Mini Not Guilty

[Jethro]

I don't understand that decision. Dugan was knocked senseless and had a decent split in his melon, so it would have been difficult to argue no high contact.

It appears the technicality was that he was charged with "striking" which infers intent. They argued successfully against that and the charged was overturned. He couldn't then be charged with high tackle or contact to the head. That lacks common sense from the judiciary, but it seems the NRL judiciary is run along the lines of common law, where common sense and technicalities mean jsutice is not always served.

We have refs that are bordering on incompetent and now the match review commitee stuff up. It's not the judiciary's fault - they can only adjudicate on the charge as it's written and Mini's counsel only have to defend what he's charged with, not what he should've been charged with.

As C & C said, he was charged with "X" - not guilty. They can't then say we'll charge you with "Y".

Yes, the law's an ass sometimes.

Maybe in the future they will start multi-charging the accused (probably another Manly Player) so that they can end up with a guilty verdict of some description so that then they will be able to hang them.

 

[Jethro]

I don't understand that decision. Dugan was knocked senseless and had a decent split in his melon, so it would have been difficult to argue no high contact.

It appears the technicality was that he was charged with "striking" which infers intent. They argued successfully against that and the charged was overturned. He couldn't then be charged with high tackle or contact to the head. That lacks common sense from the judiciary, but it seems the NRL judiciary is run along the lines of common law, where common sense and technicalities mean jsutice is not always served.

We have refs that are bordering on incompetent and now the match review commitee stuff up. It's not the judiciary's fault - they can only adjudicate on the charge as it's written and Mini's counsel only have to defend what he's charged with, not what he should've been charged with.

As C & C said, he was charged with "X" - not guilty. They can't then say we'll charge you with "Y".

Yes, the law's an ass sometimes.

Maybe in the future they will start multi-charging the accused (probably another Manly Player) so that they can end up with a guilty verdict of some description so that then they will be able to hang them.

 

[StuBoot]

Pretty simple really.
Ask the Ref.
Q - What he was sent off for?
A - Attacking the head of an opponent
Leave it up to defence to mount their case and the judiciary to administer.
Same goes for on report too, why leave it up to a third party to determine the charge.
How would the ref feel that sent him off ? They cop crap when they don't sent guys off and then the system makes a mockery of them if they do.
I only play park football ( soccer ), if you're sent there's a send off code
and you get a week no matter whether you deserved to be sent or not. At least back the ref on things like this.

 

[StuBoot]

Pretty simple really.
Ask the Ref.
Q - What he was sent off for?
A - Attacking the head of an opponent
Leave it up to defence to mount their case and the judiciary to administer.
Same goes for on report too, why leave it up to a third party to determine the charge.
How would the ref feel that sent him off ? They cop crap when they don't sent guys off and then the system makes a mockery of them if they do.
I only play park football ( soccer ), if you're sent there's a send off code
and you get a week no matter whether you deserved to be sent or not. At least back the ref on things like this.

 

[The Who]

Pretty simple really.
Ask the Ref.
Q - What he was sent off for?
A - Attacking the head of an opponent
Leave it up to defence to mount their case and the judiciary to administer.
Same goes for on report too, why leave it up to a third party to determine the charge.
How would the ref feel that sent him off ? They cop crap when they don't sent guys off and then the system makes a mockery of them if they do.
I only play park football ( soccer ), if you're sent there's a send off code
and you get a week no matter whether you deserved to be sent or not. At least back the ref on things like this.

Very sensible. Like most 'innovations' in RL in recent years they have made the system too complicated trying to get 'perfection'. That's why we have problems with two refs, the video ref, and interpretations such as shepherd. Things should be simplified, or dumbed down so we can understand them.

 

[The Who]

Pretty simple really.
Ask the Ref.
Q - What he was sent off for?
A - Attacking the head of an opponent
Leave it up to defence to mount their case and the judiciary to administer.
Same goes for on report too, why leave it up to a third party to determine the charge.
How would the ref feel that sent him off ? They cop crap when they don't sent guys off and then the system makes a mockery of them if they do.
I only play park football ( soccer ), if you're sent there's a send off code
and you get a week no matter whether you deserved to be sent or not. At least back the ref on things like this.

Very sensible. Like most 'innovations' in RL in recent years they have made the system too complicated trying to get 'perfection'. That's why we have problems with two refs, the video ref, and interpretations such as shepherd. Things should be simplified, or dumbed down so we can understand them.

 

[Rex]

If a person is charged with murder, and that isn't proven, then he can still be found guilty of say manslaughter. Not even a need for a new trial.

Not exactly rocket science.

 

[Rex]

If a person is charged with murder, and that isn't proven, then he can still be found guilty of say manslaughter. Not even a need for a new trial.

Not exactly rocket science.