Manly 2023 - Pass or Fail?
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totally agree
Be true to yourself mate. Apart from a few friends you owe them nothing
DUFFMAN
Bencher
Fail
I wasn't expecting to make the 8 but thought we would finish higher up then we will.
I don't understand how one week we can match it with the top 4 sides and the following week get embarrassed by a bottom 4 side, there is no consistency on the way we play.
A massive fail by the club is signing Schuster for $800,000.
He has being living off potential for years and seems to lazy to step up and deliver.
That money could have brought a lot better player with change left over.
I wasn't expecting to make the 8 but thought we would finish higher up then we will.
I don't understand how one week we can match it with the top 4 sides and the following week get embarrassed by a bottom 4 side, there is no consistency on the way we play.
A massive fail by the club is signing Schuster for $800,000.
He has being living off potential for years and seems to lazy to step up and deliver.
That money could have brought a lot better player with change left over.
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
but..but...but...premiership roster.
sheridanstand78
First Grader
Our season is a fail. Too many passengers, too many quality players long term injured.
We do not have the depth and our salary cap is too lopsided.
When will they understand that we need a running 9. We get no thrust out of dummy half and we get smashed in the ruck against the top teams.
We do not have the depth and our salary cap is too lopsided.
When will they understand that we need a running 9. We get no thrust out of dummy half and we get smashed in the ruck against the top teams.
IQofalimabean
Bencher
What was the point in sacking des hasler? whatever Hasler did in his last year was equal to or better than Seibold this year. At the end of the day the blokes in charge of calling the shots at manly didnt improve anything with the coach they selected.
Manly should cut their losses and give the nsw cup coach a crack at first grade. Any coach that can get the Manly nsw cup team firing must have something going for them.
Manly should cut their losses and give the nsw cup coach a crack at first grade. Any coach that can get the Manly nsw cup team firing must have something going for them.
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KNUCKLES
weights before dates
So much promise to start the year with only to end up with more of the same. Most dissapointng thing about it all, its the same speed bumps, same issues. Year in, year out, that sinks us. Yet another failed campaign. When will we learn as a club? But who do you blame? You can't blame the players and I can't even say safely yet we can blame the coach. In my opinion, it's a culture/professionalism problem. Starts from the very top. We need to cut the head off the snake til we see this club turn a corner for real.
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Yes but imo we should not accept that as an excuse… no pappy all year and Storm played some bad games but they still made finals comfortably with a bloke at FB that struggled to make 1st grade at the dogs!!
NYEagle
Bencher
Big time FAIL
No better than last year and that’s without a pride round. We have talent that is not performing, and some moderate players who try hard but are ineffective trying to do things themselves.
Outside of DCE who has been excellent as usual, this team has completely bombed.
Schuster a massive liability
Sipley, Koula, Paseka Tuipolotu, Saab have been inconsistent and disappointing this year probably because this team can’t play as a team. Ola has not been disappointing because he put the effort in, but like DCE can’t do it alone and he can’t make the impact he is capable of.
Parker, Jake, Garrrick and Croker who I consider our mid tier have been ineffective because they rely on star players to be star players so they can support them.
Only shining light this year has been Matt Lodge and Jake Arthur’s performance against the Warriors was encouraging. I think Burbo has made some progress this year. I also like Vaega but not sure about him defensively.
This team has to take a really strong look at themselves in the offseason, or we get 2022 or 2023 again. Ship Schuster out, so what if he ends up a start elsewhere, he does not belong in Gods Country.
NYEagle
No better than last year and that’s without a pride round. We have talent that is not performing, and some moderate players who try hard but are ineffective trying to do things themselves.
Outside of DCE who has been excellent as usual, this team has completely bombed.
Schuster a massive liability
Sipley, Koula, Paseka Tuipolotu, Saab have been inconsistent and disappointing this year probably because this team can’t play as a team. Ola has not been disappointing because he put the effort in, but like DCE can’t do it alone and he can’t make the impact he is capable of.
Parker, Jake, Garrrick and Croker who I consider our mid tier have been ineffective because they rely on star players to be star players so they can support them.
Only shining light this year has been Matt Lodge and Jake Arthur’s performance against the Warriors was encouraging. I think Burbo has made some progress this year. I also like Vaega but not sure about him defensively.
This team has to take a really strong look at themselves in the offseason, or we get 2022 or 2023 again. Ship Schuster out, so what if he ends up a start elsewhere, he does not belong in Gods Country.
NYEagle
Better than just a PASS.
This is an excellent team.
Well coached, with ruthless and well executed gameplans for all the opposition strengths.
There are probably a couple of very minor tweaks we could look to implement for next season, and hopefully this will see us playing finals in 2024.
This is an excellent team.
Well coached, with ruthless and well executed gameplans for all the opposition strengths.
There are probably a couple of very minor tweaks we could look to implement for next season, and hopefully this will see us playing finals in 2024.
Eagle thru 'n' thru
Reserve Grader
C-, failure, 45% if it was an exam.
WOKE is settling in, how can anyone be happy with this year is beyond me, from the coach to recruitment to tHE owner WOW. CALL it what it i? No crime in asking for a better effort, look at Schuster against warriors what a disgrace. $800k for that. All is dandy Not.
Thank you @robbie
Thank You for your courage , humility and accountability for saying it how it sadly really is
No Finals and We Fail
We fail our Proud Winning Great Manly Benchmark Standards
Mestrov /Seibold / Flanagan Failed to make the Finals
The Penn Manly Owned club continues to exist but Keeps Failing to Excel
Proud and Passionate Manly people Will Always support our Legendary club
But We will Never support those that cannot Live up to our Legendary clubs high Standards and who Lower our Great Clubs Magnificence down to their Mediocre levels
The hard truth is
If We Lower our Legendary clubs Great Standards
And We Stand for Nothing Great !
Ordinary Manly people make Excuses
Great Manly People Make our Legendary Manly club Great
God Bless Our Great Manly Premiership Winning Heroes
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TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
A trip to Vegas next year will make up for all that disappointment.
Whats the next gimmick? signing Lebron James to replace Shu?
Whats the next gimmick? signing Lebron James to replace Shu?
47MVEagle
Bencher
A very low pass, something like 51/100
We’ve shown signs of being capable against the better teams but have lacked consistency.
Other times there’s been what appears to be a lack of interest amongst some members of the playing group.
Injuries (apart from the obvious in Tom) have hit us hard late in the season (losing Paseka, Aloiai & Jake vs the Sharks & Lodge & Burbo vs the Roosters, as well as Parker).
I’m hoping we look a better-settled team next year & the arrival of Brooks adds that missing piece in the halves.
I also hope next year:
-Schuster can exorcise his demons between now & round 1 & have a breakout season.
-Tom has an injury free year & gives rep footy a swerve to give his body a chance .
-Weekes has a break out season.
Let’s go Manly
We’ve shown signs of being capable against the better teams but have lacked consistency.
Other times there’s been what appears to be a lack of interest amongst some members of the playing group.
Injuries (apart from the obvious in Tom) have hit us hard late in the season (losing Paseka, Aloiai & Jake vs the Sharks & Lodge & Burbo vs the Roosters, as well as Parker).
I’m hoping we look a better-settled team next year & the arrival of Brooks adds that missing piece in the halves.
I also hope next year:
-Schuster can exorcise his demons between now & round 1 & have a breakout season.
-Tom has an injury free year & gives rep footy a swerve to give his body a chance .
-Weekes has a break out season.
Let’s go Manly
Yeah in a 17 team comp missing the 8 really is a fail. I have not really studied the table but win the next 2 and I guess we finish in the 9 - 11 region. Start losing and we are 12 - 14 which would be very disappointing.
We have been unlucky with injuries Again and also with the refs, but even with Turbo out we should have been in the mix for 7 - 8, as was the case last year before we lost 7 from 7.
We started really brightly but just couldn't maintain that over time. Disappointing year.
We have been unlucky with injuries Again and also with the refs, but even with Turbo out we should have been in the mix for 7 - 8, as was the case last year before we lost 7 from 7.
We started really brightly but just couldn't maintain that over time. Disappointing year.
ManEagle
Just a Man and his Eagle
Season Fail for me and all counts Team
no finals = Fail
Owner says we have premiership team = Owner Fail
CEO and Coach say Premiership Window = both Fail
I would hope some hard lessons learnt and mistakes addressed along with building on the strengths during the Off season for next year.
You can't improve unless you acknowledge your failures. Can't grow unless you keep building on your strengths.
If we happen to lose the 2 remaining games, the Fail becomes almost untenable.
The expectation is to finish with 2 wins.
no finals = Fail
Owner says we have premiership team = Owner Fail
CEO and Coach say Premiership Window = both Fail
I would hope some hard lessons learnt and mistakes addressed along with building on the strengths during the Off season for next year.
You can't improve unless you acknowledge your failures. Can't grow unless you keep building on your strengths.
If we happen to lose the 2 remaining games, the Fail becomes almost untenable.
The expectation is to finish with 2 wins.
KNUCKLES
weights before dates
Not having a dig, but it's not being negative rather than perhaps being realistic about our year.
| Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
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8 | 7 | 1 | 109 | 16 |
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8 | 7 | 1 | 56 | 16 |
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8 | 6 | 2 | 66 | 14 |
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9 | 6 | 3 | 57 | 14 |
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9 | 5 | 4 | -14 | 12 |
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10 | 5 | 4 | 31 | 11 |
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9 | 5 | 4 | 95 | 10 |
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9 | 5 | 4 | 42 | 10 |
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8 | 4 | 4 | 25 | 10 |
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9 | 4 | 5 | -16 | 8 |
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9 | 4 | 5 | -19 | 8 |
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8 | 3 | 5 | -55 | 8 |
|
9 | 4 | 5 | -70 | 8 |
|
9 | 3 | 5 | 11 | 7 |
|
8 | 2 | 6 | -63 | 6 |
|
8 | 1 | 7 | -89 | 4 |
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8 | 1 | 7 | -166 | 4 |
