Post-Game Discussion Manly V Sharks [Round 27, 2024]

[BOZO]

Sea Eagles fall to Sharks in last home game

Down but not out....the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles will experience finals footy for the first time since 2021 next weekend.

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No thanks feathered friend
It breaks my Manly heart reading about falling Eagles 🙁

 

[Dan]

That’s the influence of the Soup man that does that!!

That's the influence that makes my wallet cringe

 

[Captain Moondog]

The Swan Valley brewery was “ Duckstein “ , I even bought four of their beers for another day.

I had a mate who used to buy bottles of port and hide them in the garden when he was pissed so he'd forget where they were.......he'd get really excited when he found one a couple of weeks later.

 

[Eagle thru 'n' thru]

Well I’ve been slurping wines in the Swan Valley , just to the east of Perth.

Ended up at a German Beerhouse for lunch , a pork knuckle ( giant one ) and the typical German fare in the middle of the table between the 4 of us old farts there, we are all pretty full.

Ended up drinking some German pilsner served to us by a beautiful young German lass ( backpacker ) , very low cut top and the pork knuckle wasn’t the only thing that was giant.

My fishing mate & I had to get one of the wives to drive home.

Oh and yes there was a footy game , I did follow the scores until half time and guessed it would become a rout.

Rocks & diamonds , that’s the issue with this team although as @LeonardCohen has stated , we simply won’t win every game and against the better sides we probably won’t be good enough.

But we’ve made the finals , so that’s a decent improvement on 2023.

And who knows we might even had a win to get to week 2.

Anything is possible.

I was at the Margret River Chocolate factory yesterday, then Keller's Farm for lunch.

 

[Dan]

Obviously reflects the aggravation and annoyance this team manages to produce in all of us.

Reflects on overidge charges

 

[Lloyd]

Don’t agree. I was at the game and we DID not turn up. Playing 5 mins of hard footy is not ‘turning up’. And I also don’t agree that the wins we’ve had were irrelevant. We’ve played some great footy this year at times including last week. Our problem is that it’s one week off one week on. No consistency. Yes Cronulla were way too good today. They ran harder, tackled harder and generally did everything way quicker - except for the first 5 mins. Last week we played like that for pretty much the whole game. So that’s why people get on here and vent - because we see potential but we see coaching staff that can’t access that potential consistently. I don’t think it’s got anything to do with how much people do or don’t know about footy.

I’m somewhere in between both views. We’re great on the front foot but when an arm wrestle happens, which is 90% on the time in semis and big games we don’t have the forwards to go with other teams. We are simply to immobile in the forwards. I think the frustration, with me anyway is we have as good a backline as any team but let’s be honest, how many of our fowards would be making the other top teams forward pack? Pastels, ola. Who else?

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I was at the Margret River Chocolate factory yesterday, then Keller's Farm for lunch.

We did the Chocolates first up this morning.

 

[Nordburg]

16 minutes for Bullemor today,against a team with a few nibble,quick forwards.Interesting tactic by Seibold

 

[Rorz]

When Seibold at the press conference said the bleeding obvious that the other team were to good.Is this narrative acceptable!
We’d prefer to hear a coach talk with defiance not reluctant acceptance.
With a near capacity crowd the fans deserved much better than the performance that was displayed today.All the supporters deserve an apology especially the fans who have travelled far and wide spent their hard earned dollars,they must think was that expense worthwhile.Its inexplicable.

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

16 minutes for Bullemor today,against a team with a few nibble,quick forwards.Interesting tactic by Seibold

Yeah, I was really disappointed with the forward rotation today. Both Bully and Burbo brought some energy when they got on the field, but the game was basically over.

 

[BOZO]

When Seibold at the press conference said the bleeding obvious that the other team were to good.Is this narrative acceptable!
We’d prefer to hear a coach talk with defiance not reluctant acceptance.
With a near capacity crowd the fans deserved much better than the performance that was displayed today.All the supporters deserve an apology especially the fans who have travelled far and wide spent their hard earned dollars,they must think was that expense worthwhile.Its inexplicable.

NRL FOX...
Sea Eagles choke with home final on the line as Sharks silence sell-out crowd: What we learned​

The Sea Eagles have capitulated with a home final on the line to be thrashed by the Sharks 40-20 at a sold-out Brookvale Oval.

Manly had everything to play for - a sixth-placed finish that would see them return to Brookvale next weekend - but they folded like a deck chair.
It means they’ll now face the Bulldogs in their elimination final next Saturday in front of an expected 60,000 fans at Accor Stadium.

Cronulla had nothing to play for on Sunday as they couldn’t move from fourth on the ladder, but you wouldn’t have known it and their attack looked red hot.

Craig Fitzgibbon’s men are looking in sizzling form on the eve of finals as they look to break their September dry spell which dates back to 2018.

Cronulla has delivered an estimated $1 million bonus to the NRL after Sunday’s 40-20 defeat of Manly at Brookvale Oval.

The result means Canterbury will host a home final instead of Manly.

The extra 35,000 to 40,000 fans who will turn up at Accor next weekend to watch the two teams play will bank the NRL much more than a sold out 17,000 crowd on the northern beaches.
The Cronulla victory wasn’t just good news for the game’s governing body, but for Sharks fans.

Going to Brookvale Oval to win is a tough task and it was a good warm-up for next weekend’s qualifying final against the Storm in Melbourne.

Despite Sunday’s professional performance in front of 17,384, the Sharks will still be flying under the radar.

Cronulla opened the scoring in the fourth minute when Nicho Hynes looked up and saw an overlap.

The Sharks just let it sing across the backline for a simple try in the corner to Sione Katoa.

One of the only bright moments from Manly came in the 11th minute after a step, dummy and swerve by Tolutau Koula got him in behind the Cronulla line and his flick pass to Tommy Talau to score was the cherry on top.
“This is a very good move to set up Talou,” Fox Sports commentator Cooper Cronk said.

But the Sharks won the day with a good team performance.

The Sharks backrowers Briton Nikora and Teig Wilton were damaging all game.

Nikora bagged a second half double and had three offloads and two line breaks.

Wilton also made two-line breaks but was put on report for a hip drop tackle in the opening minutes and will have a nervous wait in the coming days.

Sharks back Jesse Ramien was put on report for a high shot on Karl Lawton in the 55th minute.
Fans were stunned that he wasn’t sin-binned for the tackle.

It was a poor performance by Manly considering a win would’ve guaranteed them a home final next weekend.
They had no excuses however.
They completed better and had more ball down the Sharks end of the field.
The biggest issue was they missed 41 tackles compared to just 16 by the Sharks

 

[Tslog]

Bad coach, bad - overrated halves, & too many mediocre players.

DCE did hardly anything in attack. & brooks keeps doing attack wrecking short balls and trying to look stylish doing it. That difference in attacking quality was staggering and DCE and Brooks had a lot to do with that. Hazelton looked better than both Manly halves with ball in hand - embarrassing.

You look at all the player movement list and Manly is getting no one good mostly because DCE is robbing us of all that needed spending money.

 

[Tomay]

So much dumb play when Croker and Jake form the centre of your team for the majority of the game. Love the effort they put in but they really come up with some stupid plays.

 

[Rocky]

I went to the game today and took some family who had never been. I'm not sure they will buy that Manly jersey after that!

Cronulla are just a professional side. They are fast and well-drilled. Manly, on the other hand, are gamblers. They are good when they have the "hot hand," but they are poor when they don't.

I've been one of Croker's biggest supporters on here but the fact that Simpkin looks better than him is telling..and Simpkin is not exactly the next coming of Harry Grant.

Next week will be tough with a Dogs team that has been embarrassed lately. And let's not forget the NRL will want them to win.

 

[joeboy]

Croker and Jake are the bumbling/clumsy/careless elephant in the room.

Barely just toilers these days. We could have one of them in (Jake) and would be better balanced than having 2 tackle bots

Croker is just mainly woeful. Jake tries and cares but is blunt as all hell and does not have a $900 000 impact on a game - any game

 

[Mals]

Worst defeat of the season.
We are a completely different side without Turbo, even though Koala played well.
DCE had an ordinary match. Brooks ditto. Jurbo looking like he's running in quicksand.

I didn’t think Koula played well at all. He never threatened the ruck in the middle of the field, stood one side all the time in attack and died with the ball. Hoppa as a fullback is streets ahead of him already and knows how to create space for his outside players.

 

[Go manly]

I had a mate who used to buy bottles of port and hide them in the garden when he was pissed so he'd forget where they were.......he'd get really excited when he found one a couple of weeks later.

You been looking over my fence captain
I don’t suppose you saw where I put the orchy bottle

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Bad coach, bad - overrated halves, & too many mediocre players.

DCE did hardly anything in attack. & brooks keeps doing attack wrecking short balls and trying to look stylish doing it. That difference in attacking quality was staggering and DCE and Brooks had a lot to do with that. Hazelton looked better than both Manly halves with ball in hand - embarrassing.

You look at all the player movement list and Manly is getting no one good mostly because DCE is robbing us of all that needed spending money.

You do realise that he’s now one of the lesser paid half backs in the game.

The 1.3 a year finished last year.

 

[TJ55]

Bad coach, bad - overrated halves, & too many mediocre players.

DCE did hardly anything in attack. & brooks keeps doing attack wrecking short balls and trying to look stylish doing it. That difference in attacking quality was staggering and DCE and Brooks had a lot to do with that. Hazelton looked better than both Manly halves with ball in hand - embarrassing.

You look at all the player movement list and Manly is getting no one good mostly because DCE is robbing us of all that needed spending money.

How long is DCE contracted to? As someone neutral who watches every Manly game it’s interesting hearing more and more people these days question the pay packets of Jake etc, I truly wonder how long DCE intends to play for surely he’s done with origin

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Their dummy half and backrowers killed us. Not coincidentally the positions where we are weakest.

Yes their dummy half carved us up several times. I guess a combination of Manly not slowing the play enough to get markers in position, and their hooker being a smart operator. Sharks had us stretched a lot of the time.

Didn't expect that scoreline but I did think Sharks have been widely underrated, both here and in the media.

We need another couple of decent forwards to go to the next level. Is Jack Williams still off contract?