In hindsight it is interesting to what a dismal failure was the strategt of purchasing failed 'badboys' (at cheap prices) from other club, hoping for a second chance and a positive impact for Manly. McGuiness had one season under Sharp and was released before Des started (acrimoniously), Solo lasted two mediocre seasons (on Mogadon), Andrew Walker was wiped out due to drugs (though had some good attacking moments (making Monas look good) and Hoppa was Hoppa - spending most of his time suspended, though playing some good footy (especially in 2003). (The only ex-badboy we didn't get was Criag Field and that is because we had already tried him - and failed!!) All the media talk of them being part of the pool of Senior players who would bring on the youngsters came to nought - who was writing that nonsense anyway? It didn't translate in positives for Manly and could only be considered a failed experiment!! Goes to show that the Sheens theory of getting rid of players with poor attitudes (despite their ability) and building a winning culture is more important. The two BKs were very important purchases and hopefully Bell and Orford will add more to a winning feeling and work ethic that needs to further develop at Manly. We need more winners rather than ex-Reform School inmates. The new players need to add leadership as I think this is an important aspect of our team that hasn't been much discussed. Since Monasgate we have not seemed to have much leadership apart from the example of Ben Kennedy. I also have been concerned about recent comments from many posters of good young players who were pointed out to Manly officials, for nothing to happen and other clubs to snap them up. I have every confidence in Crusher, who has brought on brilliant talent (and needs time) but I am concerned that there are hints that others in the club are not supporting the process of recruiting the best. At least we aren't relying on the reform school for our leaders.