Sack Spoony Siebold

[Ohgeez]

any other coach would of retained those two on similar money.if you think otherwise than you have no idea

So what’s your point here exactly? That doesn’t change the fact that it’s a terrible situation for a new coach to have to walk in too. My point stands, until those contracts are over the club can’t move forward in Siebolds direction.

 

[Ohgeez]

All clubs that have Elite players are on a budget and All Head coaches have a choice in who they sign
Bellamy at the storm signs Budget promising young players and Builds them up
Seibold signs used by date Old players and winds them down to retirement
But according to you , Seibold the Head coach has no say in who the club recruits
According to you Seibold is not accountable for anything
According to you
The Easter Bunny is accountable
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Tf are you talking about??

 

[BOZO]

Tf are you talking about??

You read what I am talking about feathered friend
But it is seems you have no answers
Just like the bloke you are desperately trying to defend

 

[silvereagle]

Tf are you talking about??

Just heard Seibold interview on 2GB. No interest in Galvin and sticking with our younger guys and current succession strategy. Great to see. Good decision. Lets get our own house in order first and foremost.

 

[Rocky]

You’re probably right about that at the time. The thing for me is the term of the deals, that was the question, why 6 years? Why not a 3 x 3 in the clubs favour, it’s not smart business to go so deep into the future on any deals, injuries, form slumps, anything can happen.

Similarly, DCE, now Quac (and I get it) even other long term contracts like, JT, now Brown, that’s even crazier, I guess Galvin will be next. I think Newcastle have lost the plot, Browns a good player and maybe worth the coin and maybe not, 6 years would of have been a better call and even then structured as a 3x3, even a 5x5, if they had to go 10, but 10 straight up, it’s a massive gamble, one that hasn’t really seemed to pay off for other clubs, just don’t see long term deals as the right option, too many variables moving forward. We are unfortunately experiencing the variables and have become as is being discussed, hamstrung, disadvantaged by that very situation. No more long term deals please, shorten then down and structure them in with options, even if it cost a little extra to exercise. It also works the other way to protect the club and the cap.

Its so player dependant in my view

No to long term deals on overpriced, injured players

Yes to long term deals on younger studs like Haumole.

 

[Ohgeez]

Just heard Seibold interview on 2GB. No interest in Galvin and sticking with our younger guys and current succession strategy. Great to see. Good decision. Lets get our own house in order first and foremost.

I’m fine with that, if we aren’t chasing Galvin I think that just means Fogarty is locked in for next year. Hopefully we have enough to get a young prop as well. Will be good if Large & Walsh can string some games together now without injury/illness

 

[silvereagle]

I’m fine with that, if we aren’t chasing Galvin I think that just means Fogarty is locked in for next year. Hopefully we have enough to get a young prop as well. Will be good if Large & Walsh can string some games together now without injury/illness

Given current cap constraints, I don't think we can legitimately go after a top line prop and 2nd rower until after we restructure some existing contracts. There is no legal reason why these discussions cannot start immediately.

 

[Pete W]

Its so player dependant in my view

No to long term deals on overpriced, injured players

Yes to long term deals on younger studs like Haumole.

Long term deals should be avoided for anyone - particularly forwards. If a player's value is more skewed towards his physicality and athleticism, as opposed to footy smarts I.e. hooker/half, then the last few years sees the club utterly screwed. I love Haumole, probably the best player in this team by a fair way all things considered, but his deal was too long.

Only desperate clubs get trapped like this. 3-5 years is the absolute longest any player contract should be - and even these terms should be dished out sparingly

 

[Rocky]

Long term deals should be avoided for anyone - particularly forwards. If a player's value is more skewed towards his physicality and athleticism, as opposed to footy smarts I.e. hooker/half, then the last few years sees the club utterly screwed. I love Haumole, probably the best player in this team by a fair way all things considered, but his deal was too long.

Only desperate clubs get trapped like this. 3-5 years is the absolute longest any player contract should be - and even these terms should be dished out sparingly

In the case of Haumole I'm totally comfortable dishing out a long contract at an ok price. He's now the cornerstone of the club and that adds to stability, which is very important

 

[EOL now nesting on the GC]

You’re probably right about that at the time. The thing for me is the term of the deals, that was the question, why 6 years? Why not a 3 x 3 in the clubs favour, it’s not smart business to go so deep into the future on any deals, injuries, form slumps, anything can happen.

Similarly, DCE, now Quac (and I get it) even other long term contracts like, JT, now Brown, that’s even crazier, I guess Galvin will be next. I think Newcastle have lost the plot, Browns a good player and maybe worth the coin and maybe not, 6 years would of have been a better call and even then structured as a 3x3, even a 5x5, if they had to go 10, but 10 straight up, it’s a massive gamble, one that hasn’t really seemed to pay off for other clubs, just don’t see long term deals as the right option, too many variables moving forward. We are unfortunately experiencing the variables and have become as is being discussed, hamstrung, disadvantaged by that very situation. No more long term deals please, shorten then down and structure them in with options, even if it cost a little extra to exercise. It also works the other way to protect the club and the cap.

Its heading towards all clubs signing up players on long term deals but with a transfer window where clubs and players can move at a cost. Just a poor mans version of European football.

Imagine the DCE ****show. Long term contract that he wants out of. could be a fall out with the coach or other players or even a return to a different state even for family reasons. His manager finds a club needing a HB that would take him. he would go to the club and say he wants to enter the transfer window. the club slaps on a transfer fee up to 75% of his remaining contract on him and either he could pay it himself to enter the window or a club has to pay if they sign him.

wouldn't be like football where 200 million was paid for a player just a percentage of his or her remaining contract. all in the open, fully transparent.

Clubs could also off load players that were not required by new coaches or systems. The current model just doesn't work in 2025.

 

[XV-1]

And we wonder why DCE is leaving and asked for a release last year.
Spoony - that is the reason

 

[DieHardManlyFan]

Are coaches subject to random drug tests? If they are I think we will have an escape clause

 

[Thewestisbest]

Get rid of him now. Bring in Arthur who is a harder edged coach who the players seem to love. At least Brad has made a GF. Spoon will NEVER make the last game of the season.

 

[The Eagle Has Landed]

The same ****e team will get picked again. And we'll play the Panthers into form. They'll put 40+ on us.

 

[hammerthumbs]

My measurement is that Seibold has had zero success and our team looks poorly coached. If you think we look like a well coached team, I would be interested to hear it. There is no universe in which Seibold and Cleary should be mentioned together.

Seibold needs to go, it’s hard to watch😩

 

[Thewestisbest]

The same ****e team will get picked again. And we'll play the Panthers into form. They'll put 40+ on us.

Mate. Penrith are going to smash us next week. They will literally roll us through the middle over and over again. It's going to be a hard watch. In fact, I probably won't watch it considering all the crap I'm going to cop out here in the Golden West.

 

[hammerthumbs]

My mail is the Trebojavic’s are the new Fulton's and becoming disliked.

Love jack but he is past it, Ben is crap but Seibold persists, Tom is a star but is never there!!!!

 

[Thewestisbest]

Our attack the past three weeks has been terrible.

 

[MANLY4LIFE]

And he can take dymock with him…

 

[The Royal Soup]

just really proud of the effort and the way the team stayed in the fight tonight, we were in it right till the final siren

that’s the Manly way!