That's entertainment Folks!

[Mark from Brisbane]

Getting rid of the 6 agains will bring all fans closer to a favourable opinion.

Yes , that’s where the “ magic happens “, zero accountability, maximum manipulation.

 

[The Who]

Yeah you're technically right however, go watch a game from the 80's then a game from this weekend.

Two completely different 'products' so you're on the money but the game they played back then is unwatchable now tbh.

Funny you say that. I just watched You Tube clips of the first 15 minutes of selected matches in the early 80s, Manly V Wests, Canterbury V Easts with Rex Mossop commentating. They were brutal but spine tingling, with low covering tackles applauded. And contrary to what you are saying there was still plenty of ball movement. It made today's version resemble tip football.

 

[Ned]

It probably comes down to the age you are.

If you’re in your teens all you’ve ever known is this brand of footy.

In your 20’s , almost the same

In your 30’s you’ll possibly have memories of the golden era (2006-2013) but not much further back.

In your 40’s & 50’s you’ll go back to that incredible period in the 90’s.

In your 60’s you’ll remember those dark years of the Eels wins, and our solitary 1987 GF victory.

In your 70’s you’ll go back to our first Grand Final victory and the incredible era of Bob Fulton , Terry Randall , MAL Reilly etc.

It’s hard to compare as all the eras are different.

There’s lots I love in the modern era , the athletic nature of the wingers , the speed , the precision kicking , I agree it’s pretty to watch.

But there’s lots I hate with the modern era , the manipulation of games to get close scores , the inconsistency of the refereeing, for most the complete lack of loyalty.

I’m outwardly not a fan of VLandy’s Ball , but I acknowledge lots are.

ok boomer lol

 

[globaleagle]

So time wasting at 60 minutes is fine, at 75 minutes is not.

I'm gonna add this one to my "consistency is overrated " basket.

the wheel is correct.

It was a rule brought in a few years ago now, as the leading team was just being ridiculous in taking 2 mins to get take drop out, or 3 mins in walking back to the halfway line to re-start if a try was scored against them.

Whilst there are scrum clocks and drop out clocks for other such instances throughout the game, I have no idea why they didn't make the rule 'time off' for all instances the ball is out of play.

Maybe they thought it was 'too much' for a ref to keep track of. It is hard enough for them to remember how many '6 agains' they are throwing out these days. Poor things.

 

[globaleagle]

Getting rid of the 6 agains will bring all fans closer to a favourable opinion.

Trouble is, that just encourages the refs to blow penalties 40 times a game (again).

Then with the balls these day...it's a 30metre kick up field and even if it's 5 tackles at 5 mtres...it's too much of an advantage (which was the problem the nrl was faced with pre 6 agains).

But the trouble is the refs are whistle happy. Well...that and cheats.

 

[globaleagle]

110% agree

And you are dead right , they looked at T20 and thought “ how can we create that in RL”.

They took on everything from T20 except the part where the players in T20 determine the outcome

 

[sheridanstand78]

The game is now a watered down, you score, I score experience. The example was the Whingers v Dragqueens game, terrible game to see no interest in defending. The contrast to the Chooks v Raiders game was massive in that the bravery of Canberra to win against significant odds and only a 14-12 score line.

The game is now over officiated with referees creating as many tries as the players do with this 6 again rubbish and the mistakes continue from the bunker in relation to high tackles and obstructions. I live for the day when referees are allowed to do their job!

 

[BOZO]

What ever rule changes we will never please every one
Nothing pleases every one

The NRL rating and attendances are as high as they have ever been
So we are pleasing most people

The Athletes are fitter the game is faster and the product is fantastic as far as I am concerned

 

[frank stokes]

NRL has gone the way of T-20, the bastardised version of a sport which was once called cricket.
Mistakenly thinking that all spectators wanted was sixers being hit, 'cricket' has become Super Hit, or **** for short. It has lost all the nuances of a fair contest between bat and ball.
Sadly, we've seen that happen to the NRL where rule makers have prioritised tries over other attributes, such as grit, toughness, low tackling, defence and courage. This current round has seen ridiculous score lines, referee-engineered comebacks, record numbers of players put on report for "high tackles", and indefensible decisions from The Clunker.
Almost everyone agrees that the best match this year was the third SOO which had everything 'old school' about the sport and didn't rely on tries to captivate its audience.
How I long for the days of a low tackle, a low penalty count, a concise rule book and low involvement from off-field officialdom. A low scoring match can be as entertaining as any; certainly more so than that embarrassing 44-40 Eels gigglefest. That wasn't rugby league, it was basketball without the basket.
An NRL match is now a one-trick pony. Watching tries is great, but not when there are 15 in a match. It's the same as hitting a six in cricket; it used to be a highlight, now it is commonplace and predictable.

Could not agree more... I have wondered for some time whether the NRL is creating a void which a rival rugby league competition could take advantage of by getting participants to sign waivers and compete in a heavy contact, reduced regulation version that hardks back to the games roots... think LIV / MMA / NHA....

I dont see why it could not happen when a sport like MMA is flourishing and I know that many would flock to a game of league that removed penalties for blokes falling face forward into shins and 10min binnings (that wreck good contests) for shoulder on shoulder contact that creates a bit of whiplash...

Maybe I am dreaming but I am convinced there is a market for a more brutal and less namby-pamby version of the game that does not have rule changes implemented season-to-season and often week-to-week...

 

[frank stokes]

What ever rule changes we will never please every one
Nothing pleases every one

THAT is the problem in a nutshell @BOZO

The game has speant too long trying to please people that will never play the game or even watch the game in the name of making it a "family friendly" sport...

Pretty sure families used to go Winfield Cup games and the game has been decimated by trying to pander to bleeding hearts and fear mongers... it is supposed to be a heavy contact sport so injuries WILL happen and penalising players/teams for human error has destroyed the actual nature of the game...

nobody is saying direct elbows to the chin or malicious play should be ignored but the cat was belled when the shoulder charge was outlawed yet past instances continued to be a central point of the games advertising for years to come (and still is for SOO)... the game has cannabalised itself, and for what? Is participation higher? Are criwds bigger?

 

[The Who]

the wheel is correct.

It was a rule brought in a few years ago now, as the leading team was just being ridiculous in taking 2 mins to get take drop out, or 3 mins in walking back to the halfway line to re-start if a try was scored against them.

Whilst there are scrum clocks and drop out clocks for other such instances throughout the game, I have no idea why they didn't make the rule 'time off' for all instances the ball is out of play.

Maybe they thought it was 'too much' for a ref to keep track of. It is hard enough for them to remember how many '6 agains' they are throwing out these days. Poor things.

The NRL borrowed the idea from basketball where the final minute lasts 15 minutes.
The NRL also borrowed from basketball the idea that the more basket/tries scored the better the product. Thus, whenever a team holds on to the ball near an opponent's basket/try line the ref gives them multiple opportunities to score, via six-agains, penalties, phantom rulings, disregarding forward passes...
The ref stage-managed the Easts V Canberra match perfectly, keeping the punters transfixed to the final whistle. I hope he spends his bonus money for such an achievement wisely.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

The NRL borrowed the idea from basketball where the final minute lasts 15 minutes.
The NRL also borrowed from basketball the idea that the more basket/tries scored the better the product. Thus, whenever a team holds on to the ball near an opponent's basket/try line the ref gives them multiple opportunities to score, via six-agains, penalties, phantom rulings, disregarding forward passes...
The ref stage-managed the Easts V Canberra match perfectly, keeping the punters transfixed to the final whistle. I hope he spends his bonus money for such an achievement wisely.

Loads of “ stage management “ these days , and apparently Gen X , Y & Millennials love it 🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

 

[globaleagle]

Loads of “ stage management “ these days , and apparently Gen X , Y & Millennials love it 🤷🤷🤷🤷🤷

Well, I guess it gives us something to do besides listening to boomers complain about everything, only to pause to regale us with how 'no one gave them a hand' as they demand a higher pension.

 

[The Who]

Well, I guess it gives us something to do besides listening to boomers complain about everything, only to pause to regale us with how 'no one gave them a hand' as they demand a higher pension.

Have we told you about the period in which we were paying up to 18% interest rate on our mortgage? Or when Wagon Wheels were a decent size, or . . .

 

[globaleagle]

Have we told you about the period in which we were paying up to 18% interest rate on our mortgage? Or when Wagon Wheels were a decent size, or . . .

I know! I can't believe how small wagon wheels are now!

wait.... dammit, you got me. lol

 

[Phobia]

Null tackles or 2/3 agains should replace 6 agains. I've always thought an entire set is a ridiculous punishment for sometimes just tapping someone on the head. If someone lies down in the ruck for 10 seconds, the six again should be maintained, but for minor infringements there has to be something else.

The other benefit here is that refs are able to blow more "null tackles" due to the low impact it has, so aren't as scared to call one against the home side. Should produce better accountability.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Well, I guess it gives us something to do besides listening to boomers complain about everything, only to pause to regale us with how 'no one gave them a hand' as they demand a higher pension.

Yes MORE money back after 45 years of taxes sounds great to me !!

At least I’ve actually paid taxes unlike all those dole bludgers today who just sit back and suck on the government teat.

😂😂😂😂

 

[The Who]

Yes MORE money back after 45 years of taxes sounds great to me !!

At least I’ve actually paid taxes unlike all those dole bludgers today who just sit back and suck on the government teat.

😂😂😂😂

Mark. We have a vacancy in the Northern Beaches Council due to ineptitude (I blame The Bunker), plus a need for a new MP to represent Pittwater.
You would get my vote.
God's Country needs a man with your strong opinions.

 

[Nike]

Yes MORE money back after 45 years of taxes sounds great to me !!

At least I’ve actually paid taxes unlike all those dole bludgers today who just sit back and suck on the government teat.

😂😂😂😂

Mate I know this whole thread is tongue in cheek but Jobseeker is below the poverty line ($762.70 per fortnight). I see an awful lot of older people through my work who can't get a job because they're "too old" for any roles and too young for a pension. Subsequently these people are stuck in horrible situations that make them vulnerable as a result, my point is I seriously doubt anyone is living the high life on Jobseeker.

I'm more concerned about the rent seekers who get their welfare via the ATO at the expense of a well funded public service. It's not generational warfare, it's class warfare. Always has been, always will be.

On topic though for what it's worth I'll probably be posting on whatever the brainrot medium of the day is in 20 years about how the games gone soft. I think you summed it up best from an age point of view, I don't envision how I'd be immune to that as (if) I age to see it too.

 

[BOZO]

THAT is the problem in a nutshell @BOZO

The game has speant too long trying to please people that will never play the game or even watch the game in the name of making it a "family friendly" sport...

Thank you for your perspective reply my feathered friend
My perspective reply to you In a nutshell is One mans Problem is another mans Pleasure
We will happily agree to disagree and keep loving our Manly
It is always a pleasure to be in this forum and exchange perspectives with all my Silvertails feathered friends
Keep positive , Healthy ,Happy and have a Magnificent Manly day
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