Seibold presser ..

Just for once, can’t he say it wasn’t good enough, no positives in losing, we need to take a good hard look at ourselves, we let our home fans down again, unacceptable to lose home games to the sharks 4 years running etc.
Agree, he showed very little emotion, anger or even disappointment. If it was, for example, Payten, Stuart, Bellyache, etc they'd bluntly explain the loss.

As for the journos, I wish they'd ask some relevant questions like why did you not use one player on the bench? Do you expect any injured players to return next week?
 
Who would you have replace Seibold?
Mate Siebold is not the problem! This year started well only to be destabilised by one DCE! His mind is no longer on getting Manly to the finals, rather the brown paper bags of riches awaiting him in Bondi Junction. The sooner he’s gone the sooner we can get back on track. For mine Siebold had the team primed at the start of the year….we started well & then bang Mr Longfellow Deeds decides at the end of round 3 it’s time to stick it up the club & knowingly fu<k any chance we had of a successful year. I’m so disillusioned to the point i’d like to see him limp off against the Cowgirls with a torn hammy & not return this year. Good riddance, Sayonara, Bye Bye, don’t let the door hit your ar$e on the way out of Brookvale. As you can tell I have lost any respect I had for the guy.
 
I just watched the pressr.

If you closed your eyes and listened to Spoony and DCE, you would think DCE was the coach.

Spoony mumbled and gave no real Clear explanations on what we needed to do better and what our problems are.

DCE was clear and concise and gave a very pointed explanation that our attack was not going to get us out of being poor defensively. DCE said very bluntly that good defense actually has a positive affect on your attack as you don't tend to as many risks in attack if your defense is good.

Spoony then mumbles and follows, oh yea DCE is right, we need to he better defensively.

Seriously, Spoony is totally clueless about every thing to do with defense and coaching rugby league in general.

That is why DCE asked for a release for 2024 and will not be here next year. Spoony cannot coach.
 
Mate Siebold is not the problem! This year started well only to be destabilised by one DCE! His mind is no longer on getting Manly to the finals, rather the brown paper bags of riches awaiting him in Bondi Junction. The sooner he’s gone the sooner we can get back on track. For mine Siebold had the team primed at the start of the year….we started well & then bang Mr Longfellow Deeds decides at the end of round 3 it’s time to stick it up the club & knowingly fu<k any chance we had of a successful year. I’m so disillusioned to the point i’d like to see him limp off against the Cowgirls with a torn hammy & not return this year. Good riddance, Sayonara, Bye Bye, don’t let the door hit your ar$e on the way out of Brookvale. As you can tell I have lost any respect I had for the guy.

Total bulldust and you know it.
 
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Yeah thats a fair point, im still scratching my head how all that went down.
Mate Siebold is not the problem! This year started well only to be destabilised by one DCE! His mind is no longer on getting Manly to the finals, rather the brown paper bags of riches awaiting him in Bondi Junction. The sooner he’s gone the sooner we can get back on track. For mine Siebold had the team primed at the start of the year….we started well & then bang Mr Longfellow Deeds decides at the end of round 3 it’s time to stick it up the club & knowingly fu<k any chance we had of a successful year. I’m so disillusioned to the point i’d like to see him limp off against the Cowgirls with a torn hammy & not return this year. Good riddance, Sayonara, Bye Bye, don’t let the door hit your ar$e on the way out of Brookvale. As you can tell I have lost any respect I had for the guy.
 
Justin Holbrook would be my first pick. I'm of the belief that he can definitely coach. 80% success rate with St Helens and had the Titans looking good at various stages. He'd coach the pants of Siebold.
The first person I'd be letting go is Dymock. Our defence under him has been nothing but rubbish. Look at the dogs on top of the table with mostly Nevilles, yet have been winning games on the back of good defence. If Seibold wants to keep his job, he needs to start making some tough calls.
 
Total bulldust and you know it.
Sounds like you have a man crush on DCE. Not bull dust mate fu<ken fact! He looked so interested & played out of his skin yesterday huh? 19 run meters? Numerous errors? Zero assists? Siebold is not the one out on the field doing SFA! DCE has closed shop & is destroying our season. His mind is on Rodeo Drive Bondi Junction. He should be ashamed of the way he’s handled this! You can see most players have zero respect for him. I only wish Siebold had the balls to drop the <unt to reserves! This Agenda against Siebold is what is the bulldust…..he can coach, DCE can’t fu<king play. Pi$$ him off to the headless chooks asap so he can join the love nest with the Squid!
 
I just watched the pressr.

If you closed your eyes and listened to Spoony and DCE, you would think DCE was the coach.

Spoony mumbled and gave no real Clear explanations on what we needed to do better and what our problems are.

DCE was clear and concise and gave a very pointed explanation that our attack was not going to get us out of being poor defensively. DCE said very bluntly that good defense actually has a positive affect on your attack as you don't tend to as many risks in attack if your defense is good.

Spoony then mumbles and follows, oh yea DCE is right, we need to he better defensively.

Seriously, Spoony is totally clueless about every thing to do with defense and coaching rugby league in general.

That is why DCE asked for a release for 2024 and will not be here next year. Spoony cannot coach.
DCE Wont be here because the club didn't want to pay him more than $750k.. And the way it's going, that itself would be a massive overpay.

But hey don't let that get in the way of your grudge against Seibold. What did he do? Steal your big Mac?
 
I just watched the pressr.

If you closed your eyes and listened to Spoony and DCE, you would think DCE was the coach.

Spoony mumbled and gave no real Clear explanations on what we needed to do better and what our problems are.

DCE was clear and concise and gave a very pointed explanation that our attack was not going to get us out of being poor defensively. DCE said very bluntly that good defense actually has a positive affect on your attack as you don't tend to as many risks in attack if your defense is good.

Spoony then mumbles and follows, oh yea DCE is right, we need to he better defensively.

Seriously, Spoony is totally clueless about every thing to do with defense and coaching rugby league in general.

That is why DCE asked for a release for 2024 and will not be here next year. Spoony cannot coach.
But was our defense the problem?

It seems to me our defense has been better since the rot set in and our attack has been garbage (except when turbo was firing against the panthers).

I remember thinking earlier this year, the other side has the ball near our try line so they are going to score. If that was still the case, we would be losing by a lot more.

We let in tries but only after sustained pressure from attacking disasters.
 
Seibold is setting himself up for failure by continually adhering to the senior players. The fact D$E is still in the side let alone the captain is speaking volumes at the moment but the Turbos might be even bigger issues. We looked pretty good for a week without Jake but of course we had to bring him back and play him nearly the full 80 where he was completely ineffective. Tom is talking about playing Origin while he looks like he can’t even walk.

Then you have the flow on effect on Ben and Waddell being locked into the 17 each week. Clearly these guys have way too much influence over the team which we now have over 10 years of evidence that it isn’t deserved. That’s where you need a strong coach to pull them in line and pick the team based on form and who really deserves to be there. After about 2 and a half years in the job I don’t think Seibold has shown himself to be that guy.
 
Seibold is setting himself up for failure by continually adhering to the senior players. The fact D$E is still in the side let alone the captain is speaking volumes at the moment but the Turbos might be even bigger issues. We looked pretty good for a week without Jake but of course we had to bring him back and play him nearly the full 80 where he was completely ineffective. Tom is talking about playing Origin while he looks like he can’t even walk.

Then you have the flow on effect on Ben and Waddell being locked into the 17 each week. Clearly these guys have way too much influence over the team which we now have over 10 years of evidence that it isn’t deserved. That’s where you need a strong coach to pull them in line and pick the team based on form and who really deserves to be there. After about 2 and a half years in the job I don’t think Seibold has shown himself to be that guy.
Don’t forget Garrick has a locked in centre spot for life. The problem is Seibold has no stature as a coach, that is why he just defers to the senior players. May as well not have a coach.
 
Seibold is setting himself up for failure by continually adhering to the senior players. The fact D$E is still in the side let alone the captain is speaking volumes at the moment but the Turbos might be even bigger issues. We looked pretty good for a week without Jake but of course we had to bring him back and play him nearly the full 80 where he was completely ineffective. Tom is talking about playing Origin while he looks like he can’t even walk.

Then you have the flow on effect on Ben and Waddell being locked into the 17 each week. Clearly these guys have way too much influence over the team which we now have over 10 years of evidence that it isn’t deserved. That’s where you need a strong coach to pull them in line and pick the team based on form and who really deserves to be there. After about 2 and a half years in the job I don’t think Seibold has shown himself to be that guy.

No one's game enough to move the "Limp 3" on, so until their overinflated contracts are done we are going nowhere. Luckily DCE has let himself out, so now 2 to go.
Jake needs less minutes blah blah blah, stuff that, get a young gun in there that'll rip it up instead of easing an old man through his contract cause "he's a good bloke".
 
For the people dunking on Seibold, were we any better under Des?

I really don't think coaching is our issue. We could have Bellamy with this roster, and maybe make another semi-final, tops. This is not a premiership roster, and our big three are the most overpaid group in the NRL.

I think roster spots 5-17 were actually our best today. Those are the people Seibold has brought through... And can actually drop if he wants. Unfortunately, the Turbos and DCE are undroppable given their contracts.
Totally disagree with this. The coach has PLENTY to answer for. Do you think if we had Bellamy or Bennett as our coach we’d be going the way we are? Sure we’ve got some injuries and players not playing to their full potential, but that’s the point!! Good coaches hold their players to account and GET THE BEST out of whoever is on the field. Take Souths over the weekend for example. Our team is capable of playing VERY WELL. we’ve seen it just last week. But we’re totally inconsistent and have no resilience. We’ve got plenty of talent but no will to win. And that comes squarely on the coach. And also on our captain who has played pathetically for the main, since announcing to the world that he doesn’t want anything to do with the club beyond this year.
 
Was it a sellout crowd? Or are they over it too, much easier to turn the tv off and not get ripped off! (On and off the field)
It wasn’t a sellout and I guess the dodgy weather migyh have kept the numbers down slightly but I get your point. I’m a ticketed member so I’ll be there every home game but the people who just come casually might be thinking twice about it based on our RUBBISH performances lately at home.
 
At least he didn't say he was proud and start making excuses. Said the errors killed us, not just at 14-all but all through the game. Said we weren't good enough, which is true. But he doesn't look like a man who is confident he has any answers. Instead, he looks like a coach who thinks his players are letting him down.
 
FFS. Every NRL side should have plenty of fight. It’s a basic prerequisite. Why does he have to find something positive to say every week? Is that a new age philosophy? Just for once, can’t he say it wasn’t good enough, no positives in losing, we need to take a good hard look at ourselves, we let our home fans down again, unacceptable to lose home games to the sharks 4 years running etc. so ****ing soft.
I agree entirely. It’s called holding players to account for their performance. I guess the new age player is too cuddly to take responsibility.
 

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