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Stripping rule

40 years an eagle

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All this 3 man tackle, then 2 drop off choreography with stripping intention has to stop. It is a big part of the wrestle slowing down the ruck that needs to be gone.

One on one strip allowed IF there was only ever one in the tackle.
 

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Agree, guess they could change the rule as if one in the tackle a strip is allowed but if at anytime two or more are involved in a tackle then no strip allowed even if there extras drop off.
 

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It's a Catch 22, take away the opportunity to strip the ball and ball security by the attacker goes out the window, you then have all these subjective stripping calls that are equally frustrating because the attacker loose carries into a gang tackle
 

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My understanding was that this rule was suggested to greenturd in a mtg with the fab 3 from the storm wrestle mania team - explains it all really
 

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It's a Catch 22, take away the opportunity to strip the ball and ball security by the attacker goes out the window, you then have all these subjective stripping calls that are equally frustrating because the attacker loose carries into a gang tackle
Cant remember a "ball security" or "loose carry problem in the past.

Keep your hands off the ball in a more than 1 man tackle or risk being penalised for stripping.

One on one battles for the ball are ok but 2 or more tacklers ...keep your hands off the ball.

Pretty simple and easy to officiate... and without the multitude of "interpretive" or just plain unsighted calls we have now.
 

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One of the key directives of a defender is to tie up the ball and prevent the offload. If you are going to penalise defenders who touch the ball in a tackle then you are going to need a couple of spare whistles, because the first one will be worn out after 20 minutes.
 

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One of the key directives of a defender is to tie up the ball and prevent the offload.
Correct.
Back when the game was a far tougher and greater spectacle that was done by putting the ball-carrier on the ground.

Now it is about keeping the ball-carrier on their feet with the objective being sucking up time for your defensive line to reset and to try and magically dislodge the ball without trying to.

Which game is better, then or now?

The game needs to go partly backwards to bring it forward.
 

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Yep

As soon as we started to see some teams (canberra) doing the pre-set call for two to drop off so the tug of war could begin...the nrl should have said that once again teams have worked out yet another pathetic, spectacle destroying loophole, changing the spirit of why the rule was brought in in the first place and.......

done something about it.

Also.. mmmmm, spag bol!
 

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One of the key directives of a defender is to tie up the ball and prevent the offload. If you are going to penalise defenders who touch the ball in a tackle then you are going to need a couple of spare whistles, because the first one will be worn out after 20 minutes.
This is 100% correct.
At EVERY junior rep camp the FIRST contact is containing the ball.
There is then a 2nd man in and a 3rd - chopper (legs)
Personally love the first contact midriff that can dislodge the ball on impact ala Jake Trjobovic, but with today's game so structured, the main element is slowing the play ball and reducing offloads is your best way to do this, along with extra flopper's to lay on or turtle the attacker.
If you watch the change from the 80's - 90's to 2020 and see early games, the contacts are far harder in the mid section or around the legs, which created far better tackles and often dropped ball, but on the flip side there were many offloads with players supporting the ball also....with the game about percentages, the ball is the magnet more so than the player, which will always make the strip rule controversial, as it's also a great excuse for poor ball security or players who accidentally on purpose - losing possession to gain a penalty.
 

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... and while I am in a salty mood ... do we seriously want to see gifted footballers like cliffy clamping the ball to his chest whenever an opposing player comes near ... rather than running with the ball held out looking for an opportunity to off-load ...

The stripping rule ... another dagger to the chest of attacking football ... may as well bring back re-packing the contested scrum 5 times only to eventually award a dodgy penalty ....

Thanks @40 years an eagle for bringing up stripping ... now I am pissed off for the whole day ...
 

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Hard to get the balance right but think that the ball carrier does need a little bit leeway when gang or group tackles are involved and the opportunity or intent to just try to dislodge the footy is the main priority .. Used to play in the era where one on one tackles or ball and all tackles was the norm so have a general dislike of any type of ball stripping tactics but times and tactics change , not always for the better however ..
 

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Ok now we are talking debatable footy issues, I have an absolute pet hate....
Every time a ball is dropped in the modern game, there is no such thing as a knock back....its like touch footy where a dropped ball is an automatic knock on...even if lost back 3 metres - Knock on ???
 

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Ok now we are talking debatable footy issues, I have an absolute pet hate....
Every time a ball is dropped in the modern game, there is no such thing as a knock back....its like touch footy where a dropped ball is an automatic knock on...even if lost back 3 metres - Knock on ???
Probably does need a little bit more attention in that area , especially when there is a lot of forward motion with the ball carrier . Know that it can be a bit deceptive for on ground officials at times but recall a play with Jamie Lyon in full flight trying to give an off load to his winger[ Oldfield some seasons ago ] coming infield . Ruled a knock on but the ball was found to have still gone back and denied a crucial try . Plenty of other examples of course but just because a ball is dislodged or a pass slightly astray , certainly should not have an initial inclination to primarily rule a knock on .
 

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