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NSW attack

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Napper, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Napper

    Napper Well-Known Member

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    Snake- never got a chance to do what he does well by having quality halves playing direct with him sweeping round the back and using his pace putting his winger and centre in a good position to score. He was ineffective due to pearce and carney giving him no choice but to let the ball go too early and decoy runners using poor lines making it a walk in the park to QLD defence.

    T-Rex - Proved he will never be a basic 'hold the ball and run straight' type. What he has going with Foran is where he will succeed as more of a hole runner but with his power and size makes it look easy. More of a Beaver than Choc type. But Beaver could do the tough stuff too.

    Surely Sticky would have rathered use them to their strengths.


    Pearce - Can tackle and that is all he offers

    Farah - Easily our best hooker option. He was the only guy who looked like creating something.

    I hope Sticky has coached his last Origi. He did the passion side of things right but lets face it, i havnt seen a set play for 3 years.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. SeaEagleRock8

    SeaEagleRock8 Sea Eagle Lach Staff Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    That is my thought too. His selections and use of interchange are also way over my head, maybe he knows what he's doing but I sure don't.
     
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    • The Indian

      The Indian Well-Known Member

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      Our lack of structure in the halves kills us in Origin. There are few other options so I know why they pick them but Carney and Pearce are just not up to it. Carney has been the most over hyped player in the league for years...sadly Pearce is heading that way too.

      The use of T Rex in this series was terrible....just throw him the ball flat footed and hope for the best. If he was a QLD'er Thurston would have him 1 of 1 with defenders at the advantage line...for us he is one out, flat footed and with 4 and 5 defenders to beat.

      I dont blame Stuart..think he is best bloke for the job...but our halves cant get it done.
       
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      • MK Eagle

        MK Eagle Well-Known Member

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        Agree Snake was not used to full capacity though smart play from Farah utilised his blinding acceleration with that grubber with Inglis out of position.
        The halves Carney & Pearce were caught playing lateral footy due to Qld defenders having an alarmingly long time dominating the tackled player. If theres an area the halves were caught out it was more defensively imo with Carney in particular targetted by Inglis & co.
        The NSW attack got into a rut of going sideways, lacking the direction of game 2 where they bashed Qld even with ball in hand. Last night it was almost hot potato footy to try wear the Qlders down which provided 1/2 opportunities but not long term viability.
        As for Stuart - thought he got the team up for all 3 games & done ok.
        Though all my respect for Des is gone, would give him the NSW SOO reins in 2013.
         
      • Kiwi Eagle

        Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        No need to change the coach IMO

        Look at NSW 2 years ago when Bellamy had them, and look at where they are now, they are light years ahead of where Bellamy had them, and arguably played the better footy over the series

        Des is the only coach I would change him for
         
      • Chip and Chase

        Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        Pearce can tackle ??? I think his missed tackle count last night was something like 8 or 9.
         
      • Napper

        Napper Well-Known Member

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        Last night was horrendous but his defence is usually solid.
         
      • EagleRock40

        EagleRock40 Well-Known Member

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        He was terrible. That miss on JT cannot be made at Origin level. Has probably played his last game for NSW.
         
      • Napper

        Napper Well-Known Member

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        You'd hope so but he will be there next season i bet.
         
      • clontaago

        clontaago Well-Known Member

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        I'd like to see him gone as he was poor, we need a halfback who can kick a ball further than 30 metres.

        However, do we have a better option? Im not sold.
         
      • Napper

        Napper Well-Known Member

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        7 Soward
        6 Bird **edit, if not Bird, Hayne?

        Carney and soward are level in defence. Soward has the best kicking game in the comp and offers more in attack than him and pearce. Surely this would be an option worth looking at for 2013.
         
      • Brookie

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        i'm Qld but reckon NSW need to drop pearce.

        maybe a halves pairing of either glenn or greg at 5/8 and carney at 1/2?
         
      • torana355

        torana355 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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        I will get slammed for this but i think Hasler would be a great NSW coach. **puts on flamesuit**
         
      • AshfieldBazza

        AshfieldBazza Active Member

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        Yeah Hasler can coach NSW and hopefully the Bulldogs crash in a heap during the Origin period but Dessie doesn't give up coaching Origin due to his pride of been able to handle the load of doing it all
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        Pearce has to go, I'd rather try again with Wallace than have Pearce again. Has been given his chance has played 8 straight Origin games so it's not like they haven't given him a go at it.

        I think Carney should go again next year, Qld protected Lockyer for years can't NSW do something similar in defence??
         
      • Sheikheagle

        Sheikheagle Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        The cupboard is pretty bare but I agree that Pearce has to go they have stuck with him and the majority of the time he fails to deliver. Assuming they stick with Carney what's wrong with Jeff Robson he is a bit of a journeyman but he wouldnt let you down.

        The other option would be partnering Campese with Carney assuming he doesnt get anymore injuries and hits the ground running next year.
         
      • The Who

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        You have all identified our weakeness: NSW doesn't have a half or five-eighth in the same class as do Queensland. I also believe that our bench selection was wrong. We had just two specialist props, and seven backrowers. We needed Woods on the bench instead of Creagh, and to start Lewis in the second row.
        Perhaps next year we could play Carney at halfback (what other option is there?) and Bird back at five-eighth. He would certainly do the job there and has won MOM awards at five-eighth. Tariq Simms would come in for Scott.
         
      • NFN2IT

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        Am i the only one who believes we should stick to our current spine if not majority of the team too?

        I agree maybe pearce hasnt really stamped his athority in the origin arena but look who is his opposite, JT and/or Cronk would make any half/5-8 in the comp look ordinary!

        And when you think about it we bashed QLD in game 2 very solid effort, and we came within 2 points of winning the trophy in game 3 last night compared to what happen last year id say that is definitely signs of improvement. I honestly dont believe we played so bad last night QLD were just better(especially in the kicking department) but that doesnt mean we cant improve, Carney was IMO showing signs of improvement aswell.

        I honestly think changing the team around AGAIN would be a step backwards, a big reason QLD has been so successful is because the combinations have stayed in tact no matter how good or bad the individuals have performed in club land.
         
      • 2830 Eagle

        2830 Eagle Aim low, reach your goals, avoid disappointment

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        Adrian will be happy oday
         
      • Rambo1987

        Rambo1987 Well-Known Member

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        Wallace has been leading the Broncos this year andwould have been my choice at half.
        Carney only has to do one thing good and everyone loves but he isnt up SOO level but 5/8's bare. Apart from his pass to Snake and goalkicking last night he didnt really do much.
        I like Mullen when in form and with Bennett pulling his strings maybe a better choice next year but time will tell.
         
      • ManlyBacker

        ManlyBacker Winging it Staff Member

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        Pearce has been dreadful all series and last night it was as though he wasn't there. We will have the beginning of next year to see if he can improve but he doesn't look up to it.

        Our attack went up a notch when Lewis went on. Can't understand why he had such little time. The killer ref calls were two penalties for slow tackles when they both seemed innocuous to me in comparison to every other tackle in the game.

        We got close through some brilliant individual play. But overall Qld were better and a 1 pt win is probably right. Happy to see Petro go out like that but I wish the rest of the population up there discover that XXXX causes infertilty.
         

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