Koula injured

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HoldenV8

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With Seibold basically having Burbo concentrate on getting his body to be a back rower, I don't think he's going to throw him in there with Koula being out. Our coach seems to see him as a back rower first, centre only as a backup if needed. We do have other options without disrupting our current forward rotation.

I can see Harper getting the call up. But I can also see Weekes coming onto the wing with Garrick moving to centre (reportedly part of what got Reubs to re-sign was the promise of a move to the centres at some point) with maybe Gordon to the first grade bench. Whichever way we go I think we'll be OK.

Bummer about Koula though. Usually a strong defender and we'll definitely miss his pace. Take him and Saab out of the line up and suddenly we're not such a quick team.
 

Fibro Eagle

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It’s a disruption if Croker isn’t fit and GCKT isn’t upgraded to the 30
Then Manly will play Lawton for the entire game , Isn’t GCKT in the top 30 cause I thought I saw him named in the squad but got cut when they named the final 18 ?
 

Seagles68

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If Harper's picked and plays his best, then he could be ok. But if he isn't at his best, then Best could be better. And I'm not sure if it's best to bring in Garrick and Weekes instead coz Best and Hunt could be better. So what is the Best centre pairing? Well, that would be Gagai - but that's irrelevant. So, I don't know what's best. But I think it's best I stop writing.
 

Ron E. Gibbs

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If you've watched any of the Blacktown games, you would know that Harper hasn't exactly been knocking the door to NRL selection down. He looks down on confidence, bordering on disinterested. Where that leaves us, I don't know.
 

Seagles68

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If you've watched any of the Blacktown games, you would know that Harper hasn't exactly been knocking the door to NRL selection down. He looks down on confidence, bordering on disinterested. Where that leaves us, I don't know.
Yeah, I watched him in the Bulldogs game and he looked like someone waiting for the next best offer. He'll certainly know where he stands this time tomorrow.
 

Nordburg

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Then Manly will play Lawton for the entire game , Isn’t GCKT in the top 30 cause I thought I saw him named in the squad but got cut when they named the final 18 ?
There’s a bit of confusion over GCKT status but it appears he’s not in the 30 and someone said he got dispensation to be 18th man in Rd1.Not sure on the accuracy of that story though.As for Lawton playing 80 minutes at dummy half,that would be a stretch
 

JBW

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I think its time to give Reuben his chance in the centres, especially against the team he knocked back to stay here and possibly play in the centers.

Weekes on the wing, hes a full back so playing in the back three should be fine.
 

Scorpio

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Harper has been terrible for blacktown has a run then looks disinterested just watches the next sets of the six with no effort to backup or involve himself

As an aside, 'disinterested' is how I feel about the whole Blacktown Workers experiment. Since we linked up with them, their results have been poor at best, I don't think any of our juniors have come from that catchment, and it doesn't feel like there is anything tying them to the Manly cause and identity apart from the maroon jersey stripes.

Do BWSE even train with the NRL team?
 

Nordburg

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As an aside, 'disinterested' is how I feel about the whole Blacktown Workers experiment. Since we linked up with them, their results have been poor at best, I don't think any of our juniors have come from that catchment, and it doesn't feel like there is anything tying them to the Manly cause and identity apart from the maroon jersey stripes.

Do BWSE even train with the NRL team?
Judging by their results since the alignment,I’d be asking if they train at all
 

Dion Johnson

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Special talent’: Manly’s plan to stop Koula following Suaalii back to rugby​

News of Joseph Suaalii’s mega deal with Rugby Australia has prompted Manly to ramp up talks with Wallabies target Tolutau Koula.

Sea Eagles boss Tony Mestrov confirmed that the weekend news of Suaalii’s code switch had raised concerns Koula might follow suit.

Koula played with Suaalii in the Australian Schoolboys rugby team that ended a seven-year drought against New Zealand in 2019, and has reportedly been offered around $800,000 a year to become the next NRL youngster to make the move back to the 15-man game.
Not only quick, Koula showed how tough he was when he heard a “pop” in his knee and played on in pain for more than half the game on Saturday night against South Sydney. He will undergo surgery for an MCL strain and be sidelined for up to six weeks.
“He’s a special talent, he has electric speed, he’s a very good defender and a key part of our team in the future,” Mestrov told the Herald. “He’s only 20, so he has a big future at this club. He’s a player we don’t want to let go.
“We’ve spoken with [player agent] ‘Chimes’ [Steve Gillis], and Chimes has told us rugby are interested. Tolu is already signed for 2023 and 2024, but we’ve started to put together an offer that will keep him at Manly beyond that time.”
Tolutau Koula and Manly have ramped up talks in a bid to stop him following good friend Joseph Suaalii to rugby.

Tolutau Koula and Manly have ramped up talks in a bid to stop him following good friend Joseph Suaalii to rugby.CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES
Given he is off contract at the end of next year, Koula, a fleet-footed centre, could follow Suaalii out the door and be parachuted into the Wallabies side for the spring tour of Europe next November. That would give him time to prepare for the all-important British and Irish Lions series on Australian soil the following year.
Manly would be open to an extension of two years, or potentially three, which would tie Koula to the Northern Beaches until the end of 2027, wiping out any chance of playing in the Rugby World Cup that year.

The club is also mindful Koula has only played 23 NRL games, and know the need to be sensible when it comes to outlaying a large chunk of their salary cap on potential alone.
Manly coach Anthony Seibold worked as Eddie Jones’ assistant in the England rugby set-up, and the pair have had conversations about Koula and his future.
Tolutau Koula (far left) and Joey Suaalii (third from left, middle row) celebrate with the 2019 Australian schoolboys rugby team

Tolutau Koula (far left) and Joey Suaalii (third from left, middle row) celebrate with the 2019 Australian schoolboys rugby teamCREDIT:INSTAGRAM
“We wouldn’t be doing our job if we weren’t concerned about Koula following the news of the weekend, we are concerned, but we are also being proactive by having discussions with him about his future,” Mestrov said.
“‘Seibs’ has a good relationship with Eddie, who admitted his interest in Koula. We’ve known it was coming. But we think we’re building something special at Manly, and we want him to be a part of it.

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“He’s a quiet kid but a great kid, and part of the culture we want to build moving forward - he’s a special talent but a hard worker who gets along with others in the group.”
As for the latest injury, Seibold said of Koula: “He’ll get operated on Tuesday. He did it in the first half, so he’s a tough bugger.
“He heard a pop but didn’t tell anyone and played the whole game. By playing on he didn’t do any more damage. It says a lot about Tolu and says a lot about our group at the moment. We wanted to compete really strongly on what was a pretty special occasion for Souths, and we went there, fought hard and made it a good contest. Tolu’s actions exemplified that.”
Meanwhile, NRL head of elite football Graham Annesley said referee Chris Sutton should not have ruled a forward pass on Saturday night when Tom Trbojevic was about to score.
“It was the wrong decision, it was a misjudgement by the referee, and play should have been allowed to continue,” Annesley saint
 

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