Our Toughest Opponents Next Season - The Refs

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  1. BrendonStarr

    By:BrendonStarrDec 4, 2018
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    We got penalised many times last year when we had our opposition ambushed in their own 20 late in the tackle count. The refs freaked out and thought no, this cant be allowed to happen in this day and age, and blew the whistle because of our over enthusiasm and utter and complete dominance at the time. We werent off side, we werent slowing down the play the ball, guilty of nothing but good old fashioned team ambush Manly style play. This is just one example (out of many different scenarios) where we were blatantly disadvantaged by the refs relentlesly throughout the season.

    How do we turn the tables for next season and defeat this?
     
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    • mave

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      It wasn't just a Manly thing last year. This scenario happened a lot to us, and others.

      Refs were simplu poor all around.
       
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        By:BrendonStarrDec 4, 2018
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        And that final game against the Broncos. Although we played poorly for the most part, when we finally started gaining some momentum and were dominating the Broncos towards the end for an extended period, and were actually a real chance to spoil their home semi party - All of a sudden we get hammered by the refs with several questionable calls to save the Broncos!

         
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        • Eagles2nv

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          Archer has been demoted, which clearly shows the reffing was sub par last season.

          That penalty-a-thon did more harm then good.
           
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          • The Wheel

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            Until it is our turn in Toddlers playbook we just have to suffer
             
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              History has proven that great teams defy all adversity and prevail . When you are good enough you are virtually unbeatable and will defy all the odds and beat the teams and the refs .

              Our toughest opponent is ...... Our selves !!!
              Mind set is everything and a never say die winning attitude is where it all starts

              How bad do we want the win . How much are we prepared to give and how far are we prepared to go and get that win .

              We will not accept our destiny from the bounce of the ball or the hands of the refs . Our destiny will be determined how we bounce back up from the challenges and adversity that we will face in the game .

              I say fck the refs . and fck all the excuses that any one that can come up for us losing a game .

               
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                Need to concentrate on playing footy and if done properly, will take the ref out of the game - really down to winning the play ball.
                At times when the going gets tough it may appear a team is picked on....and when its the team we support- becomes far worse
                How ??
                When the energy is down and an attacking player is turtled onto the back, but does not fight to play the ball....the defender will have latitude.....to go with this pattern a player who has no support becomes an easy target and will be controlled and slowed down more, as 1-2 defenders becomes 3-4 giving the defence control and time in the wrestle/ tackle - Manly suffered off both these areas with the ball.
                Defensively it’s almost opposite - due to soft contact the Manly defensive line is bent almost every tackle and the opposition attacker often wins the contest....this puts pressure on the ref to be constantly on the straggling defender to release as the tackle is not in control.....unfortunately this is another Manly issue in recent times.
                There was a game or 2 we seemed unfairly penalised for shooting up with pressure, but these type of things you need to recover and not drop heads like the Manly of late.
                A total rort like the 2013 GF is worth complaining, but in general, the ref can become an excuse....good Attitude, effort and winning that ruck area will take care of the whistle.
                 
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                  Excuses are comfort zones for losers

                   
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                    I think first and formost some players need to let the Captain do his job and move away from the ruck and say nothing.

                    I get that they are frustrated , and I cannot blame them BUT the refs are like little princesses, they get offended easily.

                    Cherry is pretty good at keeping calm but what he doesn’t need is players going off in the background.

                    Watch the master ( Scam) at work, yep we all know he’s protected but that’s how you do it.
                     
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                      Attitude is everything . Very hard to win against men that are possessed .
                       
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                      Discipline is our toughest opponent. Stop antagonizing the Refs by backchatting :wait:

                      Learn the rules and play by the rules; learn to adapt to the game day Refs and STFU :lightbulb:

                      Watching the 2011/2 Rorters game underlined this very strategy.
                      The blatant Ref errors were accepted as just another aspect of the match.
                      Manly went on with the mission to get the match points instead of arguing with an unchangeable Ref call :nod:
                       
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                        Simply do what Easts do.
                        Pay them off.
                         
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                          unless you get penalised for being possessed
                           
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                            The biggest penalty is caving in adversity
                             
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                            Spot on - the refs simply freak out with any style of play that doesn't fit in their nice comfortable game management model. Aggressive defence in the other teams 20 zone is the main example - when was the last time a team was forced to kick on the last from in or around their 20? Maybe only in the GF, when the roosters were smart and realised the refs would be reluctant to over penalise, so they smashed with impunity.
                             
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                              That home game against the Gold Coast last year...still makes my blood boil. When we were well on top, and the ref mysteriously went off with a hamstring strain...then his replacement blew 9 penalties against us in a row, and sent two players to the bin... that was the most blatant example of a ref turning a game around. OK, so we couldn't tackle out wide to save ourselves, but still. That guy had an agenda.
                               
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                              • Ben

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                                When we start winning we will get the rub of the green. Simple as that.
                                 
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                                  More discipline and that will come with the crew back together.
                                   
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                                    Well said Ben !!!

                                    When youre down on your luck, You make changes and an effort to change your luck yourself. Winners make their own luck. You can change your situation if you try hard enough because there Is always going to be a solution to your problem if you want to find one.
                                     
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                                      Excuses suck
                                       
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