Suli off to Illawarra

[Shoe1]

That first try isn’t him at all, he had his man covered easily and Funa left his winger to come in unnecessarily

Fair enough

 

[SeaEagle21]

Have been wanting to see 80mins of Suli for a long time and wasn’t disappointed. He must play again next week

Parker is solid, but his D has fallen away a touch lately. Suli is full of natural ability and his D isn’t as bad as made out to be

Really want to see him outside Tom too, think how much open space Parker has seen this year, and imagine what Suli could do with it

I'd be giving Parker another week off given his head knock history. Then again who knows Tom might not be right either so might not get to see them link up

 

[AlxFromNthNarra]

Have been wanting to see 80mins of Suli for a long time and wasn’t disappointed. He must play again next week

Parker is solid, but his D has fallen away a touch lately. Suli is full of natural ability and his D isn’t as bad as made out to be

Really want to see him outside Tom too, think how much open space Parker has seen this year, and imagine what Suli could do with it

Suli is not a poor defender. He has been poor at reading the play.

Suli's tackle effectiveness is actually very good. He doesn't miss tackles.

He misreads plays to the point that he doesn't even lay a hand on the ball player. You don't need to miss a tackle to open up the line like a bag of salt'n'vinegar crisps (the best flavour..)

"Poor Reads" are not a documented stat, but they are just as damaging as missed tackles.

Having said that, I have no idea if that happened tonight or not as I just listened to the call, didn't watch any of it 🙂

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Suli is not a poor defender. He has been poor at reading the play.

Suli's tackle effectiveness is actually very good. He doesn't miss tackles.

He misreads plays to the point that he doesn't even lay a hand on the ball player. You don't need to miss a tackle to open up the line like a bag of salt'n'vinegar crisps (the best flavour..)

"Poor Reads" are not a documented stat, but they are just as damaging as missed tackles.

Having said that, I have no idea if that happened tonight or not as I just listened to the call, didn't watch any of it 🙂

It all reminds me of the first few years of Matai, he was flogged on here for being a **** defender but he got there

I’ll back Des to coach the D into him, the attack he has you can’t coach into people. Needs an injury free run, he looked like he could be anything when he toweled up Gagai in that finals game but hasn’t had much of an extended run since

 

[Brisbane Tragic]

Well - I have had questions on Suli but he was fabulous tonight. And yes Funa was all at fault in that first try. Not sure what Funa was doing in that first half - defensive errors, got rag dolled on every carry - looked like he might lose every pill. Heart in the mouth. But Suli was a gun... humble pie here. Hopefully he backs it up again next week if he plays.

 

[manlyfan76]

I'll be surprised if MS is here next year.

 

[cc eagle]

I'll be surprised if MS is here next year.

Des confirmed in the presser he's contracted for next year, take out of that what you want.

 

[AlxFromNthNarra]

Des confirmed in the presser he's contracted for next year, take out of that what you want.

NRL contracts in general are binding and honoured agreements, based on precedent......?

That is what I take out of that.

 

[Snake]

Foran really helped Suli tonight and showed his class by giving him the ball in quality positions, rather than just throwing and hoping. Foran was brilliant tonight.

 

[Kalvin]

It's a difficult conundrum suli vs Parker. Yes suli is an attacking weapon whereas Parker is a defensive rock.
Will suli be able to boss the game like he did tonight vs the likes of Penrith or storm? I have Parker slightly ahead due to his current combination with Garrick...

 

[manlyfan76]

Des confirmed in the presser he's contracted for next year, take out of that what you want.

I watched it. Less convinced he will be here after watching it

 

[Spartan Eagle]

Suli over Parker for me after tonight's perfomance. He was a game changer. He was the only player that made inroads against solid raiders defence. Combination with Foran was lethal.

 

[winnyason]

Still defensively poor imo. From all reports he gone for next season.

 

[Rafferty]

Des confirmed in the presser he's contracted for next year, take out of that what you want.

I‘m pretty sure Des has always had some sort of opinion of him and you’d have to think he will be given another run on the back of tonight’s game and I hope he goes on with it and grabs his chance to keep his spot in the 17 for the rest of the year.

 

[The Who]

If nothing else he'll win ' Covid hairstyle of the year' from a list of serious contenders.

 

[40 years an eagle]

He could be a very damaging FG centre if he was consistent and has a good minder in defence. He ran well tonight but I made the call a few days ago that he would score 1 try, concede 2 and make 2 errors. I was close. 0 tries, conceded 1 and 1 error.
I wish he had turned out to be more like his promise but I doubt he ever will, so he's still a sell for me.

 

[Remy]

Man he had such a good performance tonight. I called it that he will, but he is just so destructive and such a strike weapon. He hasn't even played a single full game with Tommy yet. We all know how Tommy makes players look, imagine what he'd made Suli look like. Mark my words, Suli would win centre of the year playing alongside Tommy. Really sad that it looks like that ship has sailed now, the way Des was talking about him at the presser seems like there's some tension and drama around his whole playing time/contract issue.

 

[Mataiforever]

Suli is not a poor defender. He has been poor at reading the play.

Suli's tackle effectiveness is actually very good. He doesn't miss tackles.

He misreads plays to the point that he doesn't even lay a hand on the ball player. You don't need to miss a tackle to open up the line like a bag of salt'n'vinegar crisps (the best flavour..)

"Poor Reads" are not a documented stat, but they are just as damaging as missed tackles.

Having said that, I have no idea if that happened tonight or not as I just listened to the call, didn't watch any of it 🙂

Poor reads = poor defending

Question is - he seems to play this well when he has a contract on the line... i.e 2019... hasn’t played this good since then

Imagine if this was a mad scientist Des tactic to get him going??

In all seriousness I would just make him convert to being a second rower. Even for a 2row his running game would be up there with most damaging in comp.

11 Olakau’atu
12 Schuster

17 Suli
Bullemor if he joins next year competes with Suli / Lawton for backrow spots.

 

[Mataiforever]

Suli over Parker for me after tonight's perfomance. He was a game changer. He was the only player that made inroads against solid raiders defence. Combination with Foran was lethal.

Its tough. Parker is miles better at reading the defence.. Suli has proven to be a defensive liability for the past two years... a few good attacking games doesn’t change that

as i said above he should become a backrower, where you are less isolated and not the key man in D like at centre.

 

[Spartan Eagle]

Its tough. Parker is miles better at reading the defence.. Suli has proven to be a defensive liability for the past two years... a few good attacking games doesn’t change that

as i said above he should become a backrower, where you are less isolated and not the key man in D like at centre.

Look. I think he will can only get better in defence. Last night's game didn't show too many leaks. First try was Funa coming in when he didn't have to. Overall though he can be much more destructive bringing the ball back from our line and has good footwork.
I love Parker. He is a hard worker. Runs good lines. But a lot of the times the ball dies with him in attack. He is too slow to take advantage of the speed beside him in Garrett. Suli would probably be better in 2nd row but we have shoe and guac so no way there. Tough one...but if he shows same form it would be hard for Parker to come back into the side imo.