The Actual 18th Team: Perth Bears

Part of the problem that day was ex-Bear prop Martin Bella (by then at Manly) bagging Norths credentials prior to the game. Giving the latter something to prove. Well done Marty, you ****wit. I don’t think he was too popular with his Manly teammates afterwards.

Billy Moore was about to join Manly earlier in his career, before changing his mind and joining the Bears instead. He seems to have had a chip on his shoulder (about Manly) ever since.
Thanks Tez, yeah I was like 12 at the time and funnily recall something about that Bella stuff. This was really my first proper finals experience as a true manly fan. I did catch some of the Tigers win and Broncs loss the year before but in 1990 I was following a few teams. Mainly based on which logo I liked! I remember in 91 looking forward to that bears game all day and was devastated when they lost. Funny actually, I grew up in NZ and the Bears had quite a strong fan base there. Similar to Ridge at Manly at the time, due to Halligan playing with them.
 
The thing that I dont understand is have they gauged there's enough support over there to make it even work, how many North Sydney Bears fans are going to make a 5 hour flight to Perth for a home game, i dont know what's worse the PNG team or the Bears
At least PNG will garner a gazillion viewers up there , but yes their away crowds will be tiny.
 
All but locked in for a 2027 return to the NRL.

This will push the PNG team back to the 19th team, and entering in 2028.

Setting PNG up to fail if they enter the scene 12 months after the Black and Reds. Playing pool will have nothing left. Either Enter the same year and compete equally, or 4 years between em.
 
But each tv owner will probably have lots of visitors at game time so ...!
Common sense says surely it'll be free to air. It must be one of the poorest countries in the world?
Yeah it’s subsistence farming to survive up there , I’ve been a couple of times.

It’s like the wild Wild West in some areas
 

The Bears will make a return to the NRL after nearly three decades, with the foundation club resurrected in Western Australia.

And this year marks the 30th anniversary of elite rugby league’s first foray into Perth, with the Western Reds — who debuted in the 1995 ARL competition, before folding as the Perth Reds after the conclusion of the 1997 Super League.

There was no place for them in the unified NRL when it began in 1998, despite strong early support from fans in the west — so a Perth team will be appearing in this iteration of the competition for the first time, with a roster built from scratch.

The 54 players who represented the Reds during their three-year existence were eclectic, to say the least.
 
Thanks GE. Interesting article. Four ex-Eagles amongst the 54 Reds players:
  • Craig Innes
  • Jamie Olejnik
  • Jon Grieve
  • Chris Ryan
with the latter holding the Reds’ all time try scoring and total points records (and probably more female fans hearts than any other player!).
 
I actually think this is great. Keep pushing the national expansion..... its the only way to grow the game.
Welcome back to the bears. They deserve a crack
I respectfully disagree. They were a terribly run club who misinformed Manly of the level of their debt prior to the merger. As a result the merger was doomed to fail before it began and they nearly took Manly under with them.

Since then they’ve attached their brand to any consortium looking to expand, from the Central Coast, to PNG, and now Perth.

They offer nothing other than a logo, the WA government and the NRL are bankrolling this, the Bears are just attaching themselves like a parasite.
 

Scared reaction of Perth media dinosaurs vindicates NRL expansion call​

Story by Tom Naghten

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Scared reaction of Perth media dinosaurs vindicates NRL expansion call


The NRL's newest team has only just been made official but Perth's media heavyweights have already got their back up.

WA Premier Roger Cook and Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) boss Peter V'landys are set to confirm the inclusion of a Perth-based club into the NRL on Thursday.

In response, The West Australian has come out swinging on the front page: "THE BAD NEWS BEARS," it reads.

"Rugby-mad Roger Cook forces WA taxpayers to pay Sydney's NRL rejects $65m to play in Perth".

For starters, the use of "rugby" tells you all you need to know about their familiarity with the sport.

Of course, there are several vested interests at play here.

For one, let's look at Seven West Media, owner of The West.

Headed up by Aussie rules-fanatic and billionaire Kerry Stokes, don't expect the NRL to get any love from what is effectively the only paper in town.

Seven West Media also owns the Seven Network, the holder of the AFL's free-to-air TV rights, the NRL's biggest competitor.

The accompanying article in The West adds that the, "Cook indulgence delivers questionable economic benefit to the AFL-mad State for a game with negligible local fanbase and no elite players, but will further pump up the NRL's coffers by allowing it now to chase an even bigger payment from rights holders in its next broadcast deal."

With the current NRL rights deal due to expire at the end of 2027, the ARLC is expected to add both the WA-based team and a PNG side to the competition around that time.

Any jump in the price of a broadcast deal would make waves across Australia's sporting landscape and likely be reflected when Seven - and its competitors - come to the table to negotiate a new deal for the AFL rights in 2031.

It's easy to see why Stokes and Co. aren't jumping up and down at that prospect.

While rugby league won't be unseating AFL as the main event in the west any time soon, the hostile reaction from the media powerhouse shows the threat of competition is present and vindicates the game's move to reestablish a team there.

Additionally, the assertion that there is "negligible local fanbase" is a weak one.

South Sydney have hosted three double headers in Perth in recent years, averaging an attendance of 38,700, while more than 20,000 turned up to watch the Dolphins play the Roosters in 2024.

Not to mention the sell-out crowds at Optus Stadium every time State of Origin has made the trip across.

Of course, getting fans through the gates once or twice a year is a different proposition to every second week, but to suggest there is no appetite for rugby league among the nearly 3 million Western Australians is simply untrue.

The fact of the matter is that the WA government will be pouring in less than $10 million annually over seven years to the team.

Last year, a surplus of $2.6 billion was forecast in the state budget - Cook is breaking off 0.38 per cent of that to bring a professional rugby league club to the state for the first time since the Western Reds' short-lived run ended in 1997.

Whether The West and Seven get behind it or not, it's happening.
 
For one, let's look at Seven West Media, owner of The West.

Headed up by Aussie rules-fanatic and billionaire Kerry Stokes, don't expect the NRL to get any love from what is effectively the only paper in town.


I wonder how many sports/NRL fans actually read or get their news from a newspaper? My 30ish son and his 40 odd mates that I'm in a tipping group chat with ... all get their info from podcasts and their phones.
 

Scared reaction of Perth media dinosaurs vindicates NRL expansion call​

Story by Tom Naghten

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Scared reaction of Perth media dinosaurs vindicates NRL expansion call


The NRL's newest team has only just been made official but Perth's media heavyweights have already got their back up.

WA Premier Roger Cook and Australian Rugby League Commission (ARLC) boss Peter V'landys are set to confirm the inclusion of a Perth-based club into the NRL on Thursday.

In response, The West Australian has come out swinging on the front page: "THE BAD NEWS BEARS," it reads.

"Rugby-mad Roger Cook forces WA taxpayers to pay Sydney's NRL rejects $65m to play in Perth".

For starters, the use of "rugby" tells you all you need to know about their familiarity with the sport.

Of course, there are several vested interests at play here.

For one, let's look at Seven West Media, owner of The West.

Headed up by Aussie rules-fanatic and billionaire Kerry Stokes, don't expect the NRL to get any love from what is effectively the only paper in town.

Seven West Media also owns the Seven Network, the holder of the AFL's free-to-air TV rights, the NRL's biggest competitor.

The accompanying article in The West adds that the, "Cook indulgence delivers questionable economic benefit to the AFL-mad State for a game with negligible local fanbase and no elite players, but will further pump up the NRL's coffers by allowing it now to chase an even bigger payment from rights holders in its next broadcast deal."

With the current NRL rights deal due to expire at the end of 2027, the ARLC is expected to add both the WA-based team and a PNG side to the competition around that time.

Any jump in the price of a broadcast deal would make waves across Australia's sporting landscape and likely be reflected when Seven - and its competitors - come to the table to negotiate a new deal for the AFL rights in 2031.

It's easy to see why Stokes and Co. aren't jumping up and down at that prospect.

While rugby league won't be unseating AFL as the main event in the west any time soon, the hostile reaction from the media powerhouse shows the threat of competition is present and vindicates the game's move to reestablish a team there.

Additionally, the assertion that there is "negligible local fanbase" is a weak one.

South Sydney have hosted three double headers in Perth in recent years, averaging an attendance of 38,700, while more than 20,000 turned up to watch the Dolphins play the Roosters in 2024.

Not to mention the sell-out crowds at Optus Stadium every time State of Origin has made the trip across.

Of course, getting fans through the gates once or twice a year is a different proposition to every second week, but to suggest there is no appetite for rugby league among the nearly 3 million Western Australians is simply untrue.

The fact of the matter is that the WA government will be pouring in less than $10 million annually over seven years to the team.

Last year, a surplus of $2.6 billion was forecast in the state budget - Cook is breaking off 0.38 per cent of that to bring a professional rugby league club to the state for the first time since the Western Reds' short-lived run ended in 1997.

Whether The West and Seven get behind it or not, it's happening.
With Bears DNA, they will likely cop a few floggings, perhaps rise to mid table mediocrity, and attract average crowd sizes of sub 10,000 once the initial buzz wears off. Eventually the cash will dry up and the Bears will be back in hibernation. Their only hope is to get Bellamy as coaching coordinator to turn them into storm V2.
 
I havent seen some of my manly mates this fired up ever,and they have been sitting on the hill at Brooky since the late 1960s, even turned to aerial ping pong when the merger happened, saw footage of Bears fans crying,seems to be all about North Sydney, nothing about Perth i can see this flopping and we end up with another Sydney team
 

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