News: Hopoate may leave NRL to become a missionary

[Rex]

Someone get him a copy of this

I have read that book and it really upset the "believers".

In the fair dinkum department they tell kids when they are 9 or 10 santa is not real so why do they persist with this "god" stuff.

Why do they persist with this God stuff? What's your criteria?

Physical health? People who follow the religious mandates of the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) have been found to have death rates from cancer and cardiovascular disease of about half of the general population.

Happiness? Who's happiest? Are you sure teenagers following the Mormon health codes and beliefs (abstinence from alcohol, smoking, etc) are less happy than typical modern teenagers who often become addicts or alcohol bingers?

Inner Peace? Until you've practiced surrender how do you know it provides less inner peace than following your current beliefs?

Ultimate truth? - Even Dawkins admits he can't be certain there's no God. More interesting than theories about ultimate truth are where does belief in God lead, and where does belief there is no God lead? And where does pure open-mindedness on the subject lead?

The Dawkins book became very popular because it is an atheist saying exactly what self-identified atheists want to hear. Does his attack on the churches weaken the churches? Make up your own mind. Amazon reckons the phenomenon of Dawkins' God Delusion book led to increased sales of religion and spirituality books by 50% and of the bible by 125%.

Will Hopoate appears very grounded. Who are we to be certain that his beliefs haven't been helpful for him.

 

[Berkeley_Eagle]

I'm not really into this religious stuff but a question why cant he go on a mormon mission say when he is 30 or so

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Someone get him a copy of this

I have read that book and it really upset the "believers".

In the fair dinkum department they tell kids when they are 9 or 10 santa is not real so why do they persist with this "god" stuff.

Why do they persist with this God stuff? What's your criteria?

Physical health? People who follow the religious mandates of the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) have been found to have death rates from cancer and cardiovascular disease of about half of the general population.

Happiness? Who's happiest? Are you sure teenagers following the Mormon health codes and beliefs (abstinence from alcohol, smoking, etc) are less happy than typical modern teenagers who often become addicts or alcohol bingers?

Inner Peace? Until you've practiced surrender how do you know it provides less inner peace than following your current beliefs?

Ultimate truth? - Even Dawkins admits he can't be certain there's no God. More interesting than theories about ultimate truth are where does belief in God lead, and where does belief there is no God lead? And where does pure open-mindedness on the subject lead?

The Dawkins book became very popular because it is an atheist saying exactly what self-identified atheists want to hear. Does his attack on the churches weaken the churches? Make up your own mind. Amazon reckons the phenomenon of Dawkins' God Delusion book led to increased sales of religion and spirituality books by 50% and of the bible by 125%.

Will Hopoate appears very grounded. Who are we to be certain that his beliefs haven't been helpful for him.

Rex I don't want to upset you but I must say I have grave doubts that you really exist. I think you might just be a forum concept

 

[Dan]

Dawkins does not admit he doesn't really know. He is very very very clear on that point, he believes he knows whole heartedly that there is no god

 

[Rex]

Chapter 4, "Why there almost certainly is no God"

 

[Captain Moondog]

I drink therefore I am.

 

[Rex]

Rex I don't want to upset you but I must say I have grave doubts that you really exist. I think you might just be a forum concept

SER8, yeah, me too. You've read a bunch of letters on your computer screen and formed a concept about me. And I've read Marcus Aurellius, formed a concept of him, and he died almost 2000 years ago. Did we meet? Do we?

 

[Manly Daly]

I know there is no God, otherwise that call wouldnt have happened last saturday night !!!

 

[Thehill]

I'm just really upset God made me an Atheist...

 

[codewana]

I've got nothing against god... its his fan club I can't stand.

Atheism is a non-prophet organisation.

 

[Rex]

Good luck to Hoppa if he chooses the mission. But "the next big thing" in NRL and 2 year Morman missions don't seem to mix. His uncle fitted into this category before his mission and now can't get past NSW Cup. And Joel Rapana had a similar experience:

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/missionary-man-rapana-set-for-titans-comeback-20110507-1ed6r.html