Sack Seibold Immediately

[Brookie1973]

Because we want a premiership

Fancy supporters of a football team wanting them to win games. It’s unheard of. We should just accept mediocrity.

 

[Brookie1973]

Listen to Marvin’s voice

Yes, it makes sense now.

 

[TheBigO]

From Michael Chambermaid at the SMH:


Trbojevic shift, players dropped: Manly coach has two games to prove he can turn club around

By Michael Chammas

June 16, 2025 — 7.55pm

Anthony Seibold held a series of one-on-one meetings with his Manly players on Monday in a bid to save his coaching career, making one of the biggest calls of his time at the club by shifting Tom Trbojevic to the centres.

Seibold held seven-minute talks with each player as pressure mounts on the under-fire coach to turn the struggling Sea Eagles’ fortunes around.

The coach handed each player a document, outlining his concerns with their performances this year.

Manly sources with knowledge of the situation talking on the condition of anonymity due to confidentiality said Seibold’s approach upset certain sections of his team, who were critical of the coach providing criticism and few solutions.

It will do little to ease a growing narrative coming out of the Manly playing group that Seibold has limitations as a head coach and may have reached his ceiling with the Sea Eagles.

Manly have a bye this week but home games against the Wests Tigers and South Sydney before another bye in round 19 could have major ramifications on his future at the club.

Manly CEO Tony Mestrov said Seibold wasn’t under any pressure, for now, and the club was determined to get back to winning ways.

“At the moment, Marvin is safe at this point,” Mestrov said.

“Seibs understands this as well as I do, it’s all about winning games. Seibs is safe at this point.”

Sources told this masthead that Lachlan Croker and Jason Saab could spend time in NSW Cup this week despite Manly having the bye.

The major talking point out of Seibold’s meetings is the expected shift of Tom Trbojevic from fullback to centre to accommodate the return of Lehi Hopoate, who missed the loss against the Gold Coast Titans after picking up a concussion the previous week.

“As a club we know the last two losses have been unacceptable,” Mestrov said.

“As a club we’re going to turn this around. We have a bye this week and two games at home. There’s no better way to get the season back on track against the Tigers and Souths. We’ve just got to do better. It’s as simple as that. We’re all in this together as a club.”

Mestrov admitted he had met with Seibold but insisted it was nothing out of the ordinary. Seibold’s contract with Manly was recently extended through to the end of 2027 but is believed to include a six-month pay-out.

“We chat after every game,” Mestrov said.

“There’s no crisis meeting or anything like that. We just spoke about how we can turn it around. I felt like I could give advice and he could give me advice. We’ve got a good relationship. As a club we’ve got to turn it around. It was constructive conversation about how we can turn our season around.”

Manly last month begun conversations with the management of Jake and Tom Trbojevic about extending their respective careers on the Northern Beaches before they hit the open market on November 1.

The brothers are contracted until the end of 2026, but Sea Eagles chief executive Tony Mestrov has personally opened talks with their manager to begin working on a deal to keep both as one-club players.

Young gun Hopoate, who recently extended his Manly deal until the end of 2027, is seen as the long-term successor to Tom at fullback having impressed in Tom’s absence due to injury.

A move to five-eighth for Tom was previously touted, but the arrival of Jamal Fogarty next season has placed a question mark over such a shift given the Sea Eagles also have Luke Brooks on their books. The decision to move Trbojevic to centre will only further add to Manly’s conundrum on what he is worth and how long to extend him for.

Manly open negotiations with Trbojevic brothers as Tom ponders England move

Tom is in no rush to decide his future, nor does he want Manly to feel obliged to make him an offer as a mark of respect for what he has done for the club.

Trbojevic does not want to play against Manly and has told those close to him he would be open to a move to the Super League in 2027 if it was in the Sea Eagles’ best interest for him to leave the club.

"Manly sources with knowledge of the situation talking on the condition of anonymity due to confidentiality said Seibold’s approach upset certain sections of his team, who were critical of the coach providing criticism and few solutions".

If this is accurate it's very telling, and Anthony is on extremely thin ice. If our players have lost faith and don't think he can provide solutions he has to go. And I don't agree with Ennis because if he could see issues with our team why hasn't he made corrective action already. With DCE going (for whatever reason. I don't care), and Tom and Jake possible having their contract halved we need to get some middle forwards with mongrel and mobility. We should be glad this has come out in the media because at least it gives us some optimism that something is being done, and better days are ahead.
Don't get me started on DCE sabotaging our year on 100% Footy a few months backs!!! #gomanly

 

[47MVEagle]

So:
Club keeps backing seibold (who can't coach)

DCE knows seibs is a dud and has had enough

We hate DCE because he won't play for the coach that we all want sacked.

DCE doesn't believe in Enis as coach.

We don't rate Enis as a coach and rather proven failures

Misiing anything?

DCE seemed to have no problem with Barrett as a coach though?

 

[Budgie]

And I don't agree with Ennis because if he could see issues with our team why hasn't he made corrective action already.

Ever had a boss?

 

[Raven Mad Manly Fan]

100%. Been saying this for months

This is why DCE wants out - Spoony

You know, looking back now with the benefit of hindsight and after all the fallout, and the way things have panned out, I reckon you might be 100% on the money.

And I reckon DCE's decisive moment on bailing out on the club came when they extended Seibold. I reckon at that moment DCE knew there was nothing more he could achieve at Manly with Seibold here.

 

[Raven Mad Manly Fan]

DCE seemed to have no problem with Barrett as a coach though?

Yes, that's interesting too isn't it? The only thing I can glean from that is that DCE must rate Trent as a better coach than Seibold - now that's saying something!

 

[47MVEagle]

I reckon DCE's been sucking sour grapes since the club knocked back his request for an early release in the 2024 pre-season.

Blaming it on his opinion of the coach's ability is just lazy, especially given he was happy to serve under Barrett's disastrous reign as coach.

 

[Brookie1973]

The coach handed each player a document, outlining his concerns with their performances this year.
Apparently it was cut-and-paste from our Forum 'suggestions'.

In that case, the players could have handed back their own documents to the coach outlining their concerns with his performance - there’s plenty of material here they could have cut and pasted.

 

[Ohgeez]

Am I remembering correctly that play we used against Penrith when Koula popped up on the right side of the field to slice through was Ennis’ idea?

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

Am I remembering correctly that play we used against Penrith when Koula popped up on the right side of the field to slice through was Ennis’ idea?

I think Seibold credited it to Steven Hales.

 

[The '47ers]

Another ‘n’ in Enis, to make Ennis.

Caught somewhere between Penn and Penis

 

[manly al]

Guess if the pressure and even necessity may occur if things can not improve even marginally with Manly stocks and indirectly Siebs , certainly is going to be an expensive pay out.
Taking into account he still apparently has 2 and a half years to run on his current deal
Then also still taking into account the [ well to me ] quite extensive coaching and support staff on the pay roll now
Money will have to be sourced from somewhere and no doubt most likely from the Penn"s pocket but once an untenable situation has been reached , most likely no other option
Obvious instances of players not performing up to expectation can mainly be confined to and probably in order , D C E , Brooks , Turbo [ but for sure have to take into account that he is playing busted ] and to a lesser extent , Saab , Croker and Jake
Just can not have too high expectations with the likes of Waddell , Sipps , Brown, T K O
Only a personal take but think that the likes of Burbo , Garrick , Koula , Bully , Jass, even Simpkin and naturally Lehi , Ola , Talau are having a decent dig and pretty much playing consistently up to expectation .
So it is that grouping of largely higher profile players that seem the major issue and don't necessarily go along with the lack of forward dominance .
Plays a part but experienced players with the capacity should still be showing some form level above a quite ordinary level regardless of any general adversity
Again do exclude Turbo to a large degree with his playing ability limitations for a good part of this season .
But the coach still has to have and maintain the confidence and general respect from the playing group as well and if that is going to deteriorate ,Not only Siebs but any N R L coach not being able to control this situation apart from some team performance improvement , would have to be on limited time

 

[manly al]

Has to be considered also the likes of D C E , Turbo , Jake , Brooks are taking up just over 3 . 5 mil of the cap , pretty much one third .
And if not getting value for money and predominately regular below par performance outcomes or in Turbo 's case also regular non - availability, sure is going to restrict a side"s success prospects and not even including any particular issues on the coaching front

 

[Budgie]

Guess if the pressure and even necessity may occur if things can not improve even marginally with Manly stocks and indirectly Siebs , certainly is going to be an expensive pay out.

I read somewhere that the max payout is six months.

Can't coach, can't negotiate

 

[manlyfan76]

100%. Been saying this for months

This is why DCE wants out - Spoony

And whatmough lower grade coach.

 

[XV-1]

I reckon DCE's been sucking sour grapes since the club knocked back his request for an early release in the 2024 pre-season.

Blaming it on his opinion of the coach's ability is just lazy, especially given he was happy to serve under Barrett's disastrous reign as coach.

The reason why DCE asked for a release was Seibold.

He must be a complete crap coach to have a club legend leave.

 

[47MVEagle]

The reason why DCE asked for a release was Seibold.

He must be a complete crap coach to have a club legend leave.

You got a source for that claim or are you just swallowing everything your confirmation bias feeds you on social media?

 

[Phobia]

Am I remembering correctly that play we used against Penrith when Koula popped up on the right side of the field to slice through was Ennis’ idea?

Koula on the day said that DCE created it on the spot. It's in his post-match interview.

 

[Dee Why Eagle]

The reason why DCE asked for a release was Seibold.

He must be a complete crap coach to have a club legend leave.

And you say this on what basis?
Sounds like pure conjecture to me