I'm still in the Aloiai camp tbh and think he's still got a lot to offer. His last two seasons haven't been great but he's been badly hampered with constant leg and shoulder problems. We saw what he was capable of in the Brookie Storm game. He's got a lot to prove, let's give him that chance, there's a real good player in there. With an injury free start to 2024 he could really surprise a lot of Silvertails on here.
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double hoops
First Grader
I seriously don't believe MAN would bring in anyone better. I wouldn't even say that Saifiti brother Knights are trying to off load is an upgrade. But that the media keep talking about Waddell like he's a prop. That's kinda concerning.
Not worth speculating too much on this especially understanding this is coming from the mole.
Will get excited when more evidence if any comes to light…
Will get excited when more evidence if any comes to light…
Real Deal
Reserve Grader
He is also a divisive figure and the words he said in 2022 caused many deep wounds for people!
To be fair to Josh. He copped a lot of stick here that was very regrettable and in my view way out of line and seemed to impune his faith and cultural background. He also received death threats - not from here, I might add - that would've been a terrible thing to deal with. I will be sorry he is gone, a good forward when fit. I think it is a mistake to let him go.
To be fair to Josh. He copped a lot of stick here that was very regrettable and in my view way out of line and seemed to impune his faith and cultural background. He also received death threats - not from here, I might add - that would've been a terrible thing to deal with. I will be sorry he is gone, a good forward when fit. I think it is a mistake to let him go.
He's had some ripper games for us but few and far between due to fitness.There is a good player in Josh but too many injuries have cruelled seeing that. We just can't continue the risk on players who are constantly battling injury and that does include T.T.
Jeez you might yet prove to be right.........
Ned
Bencher
He was good last year, when he played, was very average this year, again when he played. I wouldn't be sad to see him go necessarily, just depends on who we get as a replacement. Our recruitment still isn't great, they just got Waddell back ffs, they're probably trying to get Nate Myles out of retirement to replace oshay.
Jake at Lock can't continue. There's no mobility , creativity or leg speed with jake.
Scorpio
Armchair Expert
On nearly $1m a season the uncomfortable truth is that he's on massive overs too.
Jake was part of the double deal or sweetener for Tom to sign on long-term. He has his brother to thank for his 900k a season.
How could you not forget the squasher, to memory, one great game at Brookie, went berserk on the opposition forwards and sadly this was all she wrote.
Hard not to agree with you're assessment mick, it's Oshays last chance salon in 24. Tommy, different matter, he's taken on mythical proportions with a lot of Silvertails on here with cherished thoughts of 2021. I don't know, it's ok to have dreams isn't it.
ManlyTragic
Bencher
That’s interesting!…. I heard it was Gary Winter!
joshcooper123
Member
look at my post on the Schuster article one because I agree with you with ur comment but there is no one on the market or even for next year who can play that role that we need.
Ryan
Journey Man
Jake is absolutely not a lock - he adds absolutely nothing in attack, and is possibly (and I'm not exaggerating) the slowest player in the entire NRL. He's a defensive forward, and adds plenty of leadership and inspiration.Needs to be at prop.
Siebold played Aloiai at lock, and thats absolutely stupid as well, and showed an absolute lack of depth. With a lack of depth, we need specialist playing their specialist positions.
Croker at 9 doesn't work either. In the 4 years he's done it full-time, we've come 11th, 12th, 15th and 4th. We need someone with x-factor and explosive leg speed at 9 in today's game, but we've re-upped him, so it'll all be more of the same. Still in a sling, and won't be able to train for quite some time.
People talking about how fantastic Lodge will be don't get it. He's done his ACL. He's a bulky, lumbering player already - he's not speed and agility. IF he doesn't have any setbacks, we'll get him part way through the season, and he won't be match fit.
Then people talk about Paseka. Another player coming off long term injury, they think that is magically going to not only hit the ground running, but improve.
If Corey Waddell has been brought in as a full-time player - well, we've been through this disaster before.
Hope I'm very, very wrong. I got howled down like crazy for suggesting we'd finish 12th-15th this season, and well, here we are. With most rosters improving their rosters, (and ours have in the backs too), I don't see much else changing.
Siebold played Aloiai at lock, and thats absolutely stupid as well, and showed an absolute lack of depth. With a lack of depth, we need specialist playing their specialist positions.
Croker at 9 doesn't work either. In the 4 years he's done it full-time, we've come 11th, 12th, 15th and 4th. We need someone with x-factor and explosive leg speed at 9 in today's game, but we've re-upped him, so it'll all be more of the same. Still in a sling, and won't be able to train for quite some time.
People talking about how fantastic Lodge will be don't get it. He's done his ACL. He's a bulky, lumbering player already - he's not speed and agility. IF he doesn't have any setbacks, we'll get him part way through the season, and he won't be match fit.
Then people talk about Paseka. Another player coming off long term injury, they think that is magically going to not only hit the ground running, but improve.
If Corey Waddell has been brought in as a full-time player - well, we've been through this disaster before.
Hope I'm very, very wrong. I got howled down like crazy for suggesting we'd finish 12th-15th this season, and well, here we are. With most rosters improving their rosters, (and ours have in the backs too), I don't see much else changing.
I agree that whilst Jake is a solid prop he does not have the attributes a lock needs in the modern game.
LeonardCohen
Bencher
It’s all just a matter of opinion but I actually think Jake’s lack of leg speed means we can’t afford to play him at prop. We need leg speed over the ad line to get us forward during our yardage sets and Jake is not great at this. When he plays lock, he can play 80 and tackle anything that moves in the middle of the field. When we’ve got the ball, we can use his clever passing game (which means less of his ineffective running game) to push the ball from the middles to the halves on either side. It worked well in the Raiders demolition in Canberra this year.
The less of those slow lumbering runs the better. The longer he is on the field keeping the middle tight, the better.
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