Seibold Ball

[The Bagman]

Interesting article here - explains why our line speed is so slow.

Leeds Rhinos and Manly Sea Eagles are rugby league's weirdos: and the stats prove it

Leeds Rhinos have had a shaky start to Super League in 2024. They, along with Manly, are rugby league's weirdos when it comes to style as the data shows..

www.loverugbyleague.com

 

[The Who]

well. I guess there is nothing wrong with the theory that no matter how many points we concede we have a plan to score more.

 

[The Bagman]

well. I guess there is nothing wrong with the theory that no matter how many points we concede we have a plan to score more.

Let's hope we improve defensively though - I feel like I'm on a rollercoaster every game

 

[Adz]

Think the author is overthinking things.
Bozo had Manly attacking from everywhere back in the 80's,it worked against most but the best drilled sides they struggled to beat.
It is just attacking whenever possible instead of just playing field position.

 

[castle eagle]

id rather watch them try to move the ball as opposed to what we saw near the end of des's reign, even when behind late in the game it was 5 straight hit ups then kick, over & over again hoping for an opposition error.
bored & frustrated the s#!t out of me

 

[Rocky]

It Would be nice to find a balance between attacking flair and grinding things out

It is a cliche, but defence wins premierships.

 

[ManlyTragic]

It Would be nice to find a balance between attacking flair and grinding things out

It is a cliche, but defence wins premierships.

Agree …. But that is why so many grand finals are soooo boring!

 

[mave]

Defence wins comps.

Every coach in the NRL would tell you that, except for Benji and Seibs.

 

[Nordburg]

It’s the same as the “Bazball” argument and much like the man it was named after,Brendan McCullum,it’s highly entertaining at times and fast paced but at the end of the day,you don’t win anything that actually matters

 

[Bloke on the hill]

If the club doesn't believe it's able to win the comp this year, then being competitive whilst playing entertaining footy will hopefully get the crowds & dollars through the gate for the future.

 

[krusty]

Defence wins comps.

Every coach in the NRL would tell you that, except for Benji and Seibs.

And Tim Sheens, Tigers were ranked 10th in defence in 2005. It can be done.

 

[mave]

And Tim Sheens, Tigers were ranked 10th in defence in 2005. It can be done.

I keep bringing this up......it's happened once in living memory, with the most attacking player in the game at Sheens' disposal.....which kinda proves the point of how fustrating it is that we have chosen this path.

I guess the Walker Bros would agree with you as well. How is their NRL coaching careers going?

 

[nightster]

I remember one

Agree …. But that is why so many grand finals are soooo boring!

I remember one a few years back, I think around 2008 …..

 

[krusty]

Just shows you there is more than one way to skin a cat. It’s been done before and can be done again. Our strength is speed and being able to play what we see rather than a highly structured game. We are playing to our strengths. Copying other teams and trying to emulate their plays and playing styles won’t win you anything. We need to play our own style and so far this year it’s got us wins against some of the premiership favourites and has given us a winning chance in every game we have played.

 

[manly al]

Just shows you there is more than one way to skin a cat. It’s been done before and can be done again. Our strength is speed and being able to play what we see rather than a highly structured game. We are playing to our strengths. Copying other teams and trying to emulate their plays and playing styles won’t win you anything. We need to play our own style and so far this year it’s got us wins against some of the premiership favourites and has given us a winning chance in every game we have played.

Tend to agree , though just for example , was just a bit overdone with that Garrick clearing kick in that last season game against the Panthers .Prior to that , pretty much had them unsettled .
Eels and Cowboys were trying a similar style a couple of seasons ago with reasonable outcomes and that Broncs - Storm match earlier this season was played in a similar vein .
Losses to the Raiders and Dolphins this season was more the result of careless and less focussed play rather then any attacking aspects .
Pretty much set a helpful trend moving the ball early against the Roosters this season and unsettling them a bit as well .
Always have to temper things a bit to have the required defensive requirements but fairly well accepted that Manly has some serious speed in their squad and not just confined to the backs .
So to get maximum benefit out of that and giving that speed or part speed advantage some better opportunities , definitely worth trying a less structured attack or as a priority at times

 

[mave]

Of course playing an attacking style is fine, and it's good that we encourage that.

Our tendency to resort to 2nd tackle kicks whilst ahead on the scoreboard, conceding intercept tries on the stroke of half time, etc, etc is where the frustration lies.

Time and place...for both attacking footy, and game management. Until we learn this (Cherry never will), we ain't winning anything.