mass exodus !!!!
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eagles2win
Bencher
Ryan said:
Play in the Cyril Connell, Mal Meninga and Fogs Cups. Equivalent to Harold Matts, SG Ball and A grade.
The problem with what your suggesting Ryan is this : the SCSE eventually want to be in the NRL as the SCF (original name - Sunshine Coast Falcons) so it would be a short term solution to a long term problem.
Not this expansion round but the next time they'll roll the dice.
It would seem from what has been reported that our major problem with our lower grades is money based. We can't match it all over the field with some of the bigger clubs so we pick & choose a smaller number of guys that we think have the potential to go on to being good NRL players & we run with that, surrounding them with cheaper average guys who are a bit iffy. Works well if you have a good scouting dept. (Which Manly obviously does) but you would be at constant risk of bombing out if your guys on the ground made the wrong calls. Seems to have worked for us so far.
Something like this would be why the SCSE deal was so good. We supply 6 or so blokes to go up & carve up the comp while they supply the supporting cast.
Something like this would be why the SCSE deal was so good. We supply 6 or so blokes to go up & carve up the comp while they supply the supporting cast.
eagles2win said:
Guns!!? Roosters u20 have won 5, lost 4 & drawn 1. Yes they may well beat us by 30 on Sunday but if two players from each team can kick on and be pushing for or playing first grade in a couple of years time then what's the difference?
The Roosters 2004 Flegg team (old u20's) was undefeated and led by Jamie Soward
This was the team in the Grand Final:
Sam Perrett
McConkie Tauasa
Jermaine Ale
Albert Hopoate
Michael Lett
Jamie Stoward (c)
Peter Taylor
Grant Millington
Michael Burns
Luke Fatnowna
Danny Williams
Heath L'Estrange
Ray Moujalli [amusing - 8 yrs later and he's really kicked on!]
Reserves: Peewee Moke, Frank Winterstein, Troy Malcolm, Luke Gordon, Willam Tupou, James Shillington (two to be omitted).
Only a small number of an exceptionally successul team kicked on to consistent 1st grade success. My point being that having a successful junior team involves luck or importing a lot of players which costs money. With some careful selection you can have an average team but still have 2 or 3 first graders graduate.
willstyles
Bencher
Man, I remember Jermaine Ale. That kid was meant to be the king. I think he played like 5 games for Canberra and then chucked in the towel.
MK Eagle
Bencher
Its always good to see the Seaeagles competitive in all grades but lets be honest - the NRL is the real deal with daylight 2nd.
Even with ordinary results there will be a trickle of quality players who kick on like Taufua has.
Theres 3-4 players in this years TC cup who have shown promise even when pumped by a lopsided scoreboard.
Same with NSW cup not travelling super, but theres adequate fill ins when required.
All said & done if we remain dominent in the top grade with the sysem the club is using in recent times, its good enough imo.
Even with ordinary results there will be a trickle of quality players who kick on like Taufua has.
Theres 3-4 players in this years TC cup who have shown promise even when pumped by a lopsided scoreboard.
Same with NSW cup not travelling super, but theres adequate fill ins when required.
All said & done if we remain dominent in the top grade with the sysem the club is using in recent times, its good enough imo.
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
Most games 20s kickoff with family & friends watching and the crowd slowly dribbling in by halftime in 20s you may have 1/4 of the crowd in by full time 1/2, ppl are really not that interested in going that early to watch 20s, most ppl that go to the game these days meet at the leagues club for a catch up & a couple of drinks then head to the ground
Central Coast Eagle
Reserve Grader
The Eagle said:
What did cliffy say?
Masked Eagle
Bencher
Couldn't care less about the results in the lower grades. Its not about winning its about development. Maybe getting hammered each week helps toughen them up for when they get through to first grade. Its also a lot easier in finding out players individual weaknesses if they are coming up against much stronger opposition and the smart players will work on it and get better, the ones that don't shouldn't make it to first grade anyway.
For the good of the game itself I think the IC needs to redo the entire junior system anyway. Its plainly obvious some of the clubs with large juniors are butchering talent and thats not good for the game long term.
For the good of the game itself I think the IC needs to redo the entire junior system anyway. Its plainly obvious some of the clubs with large juniors are butchering talent and thats not good for the game long term.
Yes...wonder if he has a sister called Mini?bob dylan said:Bradza said:
Danny Weidler reports:
"....And I'm hearing reports today that long-term Sea Eagles supporter, since about the time of the Bears demise anyway, Ryan (place surname here), has defected to the Bulldogs to be closer to his guru and life coach Noel Cleal, plus his bessy winger Dessy Hasler...."
Berkeley_Eagle
Current Status: 24/7 Manly Fan
That's 2 players now
TRex $600k
Darcy $400k
More money saved
TRex $600k
Darcy $400k
More money saved
It is a frustrating aspect of the current NRL that successful clubs get stripped of talent. Particularly when they are local juniors or players we have nurtured into top grade.
I get the feeling that for the next couple of years we will have a strong but ageing top team, but the depth will be increasingly untried youngsters or the odd cheap journeyman pick-up.
I can live with that, but it is something the IC should look at because it detracts from fans' identificatuion with a club when the playing personnel are frequently changing sides.
I get the feeling that for the next couple of years we will have a strong but ageing top team, but the depth will be increasingly untried youngsters or the odd cheap journeyman pick-up.
I can live with that, but it is something the IC should look at because it detracts from fans' identificatuion with a club when the playing personnel are frequently changing sides.
The Who
Journey Man
Does that '12 ' in your name represent your age or your IQ?
Of course Manly would have liked to keep Darcy, T-Rex, Whare, Hoppa Jrn, Robbo et al but there is only so much money to go around. Or perhaps you'd rather us follow the Storm's flexible cap policy?
Our recruitment and retention team has given this club great success over the past few years. Or are you better than them at their job?
Of course Manly would have liked to keep Darcy, T-Rex, Whare, Hoppa Jrn, Robbo et al but there is only so much money to go around. Or perhaps you'd rather us follow the Storm's flexible cap policy?
Our recruitment and retention team has given this club great success over the past few years. Or are you better than them at their job?
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6 | 3 | 2 | 38 | 7 |
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6 | 3 | 3 | 37 | 6 |
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6 | 3 | 3 | 16 | 6 |
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6 | 3 | 3 | -13 | 6 |
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5 | 2 | 3 | -15 | 6 |
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6 | 3 | 3 | -36 | 6 |
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