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Snake's "no try" v Sharks. Any feedback from NRL?

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Brissie Kid, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. Brissie Kid

    Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

    +1,176 /19
    3:19pm: 54 min: Brett Stewart looked to be on his way to the line for Manly but it's been called back by referee Maxwell for a forward pass.

    Anyone hear if NRL referees boss confirmed this was or was not a try?
  2. StuBoot

    StuBoot Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,065 /9
    I think by no comment he's confirmed it was a no try.
    The ref made the call on the run, I'm happy with that.
    It didn't make a difference to the result. Move on.

    There'll be plenty of those during the season, you win some, you lose some. If he calls play on, there'll be plenty to say it went forward and vice versa.
  3. Brissie Kid

    Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

    +1,176 /19
    You're more forgiving than me.
  4. StuBoot

    StuBoot Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

    +1,065 /9
    Yeah, I heard the outcry about the no try before I watched it and kind of expected it to be an obviously poor call, but having watched it a few times I'll live with it.

    If it was against us and given the all clear, I wouldn't be too happy.
  5. Rex

    Rex Well-Known Member

    +2,376 /60
    Pure optical illusion:
    1. It was a long pass at pace and drifted forward. Irrelevant.

    Look again at the key evidence:
    1. In the instant out of the hands, the ball was definitely going backwards. It only starts drifting forward afterwards. Proof.
    2. Hiku slowed after passing yet when the ball was caught he was still in front of it. Proof.
    3. Stewart was well behind Hiku, travelling at the same pace when it was passed and didn't need to increase pace or reach to take it comfortably. Proof.
  6. Ian Martin tragic

    Ian Martin tragic Well-Known Member

    +186 /0
    The pass was ok, but we got a fair few 50/50 calls on the day.
  7. Mark from Brisbane

    Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

    +19,665 /383
    Swings and roundabouts really
  8. Brissie Kid

    Brissie Kid Well-Known Member

    +1,176 /19
    The problem was the referee was able to stand still and look across. If he had been running alongside the players would have been different I reckon.
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    • manlyfan76

      manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +8,056 /174
      It did drift forward a LONG way. I can live with it because we won.
    • Bradza

      Bradza Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +790 /9
      On the mark Rex. That was a classic example of a ball thrown backwards but floats forward with the force of the momentum of the person throwing it. Number 2 above is the best proof of it. Hiku, the ball and Snake are in very similar position relative to each other both before and after the pass is thrown and caught.

      The physics were beyond Horsehead even after all his years as a ref.
    • The Indian

      The Indian Well-Known Member

      +446 /14
      Yes this is the classic "drifter" pass - definitely back out of the hands BUT That said, it floated SO far forward its no great surprise the ref ruled the way he did given a split second to weigh it all up.

      Such is life.
    • Frank

      Frank Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

      +1,453 /27
      I only watched the replay at the time and it didn't appear to be thrown backwards. At best I thought it was flat - maybe a little forward.

      As soon as the ball was thrown I thought it would get called back. I thought it was a forward pass. If any other team did that to us I would expect the same result.
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      • Chip and Chase

        Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

        +8,600 /80
        The referees have bigger issues than the occassional mis-interpreted forward pass to worry about.
      • Stevo

        Stevo Well-Known Member

        +1,401 /56
        I'm happy with the call. If Hiku Had have passed it back in field instead of flinging it 1 handed it would have looked a whole lot better. You live and learn.
      • MadMarcus

        MadMarcus Local Lunatic 2017 Tipping Competitor

        +8,380 /74
        50/50 I thought. I would have been dirty if the other side scored off a pass like that, so I can live with it.
      • Fluffy

        Fluffy Well-Known Member

        +5,625 /204
        given the forward passes they do miss this was a shocker of a call.

        Again its the lack of consistency that gives you the poopies
      • Bad Boy Bubba

        Bad Boy Bubba New Member

        +1 /0
        Idiot ref makes an idiot call , what else can you expect.
      • southsideeagle

        southsideeagle Well-Known Member Premium Member

        +523 /13
        I think it was a lower % play by Hiku. He could have gone to Killer beside him then on to Snake.
        I have always wondered how much "drift" can be achieved.

        U will gather from the end of this I do not know but here goes.

        If the ball carrier is running at a 12 second / 100 m pace then obviously the ball is doing same. If he passes it at the same pace (how fast is a ball passed???) and it is passed 10 metres, the pass takes 1.2 seconds and travels 1.2 metres forward.
      • globaleagle

        globaleagle Je saisis mon chapeau. Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

        +13,347 /117
        Thrown at least 35 meters forward without exaggeration.
      • bob dylan

        bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

        +6,440 /192

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