IF and I say again IF I put on my tin foil hat, it could be well argued that this is part of the Bozo grand plan. Barrett fails and we have to install Bozo's son.
Manly Backing Barrett, For Now
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Like it or not we will probably get either Bozo or Brett, Ha$ler is a bridge too far and may have signed already an extension at Dogs.
Cleary might be an option but even he hasn't shown himself to be a superstar coach.
MadMarcus
Toovey for NRL CEO
I don't think it's fair to say Toovey "chose" Burgess. He didn't even want to sign Burgess in the first place.
http://www.triplem.com.au/sydney/sport/nrl/news/2015/3/toovey-wanted-gibbs-not-burgess/
MadMarcus
Toovey for NRL CEO
And Hasson is an Irish international ffs. You could hardly leave him out of the team.
I'm not prepared to look back at the Toovey years with Rose coloured glasses. Yes he is an absolute Club legend and all round nice guy, but Tooves continued selecting Hasson, and others when it could not be justified. Tooves had us running around with Haslers old play book and the defensive structure disappeared when the great Dalai disappeared and we have had no defensive structure since.
I do agree 100% that Toovey was better than Barrett, if only for his pedigree and passion.
I do agree 100% that Toovey was better than Barrett, if only for his pedigree and passion.
I take you back to the
2014 SF Against the DOGS ! NO Glenn Stewart, Matt Ballin, Anthony Watmough, Jamie Buhrer
We get beaten by a FG and an offside josh reynolds !
Toovey was doing fine !
I accept you and others will disagree with me and I respect that, but for whatever reason Tooves had lost the dressing room and was just going through the motions with tactics and game plans. The team fell in a complete hole in early August 2014 and one close loss won't change that fact.
i think every coach whos team is losing and has huge off field dramas will lose the dressing room ! Combining Gifty/Watmough/FOZ dilemmas !
I could be wrong ! Maybe he did need a break from the game !
But his ability to get up for the big games missing 5 KEY starting players aginst one of the best packs: DOGS, coached by Hasler !
You say its one game ??? Its a bloody very important game if you ask me !
Toovey did have some flaws, not drilling the team to finish off close matches ! Or maybe the players were at fault ! But i believe in due time these issues would of been corrected !
8 August 2014 Round 22 onwards
Round 22 – Lost to Souffs 23-4
Round 23 – Beat Gold Coast 15-12
Round 24 – Lost to Parramatta 22-12
Round 25 – Beat Penrith 26-25
Round 26 – Lost to NQL 30-16
Finals Wk 1 – Lost to Souffs 40-24
Finals Wk 2 – Lost to Canterbury 18-17
That's 2 narrow wins in 7 games.
2015 Season – 11 – 13
2016 Season – 4 – 9
So in Summary from 8 August 2014 we have won 17 games and lost 27 games for a winning margin of 39%.
It was announced on 28 August 2014 that Gifty had played his last game for Manly, but the players knew earlier than that. This Club has been stuffed since, so yes the problem is deeper than Toovey, but he had no chance of turning this around whilst ever the player old guard remained and that remains the case to this day.
http://www.zerotackle.com/surgery-ends-stewarts-manly-career-14671/#5UZ7cg0LmbzT5Gpe.97
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
Yes, yes it was. Very dominant player.
Terry Zarsoff
First Grader
And a decade's supply of handkerchiefs.
Ah yes Burgess... the player that Tooves didn't want at the club in the first place. We had a ton of props injured last year, Tooves didn't have much choice.
SoaringEagle
Reserve Grader
Couln't agree more, It frustrated me wen tooves would continuosly pick burgess, mason, and hasson.
NYEagle
Bencher
From what I remember Ralphie the players found out Gifty was gone for the year the night they played Parramatta.
I'd laughingly suggest they were told at halftime because after leading 10-0 they fell apart in the second half!
Both those wins were lucky too. If mickey mouse (Idris) didn't lose the ball with 4 minutes to go Manly would have lost by more than a try.
NYEagle
Ok that's it. It's medication time.
Loaded dog
Well used Member
The problem is - Trent had no idea what a "high Expetation" is...
I for one have high ExpeCtations...
Doesn't get any more profound than that does it?
Support??? What support?
Now I understand - we must be more ADAMANT!
How about last year? huh?
uh -oh!DEAN RITCHIE said:
“Trent’s fine. We are six months into a three-year contract, it’s very early days,” Penn said.
Now, Scotty, Didn't YOU expect a Miracle from TOOVEY??
To quote Joe Walsh - "OH YEAH!"
It's a fact. If he survives, he will have made it. But that is my years quota of "if's" used up.
The medication is for me Woodsie. I have to sleep tonight with that thought in mind.
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