No doubt forwards win games, dominate the ruck & create time in attack & defence & the individuals out wide can be nullified if the forwards get bent over all day..... Thing is with a few players back & the ability to be even close to matching the middle, the outside backs can come to life, giving quality halves time to create the overlap or even 1 on 1 situation for the centres. Theres no doubt Lyon & Matai are matchwinners if given equal opportunity, & a heap of the too old & slow calls have been based on minimal opportunity, recent injuries & space created by the big men up front. Age is a contributing factor with injury concerns & maybe a metre of pace, but they are still capable of producing that yard of explosive pace to make a bust or create that second of space for the wingers who in Tom & Taufua - will finish, the class is still evident. These coming crunch games the Lyon/Matai impact could well decide the outcome - in Matai's case it could be influenced also with a lethal shot!! These are still 2 of the best centres in the NRL & a massive key to the resurgent Seaeagles in 2015......its not just the world class play, but the influence of these 2 that make them so valuable.