I think it’s both sadly.
Post-Game Discussion Manly V Dragons [Round 7, 2025]
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Oops…definitely till penn , spoon are gone and Tom and Jake are put on a new deal that will allow us to buy some good young forwards . We also need an owner like uncle nick…hands on , passionate, self made billionaire . Make no mistake nick is the real reason the roosters are successful and they will taste success again next year with a spine of teddy, dce, Robson and walker.
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Yeah, you're right 47's, rd 9bye. Maybe rd 10 is when we start our comeback 🤞
manly al
First Grader
No question committed effort defensively but probably one of the worst attacking displays that i have seen from a Manly side in a ist half .
That probably proved the difference despite some improvement in the 2 nd half .
Not too sure the reason , maybe confidence level down a bit , poor positioning , hard to reconcile one of the real strengths earlier on with completion rates and relatively good co ordinated attack dropping off so much .
Not too many positives , utilizing Lehi better at times one of them and was some ticker in defence but can "t win those type of games unless the attacking plays and structure can be at a required level .
Can only assume the inclusion of Faulalo was to cover for a couple of backs carrying injuries .
Losing Jake and Bully had to have a detrimental effect and not sure again why Bully comes on so late in a i st half .
Mixed game from D C E but that covering effort to thwart a very likely Dragons try , 2 point field goal attempt and a couple of important tackles and that kick for Saab would not seem to indicate that he has clocked off
Doubt if Haumole will have an off game like last night any time soon , T K O was solid .
Just too disjointed in attack recently and just have to find a way to win these VERY winnable games .
Side probably needs some time off to freshen up a bit and try to reset, defence does not seem to be the main deficiency , just to start to click and get the timing right in attack again
That probably proved the difference despite some improvement in the 2 nd half .
Not too sure the reason , maybe confidence level down a bit , poor positioning , hard to reconcile one of the real strengths earlier on with completion rates and relatively good co ordinated attack dropping off so much .
Not too many positives , utilizing Lehi better at times one of them and was some ticker in defence but can "t win those type of games unless the attacking plays and structure can be at a required level .
Can only assume the inclusion of Faulalo was to cover for a couple of backs carrying injuries .
Losing Jake and Bully had to have a detrimental effect and not sure again why Bully comes on so late in a i st half .
Mixed game from D C E but that covering effort to thwart a very likely Dragons try , 2 point field goal attempt and a couple of important tackles and that kick for Saab would not seem to indicate that he has clocked off
Doubt if Haumole will have an off game like last night any time soon , T K O was solid .
Just too disjointed in attack recently and just have to find a way to win these VERY winnable games .
Side probably needs some time off to freshen up a bit and try to reset, defence does not seem to be the main deficiency , just to start to click and get the timing right in attack again
Darknstormy
Reserve Grader
The big question is are the Trbojevics willing to take huge cuts which I don’t think they will..Jake is worth no more than 500k and Tom well what’s a player who is injured every year and derails the team worth…in my opinion not much so he might as well go and brother Ben needs to be dropped from top 30…as for Dce I am glad he is going the inconsistent overpaid giraffe he is….everybody needs to move on from the Dce Tom Jake delusion….it failed plain and simple
Brookie1973
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I think the top and bottom are fairly close together, so that should make it easier.
GrahamHughesHairHat
Reserve Grader
My humble observations...
*Despite the slowing down and zero penetration Jake provides , I think he is an important cog in the team, especially in defence. Needs to have forwards around him that provide impact.
* SE lack leg speed in the forwards in both attack and defence.Opposing forwards march down the field too easily . Bullemore is the only exception, imagine 2 or 3 of his type!
*We are back making the mistakes , that have plagued us over the years , giving opposition multiple shots in our 20.Not seeing out our sets and finishing with a tactical kick.
PS...if Tommy Tissue returns just in time to leave us for 3 weeks for Origin then I will be then 100% off him...Respect for SE and ur team mates and the Fans.....fck Origin..
- DCE definitely carrying an injury, since the back issue, Brooks has done majority of tactical kicking and kicks for touch.He has lacked the impact which I think is being misread as lack of interest.
- We have a pack of forwards , who do have go, try hard but other then a few, are not top grade standard.
*Despite the slowing down and zero penetration Jake provides , I think he is an important cog in the team, especially in defence. Needs to have forwards around him that provide impact.
* SE lack leg speed in the forwards in both attack and defence.Opposing forwards march down the field too easily . Bullemore is the only exception, imagine 2 or 3 of his type!
*We are back making the mistakes , that have plagued us over the years , giving opposition multiple shots in our 20.Not seeing out our sets and finishing with a tactical kick.
- In attacking formation, the backs all are flat and not moving until they have the ball in their hands. Compared to the top and better coached teams that are all moving with pace, bodies in motion, everyone providing something to that play.
- DCEs defence is found out when we play teams that are prepared to attack his side with pace. Garrick usually cops the blame as he is caught trying to cover DCEs lack of pace , or running up out of the line.
- Siebold I had faith in, but am slowly getting to the point where I see no change from the rubbish we provided against the Storm, No ideas? Not up to it, will be determined over the next month.
- Lastly wtf is our defensive coach, we have been vulnerable every time a team gets into our 20, usually resulting in tries. Sts last night were terrible but their defence was mostly organised and effective. Effort is lacking and a defensive pattern seems non existent
PS...if Tommy Tissue returns just in time to leave us for 3 weeks for Origin then I will be then 100% off him...Respect for SE and ur team mates and the Fans.....fck Origin..
Interesting reading Indeed and I appreciate your great effort post .
I agree with most of your views. I personally do not have faith in Seibold leaking ship
I have feeling it will totally sink before his contract expires
Just one question . What is the meaning behind your Graham Hughes hair cut ?
Jim Dymock is in charge of 'Team Defence' and in my opinion, he is failing in his duties and either needs help or he should be replaced.
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The '47ers
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Sea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.
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NRL Judiciary Report: Sipley referred straight to judiciary
Sea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.
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Sea Eagle 4 Life
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Straight to the judiciary??? WTF.Sea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.
NRL Judiciary Report: Sipley referred straight to judiciary
Sea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.
Every other hipdrop tackle gets 1 or 2 weeks. With a Manly player - straight to the judiciary & probably 4 - 6 weeks.
Thanks again NRL.
The Who
Journey Man
Apparently there is no such thing as an accident in the NRL these days.
It is also lost on the NRL that the ball carrier is far less likely to be hurt than the tackler. Almost all the bad head knocks happen to the tackler, yet the rules concentrate solely on a tackle above the shoulders.
It is also lost on the NRL that the ball carrier is far less likely to be hurt than the tackler. Almost all the bad head knocks happen to the tackler, yet the rules concentrate solely on a tackle above the shoulders.
Sea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.
The Manly forward was sent to the sin bin for the tackle on Mat Feagai in the 53rd minute at 4 Pines Park, with the Dragons winger helped from the field by two trainers.
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Does anyone know if he has 'Dangerous Contact' history?
The Manly forward was sent to the sin bin for the tackle on Mat Feagai in the 53rd minute at 4 Pines Park, with the Dragons winger helped from the field by two trainers.
| OFFENCE | GRADE | 1ST OFFENCE | 2ND OFFENCE | 3RD OFFENCE |
| (Early plea in brackets) | (Early plea in brackets) | (Early plea in brackets) | ||
| Dangerous Contact | 1 | $1500 ($1000) | $2500 ($1800) | 2 matches ($3000) |
| 2 | 2 matches (1) | 3 matches (2) | 4 matches (3) | |
| 3 | 3 matches (2) | 4 matches (3) | 5 matches (4) |
NRL Judiciary Report: Sipley referred straight to judiciary
Sea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.
www.nrl.com
NRL Match Review & Judiciary Charges: 2025 NRL Round 7 » League Unlimited
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Does anyone know if he has 'Dangerous Contact' history?
That's the 'Manly Loading' being applied.
This is what I foundSea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.
The Manly forward was sent to the sin bin for the tackle on Mat Feagai in the 53rd minute at 4 Pines Park, with the Dragons winger helped from the field by two trainers.
OFFENCE GRADE 1ST OFFENCE 2ND OFFENCE 3RD OFFENCE (Early plea in brackets) (Early plea in brackets) (Early plea in brackets) Dangerous Contact 1 $1500 ($1000) $2500 ($1800) 2 matches ($3000) 2 2 matches (1) 3 matches (2) 4 matches (3) 3 3 matches (2) 4 matches (3) 5 matches (4)
NRL Judiciary Report: Sipley referred straight to judiciary
Sea Eagle Toafofoa Sipley has been referred to the NRL Judiciary on a Dangerous Contact charge following his side's loss to the Dragons.NRL Match Review & Judiciary Charges: 2025 NRL Round 7 » League Unlimited
Does anyone know if he has 'Dangerous Contact' history?
2023 Season (Round 9), Sipley was charged with a Grade 2 crusher tackle on Gold Coast Titans player Phillip Sami during a match. As it was his second such offense, he accepted an early guilty plea and received a three-match suspension, avoiding a potential four-match ban if he had contested and lost at the judiciary.
2024 Pre-Season (Week 1), Sipley faced a Grade 2 crusher tackle charge for an incident involving Roosters winger Dom Young during a trial match. Young was hospitalized for precautionary scans due to a neck injury. Sipley’s prior record contributed to the severity of the charge, and he accepted an early guilty plea, resulting in a three-match suspension. Contesting the charge could have led to a four-match ban.
2022 Season (Round 10), Sipley was charged with dangerous contact, resulting in a $1,000 fine. No suspension was issued for this incident
I don’t understand the hip drop. Sipley went in and tackled him across the chest, bounced off, and found himself around the waist. All this happened in a split second.
How was he supposed to avoid this? How can you possible realise you’ll end up in a hip drop situation when going for a ball and all tackle?
How was he supposed to avoid this? How can you possible realise you’ll end up in a hip drop situation when going for a ball and all tackle?
Bomb Voyage
Reserve Grader
he can go for the season though, that would be a good thing to force change, dont moan about that.
I hope he does, it's going to be hit or miss from the Schu.
With both players virtually in a falling motion, can't see Sipley being charged for this.
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