Preacher 'prepares' Costello
First of all, science cannot prove that the brain contains the conscience. At that stage the lungs are not needed, it has what it needs to survive at that point in time. As an evolutionist you will understand that.
But according to you, you didn't have all those once either. Tell me, what was your first memory like when your heart started beating or your lungs fully developed. How about your first day at home, what was that like?
Do you think you would know you were being murdered when you were a week old?
With regards to my previous point, until it can be proven where the conscience resides and originates from you cannot use that as a excuse for terminating a pregnancy.
You are defining consciousness by an organisms ability to live outside the womb when in every hosptial over the planet there a people in comas hooked up too life support who have no brain activity yet can still listen to converstations and have memory of them upon waking. Does that sound like a person who should die?
Thats a terrible comparison. As you pointed out an egg isn't fertilised and thus I wouldn't be killing anything. And no, I don't eat chicken fetus.
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fLIP...there is no brain at that point, that take a lot longer in the process to develop.
but fLIP memory does not define consciousness. Just because I don't remember being born, or the first day at home doesnt mean I was not conscious and aware.
When we talk about aborted fetus generally and yes there are exceptions, we are not talking about a life, the fetus can not live outside the womb and therefore is not a living thing, it is a part of the females body.
You have to remove the image in your head of a bouncing baby and understand what it is at that point.
And despite your personaly distaste in it, it is not your decision to make if say I wanted to have an abortion if my partner was pregnant, how is it your right, or your decision to take that decision away from me?
This is democracy and by taking away peoples right to choose and having the government control us and the choices we can make, you no longer have a democracy but instead you have a dictatorship,
That is my fundamental dislike for this kind of lobby and governement legislation, the right is mine to choose not for you to take away the choice for me
First of all, science cannot prove that the brain contains the conscience. At that stage the lungs are not needed, it has what it needs to survive at that point in time. As an evolutionist you will understand that.
But according to you, you didn't have all those once either. Tell me, what was your first memory like when your heart started beating or your lungs fully developed. How about your first day at home, what was that like?
Do you think you would know you were being murdered when you were a week old?
With regards to my previous point, until it can be proven where the conscience resides and originates from you cannot use that as a excuse for terminating a pregnancy.
You are defining consciousness by an organisms ability to live outside the womb when in every hosptial over the planet there a people in comas hooked up too life support who have no brain activity yet can still listen to converstations and have memory of them upon waking. Does that sound like a person who should die?
Thats a terrible comparison. As you pointed out an egg isn't fertilised and thus I wouldn't be killing anything. And no, I don't eat chicken fetus.
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fLIP...there is no brain at that point, that take a lot longer in the process to develop.
but fLIP memory does not define consciousness. Just because I don't remember being born, or the first day at home doesnt mean I was not conscious and aware.
When we talk about aborted fetus generally and yes there are exceptions, we are not talking about a life, the fetus can not live outside the womb and therefore is not a living thing, it is a part of the females body.
You have to remove the image in your head of a bouncing baby and understand what it is at that point.
And despite your personaly distaste in it, it is not your decision to make if say I wanted to have an abortion if my partner was pregnant, how is it your right, or your decision to take that decision away from me?
This is democracy and by taking away peoples right to choose and having the government control us and the choices we can make, you no longer have a democracy but instead you have a dictatorship,
That is my fundamental dislike for this kind of lobby and governement legislation, the right is mine to choose not for you to take away the choice for me
