Salary Cap Witch Hunt. **Appeal unsuccessful**

[Budgie]

There was a complete cleanout of Staff after 2v left.

Most current employees are new and their private lives aren't for perusal by non law enforecement groups.

As Manly is privately owned, one would assume all payments are now handled by the Penn owned majority shareholder Company. NRL did audit this just last month.

The Crime Commission handed over the details of the alleged payments.
But if that person is no longer/was never a MSE employee, then the NRL has no rights (see Gee precedent)

The Manly Staff are aware of the media attacks on the Club and the past players acused of the now cleared match fixing.
Why would they risk the NRL leaking personal info about them to the smh

Even in a court of law, the privilege against self- incrimination entitles a person to refuse to talk

The other thing to remember is the Penns run a very big business outside of Manly and I can't imagine they'd be wanting any other company going through those computers and having access to commercial operations.

 

[Chip and Chase]

The auditors then requested access to every staff members home PC, wives or partners phones , iPads , laptops, kids phones, in essence every single device owned or used personally by every staff member and their entire family.

Tell em they're dreaming. Without some sort of probable cause they have buckleys of achieving that. Are they suggesting that we are running a salary cap racket through Snapchat on the iPad of a staff members 14yr kid ??

 

[HappilyManly]

The other thing to remember is the Penns run a very big business outside of Manly and I can't imagine they'd be wanting any other company going through those computers and having access to commercial operations.

As the article quotes, define the timeframe and person, then the lawyers will all be happy

 

[cherry_poppins]

God, if they took my computer, they'd need to run Spyhunter straight after for all the malware from youporn, pornhub, xnxx, youjizz would throw onto the NRL's network.

My computer is like Montgomery Burns. So much Porn malware, that it balances itself out, and will never die !!

Good luck NRL !

Don't forget spicyplumpers.com

 

[globaleagle]

The auditors then requested access to every staff members home PC, wives or partners phones , iPads , laptops, kids phones, in essence every single device owned or used personally by every staff member and their entire family.

If true then wow....yes, tell them to take a hike and good luck using mrs so and so's refusal to hand over her ipod as a reason to deduct points.

Also the computers maybe would have strategies and potential signing preferences, etc.

It's bad enough to have to hand over your 'war plans' to HQ just so they can see how Manly remain successful but I'm not sure how convinced I am that Manly's upcoming strategies and signing preferences would remain confidential. Possibly some of Manly's future plans *could* be leaked to other teams.

 

[lsz]

Gee resigned and that meant the NRL suddenly had no power to investigate him.

"Gee has been a mysterious figure for the past nine months as he moved into work in the property market but he will reconnect with the Broncos when he attends the club’s season launch at City Hall on Friday night. Gee, a Broncos life member and former Leagues Club director, has not told anyone what he knows about the $300,000 that went missing from the Leagues Club’s accounts last year and he declined to co-operate with the NRL Integrity Unit...

"...An NRL investigation cleared Brisbane of having knowledge of wrong doing in their salary cap saga but the fact remains a significant amount of money went missing from the Broncos Leagues Club accounts then reappeared in full."

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...b/news-story/a01891a796ed892915ed304bf61dc8ed

I was just about to post the same thing....

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Ever watched Game of Thrones, Ned Starc's head ended up on a pike!

Yes, ended his cricketing career...oh sorry, I was confusing him with Mitchell Starc.

 

[manlyfan76]

How long till we are all labelled terrorists and locked up for a month without charge?

 

[yokahontas]

As @niccipops suggested i would be straight onto the union.

I would still hand it over in all likelyhood. If you have nothing to hide there is no issue.

The fact that that it might help an investigation and help incriminate people doing the wrong thing would be enough motivation for me.

The problem isn't likely to be that there's 'anything to hide' in terms of this *investigation* - any number of these employees may well have 'something to hide' that has absolutely nothing to do with their employer. Phones, computers, iPads etc would have evidence of extramarital affairs, weird fetish porn, maybe mental health issues you don't want anyone else to know about.

Even without the dodgy stuff, my personal devices have financial data, emails about jobs I've been applying for etc that are nobody's business but mine. I'd reckon most people would be the same.

 

[The Wheel]

God, if they took my computer, they'd need to run Spyhunter straight after for all the malware from youporn, pornhub, xnxx, youjizz would throw onto the NRL's network.

My computer is like Montgomery Burns. So much Porn malware, that it balances itself out, and will never die !!

Good luck NRL !

It would also expose your extensive Grinder contact list

 

[Dan]

It's interesting from a European stand point. Even the police would find it extremely difficult to obtain access to private devices, a private organization such as the nrl would have absolutely no chance unless they felt like paying massive fines for data privacy breaches. The eu laws on data protection are very very very strong, and if you think about it from a German perspective where post war you couldn't even trust that your family wouldn't inform on you in someway it makes sense.

I don't actually think there is anything to this part of the rumor and i for one although I have nothing to hide would not be handing over my phone or personal computers to anyone but the police and only then on warrant terms only and additionally only the parts covered by the warrant.

Personal data is so important and no one but you has a right to that.

 

[brad]

I find it hard to believe that they requested wives and or partners phones , ipads and even kids stuff , whatever. Abit over the top.

 

[cherry_poppins]

Ever watched Game of Thrones, Ned Starc's head ended up on a pike!

What he's related to Mitchell is he? **** me swinging mate

 

[Loobs]

I find it hard to believe that they requested wives and or partners phones , ipads and even kids stuff , whatever. Abit over the top.

Did they do all this when looking into the Broncos book recently? Oh no they just said Andrew Gee doesn't work there any more and gave up. Funny how different the rules are for us...

 

[Ryan]

It would also expose your extensive Grinder contact list

 

[Shoe1]

Manly has a lot of info pertaining to Greenberg and hasler's dealings prior to Des's defection, which date back to at least may 2011. Greenberg wants this info so it can be deleted. While manly has this data Greenberg deems it a threat.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

The company can't ask their staff for these private devices, neither can the auditors SO the request was refused.

If this was a criminal case then the Police could obtain all these.

@SeaEagleRock8 knows a lot more about the laws here than I do, he might like to explain.

I think you've already explained it!

 

[Kevinward777]

I think you've already explained it!

And very well for those of us who are ignorant of the finer machinations of the law. Now I guarantee you would not find knowledge such as this over at the Kennel.

 

[Ryan]

And very well for those of us who are ignorant of the finer machinations of the law. Now I guarantee you would not find knowledge such as this over at the Kennel.

I can summarize The Kennel's Forum in three statements:

1. Des is a c*nt
2. The board are c*nts
3. Raylene Castle is a c*nt

Now, I've pretty much just summarised the last half a decade of posts over there

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

I can summarize The Kennel's Forum in three statements:

1. Des is a c*nt
2. The board are c*nts
3. Raylene Castle is a c*nt

Now, I've pretty much just summarised the last half a decade of posts over there

A lot of variety there.