Ken Irvine - and the Immortal Short List

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Bill Hamilton

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I remember meeting the late great Ken Irvine as a kid of 6 or 7. I was going to school in Mosman then (before the move out to the wild west) and got to play on North Sydney Oval at halftime in a juniors match. Dad knew Ken and I got to meet him after the game and get his autograph. He is the reason I follow Manly. The year after meeting him, he joined Manly and so did I.

I remember as if it was yesterday watching him and the great George Ambrum at the bears scoring some great tries and bombing just as many, and the thrill in 1972 of sitting on the hill with dad at Brookie watching "Kenny" do his thing.

He doesn't need the tag Immortal, because he always will be that to all who had the privilege of seeing the great man play. Fingers crossed he gets the nod, but I have a gut feeling a couple of Cane Toads will be selected.
 
I never saw Ken play live . Just seen old footage and he seemed fast . He had blistering speed . Once in the clear it was all over red rover . Similar speed to our Tom Wright ;)
 
I never saw Ken play live . Just seen old footage and he seemed fast . He had blistering speed . Once in the clear it was all over red rover . Similar speed to our Tom Wright ;)
I heard Middleton say tonight that he held a world sprint world record at one stage. I imagine it would have been a junior record. He was quick mate, if he hadn't wasted all those years at the bears who knows how many tries he would have scored.
 
I have just noticed the club has not recognised Ken being short listed on its website, Facebook page or twitter. I have tweeted them a reminder, can someone post something on the Facebook page to remind them, I would but I was banned from posting a few years back. Picture courtesy Daily Telegraph

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I never saw Ken play live . Just seen old footage and he seemed fast . He had blistering speed . Once in the clear it was all over red rover . Similar speed to our Tom Wright ;)

Ken Irvine held the World Sprint 100 yards Record in 1963. At Dubbo in 1963 he had run 100 yards (91 m) in 9.3 seconds, setting a world professional sprint record. The only Rugby League player to hold a World Sprint Record.


That's pretty quick!!
 
Ken Irvine held the World Sprint 100 yards Record in 1963. At Dubbo in 1963 he had run 100 yards (91 m) in 9.3 seconds, setting a world professional sprint record. The only Rugby League player to hold a World Sprint Record.


That's pretty quick!!
Wow . That is quick !!!
 
I have just noticed the club has not recognised Ken being short listed on its website, Facebook page or twitter. I have tweeted them a reminder, can someone post something on the Facebook page to remind them, I would but I was banned from posting a few years back. Picture courtesy Daily Telegraph

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They've probably got to look him up after your reminder.

He is a large part of the reason I go for Manly.
 
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I have just noticed the club has not recognised Ken being short listed on its website, Facebook page or twitter. I have tweeted them a reminder, can someone post something on the Facebook page to remind them, I would but I was banned from posting a few years back. Picture courtesy Daily Telegraph

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That's Ray Brannigan he has run around.
 
I remember meeting the late great Ken Irvine as a kid of 6 or 7. I was going to school in Mosman then (before the move out to the wild west) and got to play on North Sydney Oval at halftime in a juniors match. Dad knew Ken and I got to meet him after the game and get his autograph. He is the reason I follow Manly. The year after meeting him, he joined Manly and so did I.

I remember as if it was yesterday watching him and the great George Ambrum at the bears scoring some great tries and bombing just as many, and the thrill in 1972 of sitting on the hill with dad at Brookie watching "Kenny" do his thing.

He doesn't need the tag Immortal, because he always will be that to all who had the privilege of seeing the great man play. Fingers crossed he gets the nod, but I have a gut feeling a couple of Cane Toads will be selected.
I hope Ken gets it not just because of his affiliations with manly, but because my great grandfather was his mentor throughout his career. It feels close to home. Does anyone know if a current hall of Famer is eligible for immortality?
 
I heard Middleton say tonight that he held a world sprint world record at one stage. I imagine it would have been a junior record. He was quick mate, if he hadn't wasted all those years at the bears who knows how many tries he would have scored.
Ken Irvine still holds the fastest time over 100m for a white Male. True story
 
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I heard Middleton say tonight that he held a world sprint world record at one stage. I imagine it would have been a junior record. He was quick mate, if he hadn't wasted all those years at the bears who knows how many tries he would have scored.
No, I'm fairly certain it was as a professional over 100yards, however I'm not sure if it was Ken Irvine or more likely Dave Irvine, no relation, who played with Parra in the 60s who definitely was a world professional sprint champion
 
Irvine is incomparable in respect of wingers. Defensively he apparently had some issues, but give him the ball and a little space and bingo. I saw him outpace Les Hannigan in one match and Hannigan was very fast also. But given his record with tries, rep appearances etc, he should already be considered an Immortal.
 
I watched him many times, at both Norths and Manly. Every time he got the ball the crowd would rise in anticipation. He'd use his blistering acceleration to beat players and a swerve, not a sidestep. I think at one stage he raced a horse over 100 metres and led for most of it . . got beaten by a head. The only RL player who could match Irvine in pace was Mike Cleary who was a much bigger man and it took him a while to get to top speed. Cleary represented Australia at the Commonwealth Games.
Ken didn't like tackling. He was there to score tries and bring fans through the gate. He could also kick goals, and kicked one from the sideline to win a match for Australia against Great Britain. In those days with a leather ball this was a major feat.
He was small but stocky. Unfortunately he'd be bashed out of the sport these days by 110-kilo 'wingers'.
 
Irvine, Kenneth John (Ken) (1940–1990)
by Andrew Moore

This article was published in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 17, (MUP), 2007

Kenneth John (Ken) Irvine (1940-1990), Rugby League footballer, was born on 5 March 1940 at Cremorne, Sydney, son of Sydney-born parents John Bernard Irvine, butcher, and his wife Doris May, née McCabe. Ken grew up at Cammeray, was educated at Marist Brothers’ Boys’ School, Mosman, and worked briefly as a beer plumber. Initially attracted to baseball, he was talent-spotted at a local Rugby League schools’ carnival by a North Sydney official. He played his maiden first-grade game for the club in 1958. The following season `Mongo’, nicknamed apparently because of his slightly Asiatic appearance, scored twenty-three tries. He was a member of the 1959 Kangaroo tour to England and France, quickly overcoming the negative connotation attached to the sobriquet `Better Brakes’ that he had attracted (implying a proclivity to slow down before tackles).

Of nuggety build (5 ft 8 ins or 173 cm; 11 st. 8 lb. or 73.5 kg) Irvine was blessed with scorching speed, flawless positional sense and safe hands. Together with Brian Bevan, the expatriate Australian who played for Warrington in the British competition, Irvine was the code’s most outstanding winger after World War II, of comparable status to Harold Horder in an earlier era. In fifteen years in the game, twelve with North Sydney, Irvine scored some 300 tries in about 340 games, including 33 in 31 Test matches. He retired from football after winning the premiership with the Manly-Warringah club in 1972 and 1973. At Dubbo in 1963 he had run 100 yards (91 m) in 9.3 seconds, setting a world professional sprint record. A celebrated attempt to outrun a racehorse was predictably unsuccessful—though popular memory of the contest against Gili over 60 yards (55 m) at Kembla Grange racecourse in August 1963 often suggests otherwise. He also enjoyed all forms of watersports.

Irvine had married Mavis Marguirite (Valerie) Simmonds, a typist, on 25 November 1961 at St Mary’s Catholic Church, North Sydney. Outside professional sprinting and football, he worked as a sales representative for sporting goods companies and as a sports journalist. His rugged good looks led to some modelling and made him a `natural’ for the game’s increasing commercialism. Despite his contractual battles with the club, North Sydney fans likened him, as the journalist Mike Gibson quipped, to `Captain Marvel, Superman, Brick Bradford and Batman and Robin all rolled into one’. An unassuming, likeable and knockabout Australian, Irvine was an enthusiastic punter and part-time larrikin.

In 1982 Irvine moved to the Gold Coast, where he worked as a sales representative with a poker-machine manufacturer and as a journalist. Part of a robust community of retired Sydney footballers, he played touch football with a local hotel team, briefly acted as sprint trainer for a Gold Coast league team and led Kangaroo supporters’ tours to England. In 1983 he was diagnosed with chronic myeloid leukaemia. Survived by his wife and their daughter and son, he died on 22 December 1990 at Brisbane and was cremated. The scoreboard at North Sydney Oval, named in his honour in 1991, is a fitting testimonial to his try-scoring prowess.
 
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