The Anthony Seibold Grievances MEGA THREAD

[Snoz1976]

Given injuries, while disappointed I am happy with the progress they are making. A few points out of the 8 and narrow losses to Souths when they were going well, Roosters on the back of 3 games in 11 days, Panthers when some things went against us (we did play some dumb footy but on the back of taking something different to the premiers), a draw with the knights, a 6 point loss to the sharks. With a fit turbo, lodge, paseka, Josh, and some other luck around injuries we could be in the 8.

 

[Ryan]

Given injuries, while disappointed I am happy with the progress they are making. A few points out of the 8 and narrow losses to Souths when they were going well, Roosters on the back of 3 games in 11 days, Panthers when some things went against us (we did play some dumb footy but on the back of taking something different to the premiers), a draw with the knights, a 6 point loss to the sharks. With a fit turbo, lodge, paseka, Josh, and some other luck around injuries we could be in the 8.

 

[Chunkytuna]

The only thing I’m slightly ‘happy’ about coming from this season is that our defence seems to have gotten a little better as the year went on - especially goal line defence. Defence wins premierships so if we can continue to get better there, then I guess there’s hope for a more positive season next year. Other than that, I’m struggling to find positives out of 2023.

 

[Ryan]

The only thing I’m slightly ‘happy’ about coming from this season is that our defence seems to have gotten a little better as the year went on - especially goal line defence. Defence wins premierships so if we can continue to get better there, then I guess there’s hope for a more positive season next year. Other than that, I’m struggling to find positives out of 2023.

At this time last season in defense, we were 12th out of 16
This season, at this time in defense, we are 11th out of 17 (so absolutely an improvement)

 

[BOZO]

Bottom 6 side with a bullet and Seibs is saying he is proud.
Being proud of mediocrity breeds worse.

Who else is proud of being a bottom 6 side? Not me.

Proud ?

What does Proud actually mean ?
feeling deep pleasure or satisfaction as a result of one's own high achievements
High Achievements are the results of meeting Benchmark expectations

What is the Benchmark of an achievement ?
A benchmark refers to high standard that has been achieved in the recent past , or what can be reasonably inferred to have been achieved in the circumstances.

The answer to your question feathered friend @XV-1
Should Manly People feel proud of lowering of Legendary clubs Bench mark Performance and not living up to it high premiership Winning Standards ?


To Anthony Seibold
You do not abuse and Undermine the word Proud at Manly by Under Achieving
Because
If we lower our legendary clubs Great Benchmark Winning standards we stand for Nothing Great

Manlys Premiership Winning Proud High Benchmark standards

 

[mickqld]

With the amount of resolve, determination, enthusiasm and commitment this team has shown this year I expect we'll capitulate in all 3 remaining games. How can someone who is supposedly an NRL coach be proud of the slop rubbish that's been dished up this year. The garbage home losses to Knights, Titans, Sharks, Souths and away to Roosters for a start were pathetic efforts. This guy is living in gaga land.

 

[Chunkytuna]

At this time last season in defense, we were 12th out of 16
This season, at this time in defense, we are 11th out of 17 (so absolutely an improvement)

🤣 well I was more thinking intra-year rather than comparing with last season. But maybe it’s just an impression I have rather than reality?

 

[BOZO]

How can someone who is supposedly an NRL coach be proud of the slop rubbish that's been dished up this year. The garbage home losses to Knights, Titans, Sharks, Souths and away to Roosters for a start were pathetic efforts. This guy is living in gaga land.

If he is proud of his teams performance position on the bottom of the ladder

You have to ask.
What are Seibold Standards and what does he stand for ?

Because the Quality of Leadership
are reflected in the standards they set for them selves

Anthony Siebold
Leaving his mark and Setting the new Manly standards

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

The title of this thread is inaccurate.

'We are a bottom six side - Seibs is proud.'

Seibold said that he was proud of the team in particular games, even when Manly lost.

Nowhere has he been quoted as saying that he is proud that we are currently in the bottom six.

I know that on Silvertails we shouldn't let facts get in the way of some juicy and made-up innuendo, and I - like others - are not in complete agreement with how our season has gone and why, but to suggest that our coach wants Manly - the team he is coach of - to be in the bottom 35% of the ladder is ...............................lacking in judgement.

I would suggest that the vast majority of the problem for this year comes down to the 17 individuals who have worn (or not worn) the MWDRLC jersey, and their inability to execute the game plan consistently on a weekly basis.

Much like every other club that has lost a game this year.

​

I think the title is accurate whilst your points are technically correct I have not heard Seibs acknowledge the reality of our situation ( currently a bottom 6 team) but rather embellish isolated achievements at times.

 

[BOZO]

A head coach words are like seeds that are planted and grow in a team culture
Pride in losing Breeds comfort zones . It does not Breed Accountability

Because Accountability is truly the way that ties commitment to results

 

[BOZO]

The title of this thread is inaccurate.

I would suggest that the vast majority of the problem for this year comes down to the 17 individuals who have worn (or not worn) the MWDRLC jersey, and their inability to execute the game plan consistently on a weekly basis.

​

The Title of this thread is based on Seibolds proud pressers in proudly praising his losing teams performances

To suggest that the head coach is not accountable for his teams performance is Gullible
and Defending the Defeated and Undefendable

 

[Thewestisbest]

Excuses….excuses….

You must have misinterpreted my post.

There is no excuse for our pathetic season this year if there is no excuse for 2022.

 

[ManEagle]

And if not for the Dolphins as the extra team, we would be bottom 5

 

[Brookie Bob]

The Title of this thread is based on Seibolds proud pressers in proudly praising his losing teams performances

To suggest that the head coach is not accountable for his teams performance is Gullible
and Defending the Defeated and Undefendable

Get your facts right, @BOZO.

As I said, nowhere has he - Seibold - been quoted as saying that he is "proud that we are currently in the bottom six."

That's what the headline of this thread says.

Who is suggesting that the head coach is not accountable for his team's performance?????

I wasn't saying that our coach has NO accountability, but I did say that the majority of the accountability rests with the players.

For example -
Tom - no-where near his best this year, in the games that he did play. Big factor.
Reuben - has tried hard, flashes of good, nothing in the elite class.
Koula - lots of defensive misses to go go with the odd break.
Scorpio - looks even slower this year, probably playing injured.
Saab - rocks and diamonds this year.
Tuipolotu - mistakes when in possession, slow playing the ball
Schuster - often flustered, picking wrong options, not playing 'tough' often enough. Seems to run out of puff.
DCE - often carrying the show on his own these days
Paseka - can be damaging - need more output
Croaker - needs to be quicker out of dummy half
Aloiai - looks like he is playing injured every week, lacks impact
Keppie - lacks lateral movement and needs to think about his game more
Sipley - lacks the 'motor' of an elite prop
Bullemor - seems to get fatigued after too many minutes in the middle
Woods - way, way, way too slow hitting the line
Jake - has broken maybe one tackle in 3 years
Hamole - run into spaces if you can, mate, not at 3 players all the time
Tuilagi - get more involved and uptempo in your game
Burbo - work on your speed from a standing start, too slow to hit top gear
Lawton - injured...........again
Matterson - seems useful, too early to call
Lodge - good, hard carries - slow to turn around and get back in the defensive line
Weekes - showed a lot of early promise, lost confidence, drifted out of the team


I am neither gullible nor a defender of the indefensible!!

This year the club has a new centre of excellence for training, and a smorgasboard of coaches for every conceivable thing - attack defense, etc. Seibold, Flannagan, Dymock, Hales, etc have all been around a while and all offer different things. Let alone all the others who offer their two cents worth on a regular basis - Brett Stewart and Mark Carroll amongst them.

I'm sure many of us have seen varying Manly players looking 'gassed' by the 60 minute mark, causing holes to open up in the defense around the ruck and out wide. If the players concerned don't have the insight to work on their individual fitness - to not only compete in first grade but to dominate - then we will get a bottom 6 team.

While the coaching staff have a responsibility to be the best they can be, so do the players - the whole @#$%^&* squad of 30 players.

 

[jbb/james]

Get your facts right, @BOZO.

As I said, nowhere has he - Seibold - been quoted as saying that he is "proud that we are currently in the bottom six."

That's what the headline of this thread says.

Who is suggesting that the head coach is not accountable for his team's performance?????

I wasn't saying that our coach has NO accountability, but I did say that the majority of the accountability rests with the players.

For example -
Tom - no-where near his best this year, in the games that he did play. Big factor.
Reuben - has tried hard, flashes of good, nothing in the elite class.
Koula - lots of defensive misses to go go with the odd break.
Scorpio - looks even slower this year, probably playing injured.
Saab - rocks and diamonds this year.
Tuipolotu - mistakes when in possession, slow playing the ball
Schuster - often flustered, picking wrong options, not playing 'tough' often enough. Seems to run out of puff.
DCE - often carrying the show on his own these days
Paseka - can be damaging - need more output
Croaker - needs to be quicker out of dummy half
Aloiai - looks like he is playing injured every week, lacks impact
Keppie - lacks lateral movement and needs to think about his game more
Sipley - lacks the 'motor' of an elite prop
Bullemor - seems to get fatigued after too many minutes in the middle
Woods - way, way, way too slow hitting the line
Jake - has broken maybe one tackle in 3 years
Hamole - run into spaces if you can, mate, not at 3 players all the time
Tuilagi - get more involved and uptempo in your game
Burbo - work on your speed from a standing start, too slow to hit top gear
Lawton - injured...........again
Matterson - seems useful, too early to call
Lodge - good, hard carries - slow to turn around and get back in the defensive line
Weekes - showed a lot of early promise, lost confidence, drifted out of the team


I am neither gullible nor a defender of the indefensible!!

This year the club has a new centre of excellence for training, and a smorgasboard of coaches for every conceivable thing - attack defense, etc. Seibold, Flannagan, Dymock, Hales, etc have all been around a while and all offer different things. Let alone all the others who offer their two cents worth on a regular basis - Brett Stewart and Mark Carroll amongst them.

I'm sure many of us have seen varying Manly players looking 'gassed' by the 60 minute mark, causing holes to open up in the defense around the ruck and out wide. If the players concerned don't have the insight to work on their individual fitness - to not only compete in first grade but to dominate - then we will get a bottom 6 team.

While the coaching staff have a responsibility to be the best they can be, so do the players - the whole @#$%^&* squad of 30 players.

good post

 

[Eagle 1]

Good point Tragic. Revealing that this is a bottom 6 roster.

I just don’t think the team is very good. Even our “best” players - let’s go through them.

Garrick - good but nothing soecail

Koula - a faster version of Brian Kelly - total lightweight in effort and impact on the line.

DCE - proven star but he Is one player

Jake - good but he is Josh Jackson in disguise

Ola - good but he breaks the line in junk time or against weaker teams. Unproven against the top clubs to create anything, particularly over the last two years.

Ummm -I’m at the end of the list. The rest are Blacktown players or have I forgotten someone?.

NYEagle

What about the rest of the other player assessments, surely they can't be all bad..lol.

 

[WiseyEagle]

God he's a tosser!

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Our benchmark will fall to the point where the fans / coach / players will say at least we didn't get relegated as a means of getting used to the spoon.

 

[XV-1]

Weren't we a bottom 6 side last year... With a different coach?

Just sayin’

Dessie certainly wasn't proud of it thou.

 

[ManEagle]

God he's a tosser!

?
God ?

Long day sorry I get it now 🤦‍♂️