Could be that the new disrupter penalty is making players standoffish about contesting bombs.
Manly - Top 8
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Saab is good at defusing bombs but not as good at catching our attacking ones.
DCE usually offers something of an attacking kick, look at his last game - he set up two tries with perfectly judged kicks for Jake and Saab (v saints).
Disruptor Round has been and gone.
StuBoot
Bencher
I don't think so, they're on a run at the moment but with SOO3 still to come they'll be missing at least two, maybe three of their best players ( no more byes) and they'll need to back up too.
They'll be running on empty soon enough.
Yeh they got an easy draw, only playing the Panthers, Storm and Rorters once, where Manly got the Panthers and Rorters twice.
Watching the Sharks their forwards are not dominating the games like they have, Royce Hint got them over the line against the Donkeys, since then for me they are not winning this area like the way they were earlier on this season, lost four of their last five games.
The draw will see them make the eighth, though it’s questionable if they make the top four.
I feel like it is their 3rd straight year of having a good draw too.
I think it's fear of giving away a penalty and losing the territory battle.
JT and Fittler spoke about this last night after the Fat asked the same question
Response was field position and getting defence ready for tackle 3-4-5
Idea is take catcher easy then get tackle 2 hit up with minimal players and defence then set for next three
Response was field position and getting defence ready for tackle 3-4-5
Idea is take catcher easy then get tackle 2 hit up with minimal players and defence then set for next three
Do clubs still nominate who they wish to play twice for financial reasons to attract gate money. Used to nominate 3 teams to play twice
If that is still in play , teams decide some of that
Melb and bronx traditionally picked weaker teams to play twice as winning was more important than cash and derbys
If that is still in play , teams decide some of that
Melb and bronx traditionally picked weaker teams to play twice as winning was more important than cash and derbys
How do they even work out the draw, is it the standings from last season, going on how a team went against top 8 teams from last season ?.
The Who
Journey Man
No. The NRL uses the same method Donald Trump uses.... making it up as they go.
There is no scientific base used. First they try to comply with all the special requests from clubs, such as Manly giving up its home match to Brisbane (Thankfully that has ended), then they throw the figures into a computer (run by a Canadian outfit, I believe), then shuffle this initial draw around so that Brisbane gets as many Friday night matches as possible and other clubs have a minimum number of five-day turnarounds, take into consideration ground availability, SOO disruption, the fact that teams don't play one another twice...
Frankly, it's an achievement a draw ever gets finalised. But the schedule is never fair for all teams. Some cop a tough draw, others (like Cronulla this season) a soft draw.
I think the best solution is to have two conferences (based on geography) of nine (when we have an even number of contenders). A club plays all other teams in its group twice, but clubs in the other conference only once. The top four clubs from each conference qualify for the final series.
It was years ago,odds and evens on last seasons finish
Then a financial model was introduced where teams allocate who they want to play twice, not guaranteed
Now unsure if that dial has moved again
@The Who and @jbb/james you are both correct. In the wash up though I don't think a good team like the Panthers worry about this and the unfair draw usually benefits the pretenders like the eels or Sharks. They will benefit for a while and then get done over anyway in the finals.
I do wish it was more transparent but I don't believe the AFL are transparent they just have more "feature" matches which are always locked in which leaves less fixtures for manipulation.
The conference system is best if we don't have 14 teams who play each other twice for 26 rounds.
The Panthers playing in Brisbane on a Friday night in the middle of origin is a pretty ****ty draw but they prevailed....again...
I just wished they did not allocate 2 points for the bye (or even had one) as the ladder is useless for 2/3 of the season. Pretenders like canberra have now dropped and cowboys moving upo as they start to get their byes late. We have been even in the draws hence why we have been yoyoing in and out of the 8.
Ryan
Journey Man
Question for possibly @Disco. Sorry to bother you with this one mate, but I often have mathematical dreams (sad, I know). Last night I had a dream about our "draw" scenario. Anyways, it's very rare that an actual "draw" occurs in a season. There has been one this season. There was one the season before. None the two seasons before that.
Given this, and the likelihood of us being the team (well, one of two) that scores an uneven amount of competition points, does that make our for and against relatively irrelevant?
On that basis, could you then change the teams systems / strategies and coaching to suit, that? We could have a plus minus of positive 950, or a negative of 950, and it would mean the same thing, right? Because we'd be sitting in between teams.
I know it's a weird question, but I'm a weird guy, with an inquisitive mind - what are yours (or anyone else's thought's?). Kind of means if we lose by 1, or lose by 100 each game, it's really no difference - same as wins of course.
Given this, and the likelihood of us being the team (well, one of two) that scores an uneven amount of competition points, does that make our for and against relatively irrelevant?
On that basis, could you then change the teams systems / strategies and coaching to suit, that? We could have a plus minus of positive 950, or a negative of 950, and it would mean the same thing, right? Because we'd be sitting in between teams.
I know it's a weird question, but I'm a weird guy, with an inquisitive mind - what are yours (or anyone else's thought's?). Kind of means if we lose by 1, or lose by 100 each game, it's really no difference - same as wins of course.
Once Was Brissie Kid
Reserve Grader
Per the NRL live table now with Dolphins winning last night & Cows & Raiders given 2 points for bye:
6. Dolphins 24
7. Cows 22
8. Manly 21
9. Knights 20
10. Dragons 20
11. Raiders 20
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6. Dolphins 24
7. Cows 22
8. Manly 21
9. Knights 20
10. Dragons 20
11. Raiders 20
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To an extent yes, F&A is unlikely to be a significant factor for us this year.
That said, obviously if the Warriors and ourselves finish on equal points in 8th (for example) than it is very significant and they are only 2 points off us atm.
Likewise is the unlikely event there is another draw.
Long story short I think our best course is to carry on BAU and to consider it important.
ManlyTragic
Bencher
Being on an odd number could help us psychologically in the later rounds. If we were heading into the last couple of rounds needing to up our f/a then the pressure is on the players to win by big margins. Instead, we only need to focus on just winning, not scoring a lot of points, just 1 more than the opposition.
Ryan
Journey Man
Good point, but statistically around 1% chance
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