"I come back to you now at the turn of the tide"
@AlxFromNthNarra name-checked the Penns on the Manly side and V'Landys from the NRL side as being integral to our Winter of Discontent, but you've made it all about Mestrov and Seibold.Take Underachievers and your club will decline Perspective ...
The Biggest Reason for the Biggest Decline of Great clubs in the Modern Era
Is Investing in Underachievers as Underachievers fail to Deliver !
Here are the facts and everything else is a fiction of underachieving excuses .
The Bottom of the 8 Underachieving Clubs
The Pascoes at the Tigers ,
The Doust at the Dragons
and Mestrov and Seibold at Manly
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We're all entitled to an opinion, and for reasons best known to yourself, you usually pick Seibold and Mestrov. If you have inside information on why specifically, please share - without being libelous.
An alternate hypothesis - everything starts at the (very) top, and is multiplied over time.
Pascoe has been at the Tigers since 2017, and Doust was at the Dragons for 18 years, finishing in 2018. I agree - both sub-par chief officials.
However, the Penns own our club, the Sea Eagles. Both Seibold and Mestrov are relatively recent arrivals, and both these guys must surely say on a daily basis 'how high?' when the Penns say 'jump'.
If you're looking at a longer, sustained, far greater influence on where Manly are at, then look at the Penns - as stated by @AlxFromNthNarra in his original post.