Sirengate....

The sweetest revenge was wiping our a*se with their sh**ty jumpers by flogging that scum on their putrid wankfest ground. I refuse to use the word stadium as that would imply some sophisticated place of great sporting events rather than the feral cesspool of sh*t it becomes at any scum home game.
 
Stuey Davis Socks said:
Brings back memories of Ridgey’s place kicks for touch. Had never seen it before and have never seen it again.
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I'd forgotten that! Mick Cronin also place kicked for touch I think. Or maybe it was the free kick after kicking to touch?

After a penalty kick for touch everyone takes a tap, but the rules say it is a free kick, which means you can take any kick you like, but not score points if place kick goes between the posts. I think Jack Gibson had Cronin ignore the tap and instead take the free kick as a place kick aiming for the opposite side corner, attempting to put up a bomb for his centres/winger.
 
Brissie Kid said:
I'd forgotten that! Mick Cronin also place kicked for touch I think. Or maybe it was the free kick after kicking to touch?

After a penalty kick for touch everyone takes a tap, but the rules say it is a free kick, which means you can take any kick you like, but not score points if place kick goes between the posts. I think Jack Gibson had Cronin ignore the tap and instead take the free kick as a place kick aiming for the opposite side corner, attempting to put up a bomb for his centres/winger.
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So DCE could potentially try a 40-20 or 20-40 from the free kick?
 
Stuey Davis Socks said:
So DCE could potentially try a 40-20 or 20-40 from the free kick?
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I think so, but i'm not 100%. If he did try it & succeed, that would cause the bunker to implode! A 40/20 is a kick in 'general play'. What is 'general play'? For a 40/20 the ball has to land inside the field before it goes out, so surely it was in 'general play' even if the 'free kick' restart isn't.

If DCE is taking a 'free kick' inside the 40m line in Manly's half, he could punt kick the ball & try to land a 40/20. The other team would have to get back quickly to cover it. The new 20/40 rule would be worth trying it even more, as the 40m sidelines are much harder for the defence to cover!

Its a bit like the 20m restart rule after a missed penalty goal, where the kicking team can get the ball back if the kicker finds touch, but that has to be a drop kick.


40/20 Kick
Where a player kicks the ball in general play bounded by their own dead ball line, 40 metre lines and touchlines and the ball finds touch, otherwise than on the full, at a point on the touchline between the opponents 20 metre line and the goal line, the kickers team shall recommence play with a tap kick.

GENERAL PLAY refers to all aspects of play after a match has been started or re-started by a Place Kick, Drop-Out, Penalty Kick, Free Kick, Scrum, 20m re-start or tap kick from a successful 40/20.

Free Kick (Second Kick) 4. The ball may be kicked in any direction in any manner when bringing it into play after entering touch and the kicker himself may pick up the ball after he has kicked it.
 
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Brissie Kid said:
I think so, but i'm not 100%. If he did try it & succeed, that would cause the bunker to implode! A 40/20 is a kick in 'general play'. What is 'general play'? For a 40/20 the ball has to land inside the field before it goes out, so surely it was in 'general play' even if the 'free kick' restart isn't.

If DCE is taking a 'free kick' inside the 40m line in Manly's half, he could punt kick the ball & try to land a 40/20. The other team would have to get back quickly to cover it. The new 20/40 rule would be worth trying it even more, as the 40m sidelines are much harder for the defence to cover!

Its a bit like the 20m restart rule after a missed penalty goal, where the kicking team can get the ball back if the kicker finds touch, but that has to be a drop kick.


40/20 Kick
Where a player kicks the ball in general play bounded by their own dead ball line, 40 metre lines and touchlines and the ball finds touch, otherwise than on the full, at a point on the touchline between the opponents 20 metre line and the goal line, the kickers team shall recommence play with a tap kick.

GENERAL PLAY refers to all aspects of play after a match has been started or re-started by a Place Kick, Drop-Out, Penalty Kick, Free Kick, Scrum, 20m re-start or tap kick from a successful 40/20.

Free Kick (Second Kick) 4. The ball may be kicked in any direction in any manner when bringing it into play after entering touch and the kicker himself may pick up the ball after he has kicked it.
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@Brissie Kid Great info mate. To remove any doubt about the 40-20 kick being in general play, it could be traditionally tapped before immediately being booted downfield.
 
Stuey Davis Socks said:
@Brissie Kid Great info mate. To remove any doubt about the 40-20 kick being in general play, it could be traditionally tapped before immediately being booted downfield.
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Brissie Kid said:
I think so, but i'm not 100%. If he did try it & succeed, that would cause the bunker to implode! A 40/20 is a kick in 'general play'. What is 'general play'? For a 40/20 the ball has to land inside the field before it goes out, so surely it was in 'general play' even if the 'free kick' restart isn't.

If DCE is taking a 'free kick' inside the 40m line in Manly's half, he could punt kick the ball & try to land a 40/20. The other team would have to get back quickly to cover it. The new 20/40 rule would be worth trying it even more, as the 40m sidelines are much harder for the defence to cover!

Its a bit like the 20m restart rule after a missed penalty goal, where the kicking team can get the ball back if the kicker finds touch, but that has to be a drop kick.


40/20 Kick
Where a player kicks the ball in general play bounded by their own dead ball line, 40 metre lines and touchlines and the ball finds touch, otherwise than on the full, at a point on the touchline between the opponents 20 metre line and the goal line, the kickers team shall recommence play with a tap kick.

GENERAL PLAY refers to all aspects of play after a match has been started or re-started by a Place Kick, Drop-Out, Penalty Kick, Free Kick, Scrum, 20m re-start or tap kick from a successful 40/20.

Free Kick (Second Kick) 4. The ball may be kicked in any direction in any manner when bringing it into play after entering touch and the kicker himself may pick up the ball after he has kicked it.
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Free kick is the kick awarded to a team which kicks into touch from a penalty kick. The kick is taken 10 metres in from touch opposite the point of entry into touch and the ball may be kicked in any manner in any direction. A goal cannot be scored from it, nor can ground be gained by only kicking into touch on the full.

Sounds like anything goes as long as you don't kick for goal or out on the full. 10m in from touch isn't the best spot to kick a 40/20 or 20/40 but if Chez could perfect it, it would be deadly.
 
Stuey Davis Socks said:
@Brissie Kid Great info mate. To remove any doubt about the 40-20 kick being in general play, it could be traditionally tapped before immediately being booted downfield.
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It might actually be the better option anyway. If DCE was looking like he was about to attempt a punt for the sideline instead of a tap, the opposition would catch on quicker.

The dream scenario is Manly get a penalty near Manly goal line, kick for touch & get a free kick just inside the 40m line. Then take the free kick and kick a 40/20. That would be a feat!
 
globaleagle said:
And the nrl's "response".

"It was an accident"

www.foxsports.com.au

NRL shuts down conspiracy theories over Sea Eagles siren ‘disgrace’

NRL shuts down conspiracy theories over Sea Eagles siren ‘disgrace’
www.foxsports.com.au www.foxsports.com.au

If a player is taking a conversion on the stroke of halftime or full-time, Annesley said timekeepers are able to stop the clock with “one or two seconds left before it gets to zero” while the kicker attempts their shot at goal, therefore delaying the siren until after the conversion.

In the Sea Eagles’ game, “It was purely that the timekeeper wasn’t quick enough,” Annesley said.

“It wasn’t a timekeeper sitting up there saying, ‘I’m just going to let this thing go off while he takes the kick’, it was an automated process.” - (garbage, you just said the timekeepers can manually stop the siren)

It likely won’t end any talk of conspiracy theories but it seems the NRL is chalking it up to a coincidence.

Anusley also says the time clocks are automated, except when they aren't. moronasaurus
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One doesn't need to add allegedly, that's dead set rubbish. And I don't use dead set frivolously! (allegedly)

I hope everyone takes air-horns to all remaining games at brookie. I mean if they go off... it'll just be "a coincidence".


edit: I mean I've moved on (like everyone else on here) but wanted to point out the lies...the lies! the....lies!!!!
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You can bet your left one that if it happened at Brookie there would have been a major investigation with the Eagles on the end of a massive fine and probable points deduction, this parra bias is just bs
 
HoldenV8 said:
I still maintain that had the game been played at Brookie with any opposition kicker being 'distracted' by the siren going off ... the NRL would be fining Manly for it. No results would change because they can't actually do that, but you can bet good money that we'd cop a decent fine for it happening.

But do not ever expect anything to happen against a team based in western Sydney right now.

In saying all of that I do think this is much ado about nothing though. I actually agree with @XV-1 above me here. Reubs had plenty of time to pull out of it and re-set for the kick. It was disgraceful that the siren went off during his kick, but its not as if it went off as he was striking the ball. He was still in his run up with time to stop.
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We need a gayfl team playing out of the Northern beaches in order to be looked after like the western Sydney clubs
 
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