both 2017 and 2016 - and had them running top 2 or 3 all year. Eventually lost a close Prelim final to the Chooks, who won the GF the next week. Probably comparable to what the Warriors guy did last year.
As for what happened at the Broncos, well documented he was white anted by people who thought a Bronco (Walters) should have got the job. Besides which, that Broncos side wasn't exactly "stacked with champions". It had a few ageing stars with a big bunch of promising but very inexperienced talent.
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