Manly mayhem: The sorry state of the Sea Eagles

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A good read

BY JOHN DAVIDSON


IT'S ONLY two rounds into the 2021 NRL season, but with back-to-back defeats it's already looking like being a long, brutal year for Manly.

Smashed by the Roosters in round one, competitive but still beaten by Souths in round two, questions are being asked of the Sea Eagles. With a weak roster, some key players missing and others under-performing, and with stars departing you have to wonder where the relief will come in the future.

Des Hasler’s contract has been extended for two more years, and his status as a playing and coaching great at Brookvale is assured regardless of what happen next. But with the gap between the top and the bottom in the NRL seemingly growing year on year, Manly are in need of improvement in many areas.

Recruitment has been an issue on the northern beaches for some time. Too much of the Sea Eagles’ salary is invested in just a handful of players. No one would doubt the Trbojevic brothers are worth big money, both as world-class players and local juniors, but Tom’s injury problems have worryingly lingered.

Because of them, Manly have gone into another season without a proper replacement at fullback. Dylan Walker has been trialed there so far and failed badly. Considering his numerous off-field issues, both at his former club Souths and at the Sea Eagles, Dylan Walker has been a poor buy.

In contrast, the likes of Marty Taupau, Reuben Garrick and Moses Suli have been great recruits. Brad Parker is a solid performer and Taniela Paseka shows promise. There are some big wraps on youngsters John Schuster and the next Trobjevic off the rank Ben. But losing Addin Fonua-Blake was a major blow, and the experience of Joel Thompson hasn’t been replaced either.

The club let Blake Green go to the Warriors and released Kelepi Tangioa to Super League side Wakefield, where he has been tearing up trees. Liam Knight is another who has done well since exiting.

Then there’s the departure of Api Korisau to Penrith. Manly invested in Manase Fainu, in a move that has backfired terribly with the hooker’s church brain explosion. Korisau has since played a huge role in the Panthers becoming one of the best teams in the comp, and the Sea Eagles have gone into a second campaign without a seasoned, top-class available hooker or a fullback.

In other words, rugby league suicide.

The loss of Clint Gutherson, and partly Shaun Lane too, to Parramatta has left many scratching their heads. Since moving to the Eels ‘Gutho’, born and bred in Mona Vale, has become a bonafide NRL star. Yes, when he was coming through at the maroon and white he was competing with Brett Stewart and a young ‘Tommy Turbo’, and three into one fullback spot doesn’t compute. He also ruptured his ACL in 2015.

In a salary-capped sport you can’t keep all your good players. But considering how rare quality local juniors are on the northern beaches, and how Gutherson’s development has gone since, it is a departure that still burns.

Then there’s the signing of Kieran Foran this year. A brilliant player for the club in the past no one can argue, but is his injury-prone body still up to the task? His track record in recent times does not inspire confidence.

On the hooking front, Manly let Joey Lussick got to Super League in 2018. There he developed, helping his team Salford to get a grand final in 2019 and a Challenge Cup final last year. Lussick, originally from Freshwater, played so well that he has earned a deal at the Eels. The brother and father of ex-Sea Eagles Darcy and Jason could have filled a role at Brookvale.

As could have Matt Parcell, another hooker Manly let go to the UK, back in 2017. He went on to help Leeds win the Super League title. With their hooking stocks bare now, Hasler has been forced to play halves in the number 9 position in Lachlan Croker and Cade Cust.

You add it all together and there has been too many losses and not enough wins on the signing front.

While Canberra, Souths and Canterbury have dipped into the overseas market and picked up some bargains from the UK, the Sea Eagles have been caught asleep despite their rich tradition of bringing in English talent.

Over the decades Manly’s success has been built on a mixture of canny recruitment, especially from Queensland, England, New Zealand and country NSW, combined with some word-class players, great coaching, some tough workhorses and a handful of local juniors.

The Sea Eagles’ first premiership winning teams of 1972 and 1973? Built around Immortal Bob Fulton (who came from Wollongong), winger Ken Irvine (poached from North Sydney), John O’Neill and Ray Branighan (both signed from Souths), Graham Eadie, English pair Mal Reilly and Graham Williams, and local Manly product Terry Randall.

The grand-final winners of 1976? Built around the core of Fulton, Branighan, Eadie and Randall, along with English trio Steve Norton, Phil Lowe and Gary Stephens, and local products Max Krilich, Russell Gartner, Johnny Gibbs and Alan Thompson.

The 1978 winners? Made up of Branighan, Eadie, Randall, Gibbs, Gartner, Krilich, Thompson and Pommy John Gray.

The 1987 champions? Led by Queenslanders Paul Vautin, Dal Shearer and Chris Close, Ron Gibbs and Noel Cleal (both signed from the Roosters), Michael O’Connor (snapped up from the Dragons), Cliff Lyons (snared from Norths), Hasler (who came from Penrith), Pommy Kevin Ward and local Phil Daley.

The 1996 grand final winners? They had Lyons, Hasler, Kiwis Matt Ridge and Craig Innes, Mark Carroll (signed from Souths), David Gillespie and Jim Sedaris (both picked up from Wests), Queenslander Danny Moore and locals Geoff Toovey, Steve Menzies, Daniel Gartner, John Hopoate and Jack Elsegood.

The 2008 champions? Built around Menzies, and local juniors Anthony Watmough, David Williams and Jason King, as well as Kiwi Steve Matai, brothers Brett and Glenn Stewart from Wollongong, Queenslander Matt Ballin, Jamie Lyon (signed from St Helens), Matt Orford (who came from Melbourne), Michael Robertson (who came from Canberra) and Brett Kite (brought in from the Dragons).

The 2011 title winners? Again the core of Watmough, the Stewarts, Robertson, Lyon, Matai, Kite were essential, and paired with Queenslander Daly Cherry-Evans, Foran and local junior Will Hopoate.

There has been consistency and often a clear pattern, a formula to their successful roster management of the past. Allied to that has been their careful selection of coaches – all former Manly players who understand intimately the culture and DNA of the club.

It was Ron Willey in 1972 and 1973, Frank Stanton in 1976 and 1978, Bob Fulton in 1987 and 1996, and Hasler in 2008 and 2011. Willey went on to lead NSW, while both Stanton and Fulton had successful periods in charge of the Kangaroos.

In the Sea Eagles’ 74-year history they have only had 22 head coaches, and since Russell Pepperell in 1965 they have only appointed three coaches that hadn’t worn the maroon and white as players before – Graham Lowe, Peter Sharp and Trent Barrett. All had relatively brief spells at Brookvale and all didn’t win premierships.
Make of that what you will.

The old saying goes that only an ex-Manly player can survive in the Brookie hot-seat, navigating the factions and politics, and of course Hasler is an ensconced at the moment. But once he eventually moves on in the future, perhaps it is time to break that mold?

Or will ex-Sea Eagles like Chad Randall or Michael Monaghan, be shoe-ins for the job?
Some suggest the old boys mentality at the club has to change.

It isn’t just recruitment, roster management and coaching at the ‘Sivertails’ that has raised some eyebrows. The state of Brookvale Oval, now known as Lottoland, has been a concern of some time. Brookie is the club’s spiritual home and has long been in need of a major facelift. It is being worked on now, but it needs to be turned into a 21st century facility.

Manly lag in terms of average attendance, and sat in 14th spot in the 16-team competition with 11,267 in 2019. In terms of membership they are ranked this year a respectable ninth with 10,769, but that has decreased year by year since the high of 13,163 in 2017.

Off the field and Stephen Humphreys was hired as CEO of Manly at the end of 2019. Remarkably, and insanely, he is the 10th chief executive the club has had since 2002. That is just not good enough. The revolving door and blood-letting in the front office has to end.

Humphreys played for Balmain, has rugby league in his blood through his famous father and ran Wests Tigers for a time.

But he has a tough job on his hands. Dealing with Manly owners the Penn family, not to mention the ‘Mad Scientist’ Hasler won’t be easy.

Having owners who are based in New York is problematic. How can the club be run properly and effectively if Scott Penn is in the Big Apple most of the time?

And have the Penns put enough time and money into making Manly successful again? Many would argue they haven’t. The facilities and youth structures are crying out for investment.

The Sea Eagles don’t have a powerful leagues club backing them anymore and aren't boosted by pokie machine-produced dollars. This isn’t the 70s or 80s. They don’t have a Nick Politis or a James Packer bankrolling them.

Over the past five or more years a clear gap has developed at the top of the NRL food chain. Melbourne, Souths, the Roosters, Penrith and Parramatta are the elite in virtually all areas. Off the field Brisbane have it all, but their past few seasons on the pitch have been diabolical. In the nation’s capital Canberra are enjoying a golden run on the field after two lean decades.

In contrast since reaching the grand final in 2013, the Sea Eagles have made the finals three times in the past seven years.

After coming second in 2014, they have finished ninth, 13th, sixth, 15th, sixth and 13th.
It’s a return that is not exactly terrible, but not satisfactory either for a club of their history and pedigree.

Famously, Manly have never won a wooden spoon. It’s a fact Sea Eagles fans hold on to proudly.

But will they be able to hold on to that record much longer?
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This is a very accurate article about the predicament that we find ourselves in.

If you do not get your recruitment right, allow players to think they are bigger than the club, not deal with obvious blunders in allowing quality local juniors to leave and not stick with them is a recipe for the state we are in right now.

We fortunately have some talented young players and they are crying out for a chance. This is a time to be bold and give this youth a chance and time to move on the tried and tested failures that occupy too many positions in our first time.

This season we again see our Flegg and Matthews teams doing well and it is imperative that we invest in these young players so that we are not short of options.

When you see Verrils and Lussick at the Roosters when we are desperate for a hooker really makes no sense and a gun like Gutho now the best player at our greatest rivals highlights our recruitment shortcomings.

We are in this rut too because the club caved in and offered DCE an unrealistic deal in 2015 and its crippled our cap since.

That is the past, we cant change it, what we can change is building a team with the talented youngsters, moving on the failed players in getting in a few seasoned players like BK and build a team that has youthful exuberance and a boldness that Manly teams are famous for. Right now I see a team out of its depth, players being forced into playing out of a position and a coach who is not understanding the demands of the modern game and sticking with players who just don't cut it!

Our pedigree demands success and we can be back up there with shrewd recruitment and management from the club that encourages members to keep supporting the club and attract new ones. The club needs to modernize and we are so far behind some of our rivals, we need investment to build something sustainable. Hopefully we get the go ahead to give Brooky a face lift and make it a modern stadium which secures our future.

There is a lot or work to be done as the gap is getting wider between Manly and some of the top clubs.
 
The article doesn't really tell a Manly fan anything they didn't already know. It's really a combination of history lesson with the W & T from a SWOT analysis, and the odd factual error thrown in (it will be news to David Williams to find out that the Hills Bulls club is recognised as being in MWRFL junior territory by the author).

Ok - so Manly is one of a few NRL teams in Sydney competing for a slice of the Sydney/ NSW/National fan base. Brookvale / Lottoland has not kept up in terms of facilities - blame the local council and empty promises (mostly) from State & Federal MP's for that - that is not the club's fault.

Recruitment - noted; some players let go that we could use now. I don't know of a RL team that can't say that (notes Wests Tigers fans curled up in foetal positions sobbing). I can hear the recruitment & retention team saying, 'we'll try try do better next time sir, really we will'. Perhaps team balance and contingency planning needs to be better.

Membership - this is a multi-faceted issue with many, many potential solutions. Unleash ST's own Bozo onto an unsuspecting general population? It will make the news at least. In reality, if the core constituency of Manly fans / potential fans (the population living in the MWRFL junior areas) increasingly can't be bothered with our club or want to do something else, our club will probably die. I don't live in the area and never have, but it didn't stop me attending games, buying the merchandise, or even being a member of the Leagues Club and travelling a lot of kms for a schnitzel and some memories. I agree - having 10K or 11k of members, and contrasting that with the population on the Northern beaches is bleak. So what if they have other interests - find a way to reach them and cut through with a good call to action.

Ownership - the author does have a point here. The most consistently successful Sydney club is the Chooks, with the Bunnies perhaps a way back in 2nd. Arguments could be made for the Panthers. Citing Politiis and Packer - Easts and Souths - seems logical (though I'm sure James Packer is probably short of cash ATM and may be re-thinking the Souths thing). Perhaps we would feel better if we knew exactly what the Penns were doing to turn the club around to being a powerhouse again. The potential increase in amount of members - people who give a damn - may increase again. Just a thought.
 
I find it a bunch of dribble. The only real problem was the failure to cover manase and Turbo this year. All other recruitment has been fine in the last couple seasons and we have locked up some of the best young talent. If Fainu wasn't suspended and Turbo not injured we wouldn't be having this dribbling conversation and we'd be sitting pretty in the top 8. Its that simple, and add to that Des' blind loyalty to struggling players... BUT again this isn't a recruitment issue. Even the 9 and back up 1 aren't such a big recruitment issue, again its more Des' selections. Funa or Harper should have been Fullback form the start and Cust in the 17. Now we also have Lawton so again our recruitment is fine! Its injuries, suspensions and team selections that are the bigger problem!
 
I concur with the vast majority of the article but I still question the opt-quoted claim that Manly has a weak roster.
Do we?
I won't abide by this throwaway line until we see how guys currently not among DESpicable's favourites fare in First Grade. I'm talking about Harpo, Tyfuna, Sippers, Guaca, Tippytoes, Tenterfield, Burbo etc.
All of these players could conceivably replace current First Graders and prove successful.
What I do believe is that Manly has a weak team based of DESpicable's selections.
I just can't understand why an injection of young and enthusiastic players wouldn't improve our on-field results.
 
Yes blah blah.

The real issue is some clubs are forced into following the salary cap while others aren't. On paper we are all at our cap limit, but some how the Rooster and the Storm have quality cattle at basement prices.

Who are they kidding. Really it's a nonsense.
Perhaps, but clubs like Souffs, the 'Riff and the Faders -- even Doesn'tmatta -- are also miles ahead of us.
 
I don't think there is an old boys mentality with coaching. Manly doesn't have the flashiest facilities or the most support staff or the most money, so were not an attractive option for established coaches in NRL to jump ship to, unless they bleed Maroon and White

There are limited numbers of good coaches, it was a choice of either McGuire or Hasler to pick from. At the moment the only decent/regarded coaches I see as available now are Fitzgibbon or Cheat Flanagan.
 
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A good read

BY JOHN DAVIDSON


IT'S ONLY two rounds into the 2021 NRL season, but with back-to-back defeats it's already looking like being a long, brutal year for Manly.

Smashed by the Roosters in round one, competitive but still beaten by Souths in round two, questions are being asked of the Sea Eagles. With a weak roster, some key players missing and others under-performing, and with stars departing you have to wonder where the relief will come in the future.

Des Hasler’s contract has been extended for two more years, and his status as a playing and coaching great at Brookvale is assured regardless of what happen next. But with the gap between the top and the bottom in the NRL seemingly growing year on year, Manly are in need of improvement in many areas.

Recruitment has been an issue on the northern beaches for some time. Too much of the Sea Eagles’ salary is invested in just a handful of players. No one would doubt the Trbojevic brothers are worth big money, both as world-class players and local juniors, but Tom’s injury problems have worryingly lingered.

Because of them, Manly have gone into another season without a proper replacement at fullback. Dylan Walker has been trialed there so far and failed badly. Considering his numerous off-field issues, both at his former club Souths and at the Sea Eagles, Dylan Walker has been a poor buy.

In contrast, the likes of Marty Taupau, Reuben Garrick and Moses Suli have been great recruits. Brad Parker is a solid performer and Taniela Paseka shows promise. There are some big wraps on youngsters John Schuster and the next Trobjevic off the rank Ben. But losing Addin Fonua-Blake was a major blow, and the experience of Joel Thompson hasn’t been replaced either.

The club let Blake Green go to the Warriors and released Kelepi Tangioa to Super League side Wakefield, where he has been tearing up trees. Liam Knight is another who has done well since exiting.

Then there’s the departure of Api Korisau to Penrith. Manly invested in Manase Fainu, in a move that has backfired terribly with the hooker’s church brain explosion. Korisau has since played a huge role in the Panthers becoming one of the best teams in the comp, and the Sea Eagles have gone into a second campaign without a seasoned, top-class available hooker or a fullback.

In other words, rugby league suicide.

The loss of Clint Gutherson, and partly Shaun Lane too, to Parramatta has left many scratching their heads. Since moving to the Eels ‘Gutho’, born and bred in Mona Vale, has become a bonafide NRL star. Yes, when he was coming through at the maroon and white he was competing with Brett Stewart and a young ‘Tommy Turbo’, and three into one fullback spot doesn’t compute. He also ruptured his ACL in 2015.

In a salary-capped sport you can’t keep all your good players. But considering how rare quality local juniors are on the northern beaches, and how Gutherson’s development has gone since, it is a departure that still burns.

Then there’s the signing of Kieran Foran this year. A brilliant player for the club in the past no one can argue, but is his injury-prone body still up to the task? His track record in recent times does not inspire confidence.

On the hooking front, Manly let Joey Lussick got to Super League in 2018. There he developed, helping his team Salford to get a grand final in 2019 and a Challenge Cup final last year. Lussick, originally from Freshwater, played so well that he has earned a deal at the Eels. The brother and father of ex-Sea Eagles Darcy and Jason could have filled a role at Brookvale.

As could have Matt Parcell, another hooker Manly let go to the UK, back in 2017. He went on to help Leeds win the Super League title. With their hooking stocks bare now, Hasler has been forced to play halves in the number 9 position in Lachlan Croker and Cade Cust.

You add it all together and there has been too many losses and not enough wins on the signing front.

While Canberra, Souths and Canterbury have dipped into the overseas market and picked up some bargains from the UK, the Sea Eagles have been caught asleep despite their rich tradition of bringing in English talent.

Over the decades Manly’s success has been built on a mixture of canny recruitment, especially from Queensland, England, New Zealand and country NSW, combined with some word-class players, great coaching, some tough workhorses and a handful of local juniors.

The Sea Eagles’ first premiership winning teams of 1972 and 1973? Built around Immortal Bob Fulton (who came from Wollongong), winger Ken Irvine (poached from North Sydney), John O’Neill and Ray Branighan (both signed from Souths), Graham Eadie, English pair Mal Reilly and Graham Williams, and local Manly product Terry Randall.

The grand-final winners of 1976? Built around the core of Fulton, Branighan, Eadie and Randall, along with English trio Steve Norton, Phil Lowe and Gary Stephens, and local products Max Krilich, Russell Gartner, Johnny Gibbs and Alan Thompson.

The 1978 winners? Made up of Branighan, Eadie, Randall, Gibbs, Gartner, Krilich, Thompson and Pommy John Gray.

The 1987 champions? Led by Queenslanders Paul Vautin, Dal Shearer and Chris Close, Ron Gibbs and Noel Cleal (both signed from the Roosters), Michael O’Connor (snapped up from the Dragons), Cliff Lyons (snared from Norths), Hasler (who came from Penrith), Pommy Kevin Ward and local Phil Daley.

The 1996 grand final winners? They had Lyons, Hasler, Kiwis Matt Ridge and Craig Innes, Mark Carroll (signed from Souths), David Gillespie and Jim Sedaris (both picked up from Wests), Queenslander Danny Moore and locals Geoff Toovey, Steve Menzies, Daniel Gartner, John Hopoate and Jack Elsegood.

The 2008 champions? Built around Menzies, and local juniors Anthony Watmough, David Williams and Jason King, as well as Kiwi Steve Matai, brothers Brett and Glenn Stewart from Wollongong, Queenslander Matt Ballin, Jamie Lyon (signed from St Helens), Matt Orford (who came from Melbourne), Michael Robertson (who came from Canberra) and Brett Kite (brought in from the Dragons).

The 2011 title winners? Again the core of Watmough, the Stewarts, Robertson, Lyon, Matai, Kite were essential, and paired with Queenslander Daly Cherry-Evans, Foran and local junior Will Hopoate.

There has been consistency and often a clear pattern, a formula to their successful roster management of the past. Allied to that has been their careful selection of coaches – all former Manly players who understand intimately the culture and DNA of the club.

It was Ron Willey in 1972 and 1973, Frank Stanton in 1976 and 1978, Bob Fulton in 1987 and 1996, and Hasler in 2008 and 2011. Willey went on to lead NSW, while both Stanton and Fulton had successful periods in charge of the Kangaroos.

In the Sea Eagles’ 74-year history they have only had 22 head coaches, and since Russell Pepperell in 1965 they have only appointed three coaches that hadn’t worn the maroon and white as players before – Graham Lowe, Peter Sharp and Trent Barrett. All had relatively brief spells at Brookvale and all didn’t win premierships.
Make of that what you will.

The old saying goes that only an ex-Manly player can survive in the Brookie hot-seat, navigating the factions and politics, and of course Hasler is an ensconced at the moment. But once he eventually moves on in the future, perhaps it is time to break that mold?

Or will ex-Sea Eagles like Chad Randall or Michael Monaghan, be shoe-ins for the job?
Some suggest the old boys mentality at the club has to change.

It isn’t just recruitment, roster management and coaching at the ‘Sivertails’ that has raised some eyebrows. The state of Brookvale Oval, now known as Lottoland, has been a concern of some time. Brookie is the club’s spiritual home and has long been in need of a major facelift. It is being worked on now, but it needs to be turned into a 21st century facility.

Manly lag in terms of average attendance, and sat in 14th spot in the 16-team competition with 11,267 in 2019. In terms of membership they are ranked this year a respectable ninth with 10,769, but that has decreased year by year since the high of 13,163 in 2017.

Off the field and Stephen Humphreys was hired as CEO of Manly at the end of 2019. Remarkably, and insanely, he is the 10th chief executive the club has had since 2002. That is just not good enough. The revolving door and blood-letting in the front office has to end.

Humphreys played for Balmain, has rugby league in his blood through his famous father and ran Wests Tigers for a time.

But he has a tough job on his hands. Dealing with Manly owners the Penn family, not to mention the ‘Mad Scientist’ Hasler won’t be easy.

Having owners who are based in New York is problematic. How can the club be run properly and effectively if Scott Penn is in the Big Apple most of the time?

And have the Penns put enough time and money into making Manly successful again? Many would argue they haven’t. The facilities and youth structures are crying out for investment.

The Sea Eagles don’t have a powerful leagues club backing them anymore and aren't boosted by pokie machine-produced dollars. This isn’t the 70s or 80s. They don’t have a Nick Politis or a James Packer bankrolling them.

Over the past five or more years a clear gap has developed at the top of the NRL food chain. Melbourne, Souths, the Roosters, Penrith and Parramatta are the elite in virtually all areas. Off the field Brisbane have it all, but their past few seasons on the pitch have been diabolical. In the nation’s capital Canberra are enjoying a golden run on the field after two lean decades.

In contrast since reaching the grand final in 2013, the Sea Eagles have made the finals three times in the past seven years.

After coming second in 2014, they have finished ninth, 13th, sixth, 15th, sixth and 13th.
It’s a return that is not exactly terrible, but not satisfactory either for a club of their history and pedigree.

Famously, Manly have never won a wooden spoon. It’s a fact Sea Eagles fans hold on to proudly.

But will they be able to hold on to that record much longer?
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John Schuster?

Reuben garrick and suli great buys? Parker solid.. is this guy smoking a marijuana?
 
As others pointed out, there are some howlers in the article. But the broad theme is on the mark.

Until such a time (if ever) that we have a LC that can generate some sort of money to counteract the ‘centre of gravity’ around the Penn faction, I think this could be the ‘new normal’ for Manly.

When the dynamic tension existed between the Penns and other part-owners, things were good onfield. So I think we need a stronger counterbalance to the Penn influence, courtesy of some money from a leagues club. Not just the FC and it’s control over the name, colours, home ground, etc.

Hopefully the LC are still investigating options for their future, because in concert with a FC singing from the same sheet, we might avoid another 2014/15 scenario, which is still playing out.
 
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I don't think there is an old boys mentality with coaching. Manly doesn't have the flashiest facilities or the most support staff or the most money, so were not an attractive option for established coaches in NRL to jump ship to, unless they bleed Maroon and White

There are limited numbers of good coaches, it was a choice of either McGuire or Hasler to pick from. At the moment the only decent/regarded coaches I see as available now are Fitzgibbon or Cheat Flanagan.
NRL journos and reporters also do tend to be swayed by flashy facilities, perceived high-profile backing (and $$), and clubs with (they believe) close links to NRL headquarters. Apparently they see everyone else as annoying cannon-fodder that they feel obliged to include in a news report. The sycophantic reporting, bias and suck-ups to some players, ex-players, certain clubs and officials is blatant and nauseating.

It's perilously close to pantomime, sometimes. I occasionally think that the NRL would love Manly players to run out from behind a big curtain at the start of the game with villain mustaches painted on, while sound effect boos are heard in the background. Think 'The Great Race' , with Jack Lemmon and Tony Curtis, but with footballs.

It's increasingly like watching a soap opera every year, but with uniforms.
 
A good read

BY JOHN DAVIDSON


IT'S ONLY two rounds into the 2021 NRL season, but with back-to-back defeats it's already looking like being a long, brutal year for Manly.

Smashed by the Roosters in round one, competitive but still beaten by Souths in round two, questions are being asked of the Sea Eagles. With a weak roster, some key players missing and others under-performing, and with stars departing you have to wonder where the relief will come in the future.

Des Hasler’s contract has been extended for two more years, and his status as a playing and coaching great at Brookvale is assured regardless of what happen next. But with the gap between the top and the bottom in the NRL seemingly growing year on year, Manly are in need of improvement in many areas.

Recruitment has been an issue on the northern beaches for some time. Too much of the Sea Eagles’ salary is invested in just a handful of players. No one would doubt the Trbojevic brothers are worth big money, both as world-class players and local juniors, but Tom’s injury problems have worryingly lingered.

Because of them, Manly have gone into another season without a proper replacement at fullback. Dylan Walker has been trialed there so far and failed badly. Considering his numerous off-field issues, both at his former club Souths and at the Sea Eagles, Dylan Walker has been a poor buy.

In contrast, the likes of Marty Taupau, Reuben Garrick and Moses Suli have been great recruits. Brad Parker is a solid performer and Taniela Paseka shows promise. There are some big wraps on youngsters John Schuster and the next Trobjevic off the rank Ben. But losing Addin Fonua-Blake was a major blow, and the experience of Joel Thompson hasn’t been replaced either.

The club let Blake Green go to the Warriors and released Kelepi Tangioa to Super League side Wakefield, where he has been tearing up trees. Liam Knight is another who has done well since exiting.

Then there’s the departure of Api Korisau to Penrith. Manly invested in Manase Fainu, in a move that has backfired terribly with the hooker’s church brain explosion. Korisau has since played a huge role in the Panthers becoming one of the best teams in the comp, and the Sea Eagles have gone into a second campaign without a seasoned, top-class available hooker or a fullback.

In other words, rugby league suicide.

The loss of Clint Gutherson, and partly Shaun Lane too, to Parramatta has left many scratching their heads. Since moving to the Eels ‘Gutho’, born and bred in Mona Vale, has become a bonafide NRL star. Yes, when he was coming through at the maroon and white he was competing with Brett Stewart and a young ‘Tommy Turbo’, and three into one fullback spot doesn’t compute. He also ruptured his ACL in 2015.

In a salary-capped sport you can’t keep all your good players. But considering how rare quality local juniors are on the northern beaches, and how Gutherson’s development has gone since, it is a departure that still burns.

Then there’s the signing of Kieran Foran this year. A brilliant player for the club in the past no one can argue, but is his injury-prone body still up to the task? His track record in recent times does not inspire confidence.

On the hooking front, Manly let Joey Lussick got to Super League in 2018. There he developed, helping his team Salford to get a grand final in 2019 and a Challenge Cup final last year. Lussick, originally from Freshwater, played so well that he has earned a deal at the Eels. The brother and father of ex-Sea Eagles Darcy and Jason could have filled a role at Brookvale.

As could have Matt Parcell, another hooker Manly let go to the UK, back in 2017. He went on to help Leeds win the Super League title. With their hooking stocks bare now, Hasler has been forced to play halves in the number 9 position in Lachlan Croker and Cade Cust.

You add it all together and there has been too many losses and not enough wins on the signing front.

While Canberra, Souths and Canterbury have dipped into the overseas market and picked up some bargains from the UK, the Sea Eagles have been caught asleep despite their rich tradition of bringing in English talent.

Over the decades Manly’s success has been built on a mixture of canny recruitment, especially from Queensland, England, New Zealand and country NSW, combined with some word-class players, great coaching, some tough workhorses and a handful of local juniors.

The Sea Eagles’ first premiership winning teams of 1972 and 1973? Built around Immortal Bob Fulton (who came from Wollongong), winger Ken Irvine (poached from North Sydney), John O’Neill and Ray Branighan (both signed from Souths), Graham Eadie, English pair Mal Reilly and Graham Williams, and local Manly product Terry Randall.

The grand-final winners of 1976? Built around the core of Fulton, Branighan, Eadie and Randall, along with English trio Steve Norton, Phil Lowe and Gary Stephens, and local products Max Krilich, Russell Gartner, Johnny Gibbs and Alan Thompson.

The 1978 winners? Made up of Branighan, Eadie, Randall, Gibbs, Gartner, Krilich, Thompson and Pommy John Gray.

The 1987 champions? Led by Queenslanders Paul Vautin, Dal Shearer and Chris Close, Ron Gibbs and Noel Cleal (both signed from the Roosters), Michael O’Connor (snapped up from the Dragons), Cliff Lyons (snared from Norths), Hasler (who came from Penrith), Pommy Kevin Ward and local Phil Daley.

The 1996 grand final winners? They had Lyons, Hasler, Kiwis Matt Ridge and Craig Innes, Mark Carroll (signed from Souths), David Gillespie and Jim Sedaris (both picked up from Wests), Queenslander Danny Moore and locals Geoff Toovey, Steve Menzies, Daniel Gartner, John Hopoate and Jack Elsegood.

The 2008 champions? Built around Menzies, and local juniors Anthony Watmough, David Williams and Jason King, as well as Kiwi Steve Matai, brothers Brett and Glenn Stewart from Wollongong, Queenslander Matt Ballin, Jamie Lyon (signed from St Helens), Matt Orford (who came from Melbourne), Michael Robertson (who came from Canberra) and Brett Kite (brought in from the Dragons).

The 2011 title winners? Again the core of Watmough, the Stewarts, Robertson, Lyon, Matai, Kite were essential, and paired with Queenslander Daly Cherry-Evans, Foran and local junior Will Hopoate.

There has been consistency and often a clear pattern, a formula to their successful roster management of the past. Allied to that has been their careful selection of coaches – all former Manly players who understand intimately the culture and DNA of the club.

It was Ron Willey in 1972 and 1973, Frank Stanton in 1976 and 1978, Bob Fulton in 1987 and 1996, and Hasler in 2008 and 2011. Willey went on to lead NSW, while both Stanton and Fulton had successful periods in charge of the Kangaroos.

In the Sea Eagles’ 74-year history they have only had 22 head coaches, and since Russell Pepperell in 1965 they have only appointed three coaches that hadn’t worn the maroon and white as players before – Graham Lowe, Peter Sharp and Trent Barrett. All had relatively brief spells at Brookvale and all didn’t win premierships.
Make of that what you will.

The old saying goes that only an ex-Manly player can survive in the Brookie hot-seat, navigating the factions and politics, and of course Hasler is an ensconced at the moment. But once he eventually moves on in the future, perhaps it is time to break that mold?

Or will ex-Sea Eagles like Chad Randall or Michael Monaghan, be shoe-ins for the job?
Some suggest the old boys mentality at the club has to change.

It isn’t just recruitment, roster management and coaching at the ‘Sivertails’ that has raised some eyebrows. The state of Brookvale Oval, now known as Lottoland, has been a concern of some time. Brookie is the club’s spiritual home and has long been in need of a major facelift. It is being worked on now, but it needs to be turned into a 21st century facility.

Manly lag in terms of average attendance, and sat in 14th spot in the 16-team competition with 11,267 in 2019. In terms of membership they are ranked this year a respectable ninth with 10,769, but that has decreased year by year since the high of 13,163 in 2017.

Off the field and Stephen Humphreys was hired as CEO of Manly at the end of 2019. Remarkably, and insanely, he is the 10th chief executive the club has had since 2002. That is just not good enough. The revolving door and blood-letting in the front office has to end.

Humphreys played for Balmain, has rugby league in his blood through his famous father and ran Wests Tigers for a time.

But he has a tough job on his hands. Dealing with Manly owners the Penn family, not to mention the ‘Mad Scientist’ Hasler won’t be easy.

Having owners who are based in New York is problematic. How can the club be run properly and effectively if Scott Penn is in the Big Apple most of the time?

And have the Penns put enough time and money into making Manly successful again? Many would argue they haven’t. The facilities and youth structures are crying out for investment.

The Sea Eagles don’t have a powerful leagues club backing them anymore and aren't boosted by pokie machine-produced dollars. This isn’t the 70s or 80s. They don’t have a Nick Politis or a James Packer bankrolling them.

Over the past five or more years a clear gap has developed at the top of the NRL food chain. Melbourne, Souths, the Roosters, Penrith and Parramatta are the elite in virtually all areas. Off the field Brisbane have it all, but their past few seasons on the pitch have been diabolical. In the nation’s capital Canberra are enjoying a golden run on the field after two lean decades.

In contrast since reaching the grand final in 2013, the Sea Eagles have made the finals three times in the past seven years.

After coming second in 2014, they have finished ninth, 13th, sixth, 15th, sixth and 13th.
It’s a return that is not exactly terrible, but not satisfactory either for a club of their history and pedigree.

Famously, Manly have never won a wooden spoon. It’s a fact Sea Eagles fans hold on to proudly.

But will they be able to hold on to that record much longer?
https://www.patreon.com/rugbyleaguelongreads/posts?filters[tag]=Manly Sea Eagles

For me it’s a 50/50 article. Talks a lot of $hit but does have some valid points. Seems to be repeating a lot of what’s been in the media for a few years. Has no idea about why players were released etc. Is surmising as to the reasons without knowing facts. Not very convincing regarding certain subjects. Sounds to me he has something against Manly to be honest. We all know about most of what he’s written so nothing new really. To me he’s painting a picture which seems to be far worse than what is reality.
Anyway who is this guy???
 

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