keep politics out of the game
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Red Pill
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Thanks mate. Same to you! Don’t think too much🙂Thanks, @Red Pill Hope you had a great Xmas, and wishing you a happy new year, resulting in a MWSE premiership of course. 😎 Yes, that's an extremely optimistic perspective on the year that will be, but in this case @Technical Coach note that its clearly presented as an opinion only.No "cross-dressing" it as a fact, just to keep you happy, mate.
Hmmm, Interesting concept @Red Pill I might make that my New Years' resolution. 😎 Let me have a long think about it.
Technical Coach
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Well considering you are the facts boy i can't argue against you right?Seriously delusional @Technical Coach You really have no idea how you are actually perceived on here? Anyway, each to their own, I guess
This is exactly the kind of response i've been talking about, good to see you remain consistent in one element of your personality.
Where in my reply does it suggest i have no idea how i am perceived, where in my response does it state i feel loved around here lol.
Once again please quote the comment i made in my last comment that shows i am delusional in how i am perceived or are you once again going off on some tangent based off your internal biases.
I would rather be disliked by many and respected by a few than merely just making up the numbers so to not feel lonely.
@Technical Coach, the only thing you have been consistent in over this discussion is to remain tied to your delusions. Does this delusional disorder predate your claims of being an NRL Assistant Coach? Or was the condition exacerbated by the discovery that you were a fantasist? Combination of both, perhaps? Anyway, mate, you are incapable of accepting reality, even when that reality is self-proclaimed!!!. In your own posts!!! Let's use your homophobic behaviour on Silvertails as an example. I don't see any added value in prolonging this discussion into 2023, so I am happy to let you have the last word.
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Technical Coach
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Never claimed anything, you are the delusional one who lacks the ability to process "context" and "taking the piss" and making up "shyte" which can't be quoted as it doesn't exist.
I honestly feel sorry for you, a person who can't think for himself and runs off delusions of others to double down on their own delusions.
You will be fine eventually it will take time but don't give up, i haven't lol.
Happy New Year to you.
I hope you become a little more rounded in 2023 so the delusions have distractions.
Chin up it's all good.
Take care
ps(were you at my Assistant Coach book signing over a decade ago, maybe you have a signed copy to back my piss take story up)
Heres a few quotes for you @Technical Coach
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Multiple quotes by multiple posters. Clearly, these other posters are also delusional.....
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That is still nurture and not nature. Absolutely agree, people's upbringing and education have a huge impact on how they develop :thumbsup: Nevertheless, they also have frontal lobe function to make decisions and change. That is something many homosexuals cannot do Cool… religion is not...
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If you don't waste your time watching the NRLW, how can you possibly know the standard on display? Well "they" say you should try everything once before judging right.(there are enough small highlights on the news to footy shows also) Men are mostly watching the womens game to support a...
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One is a choice the other is not One typically gets you persecuted the other does not What has "no choice" have to do with a requirement to have agenda based marketing on a jersey. I accept peoples sexualities but watching sport is not about sexuality.
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You come back punching but when someone squares up to you and points out your errors the "whatever i'm above this" lame pedestal response is dillied out to save face. No, wrong again ... From your responses I'm just afraid that you have only a casual grasp on reality ...
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Seriously, this place is becoming a joke with these boomers running rampant with their archaic, unfounded views. But coming from the bloke that openly discriminates against homosexuals, I would expect nothing less. How embarrassing. Gen X here, the last generation with a healthy balance of left...
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Rainbows,rubgy league, Roberts, religion...
Yeah but they did build the aqueducts. Meanwhile congratulations on a reply devoid of any reference to lefties.
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FFS this is actually worse than Bozo quoting Herschel Walker. Much worse And yet ... explains everything.
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You come back punching but when someone squares up to you and points out your errors the "whatever i'm above this" lame pedestal response is dillied out to save face. No, wrong again ... From your responses I'm just afraid that you have only a casual grasp on reality ...
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That is still nurture and not nature. Absolutely agree, people's upbringing and education have a huge impact on how they develop :thumbsup: Nevertheless, they also have frontal lobe function to make decisions and change. That is something many homosexuals cannot do Cool… religion is not...
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Poll added - Sea Eagles Everyone in League jersey
That is still nurture and not nature. Absolutely agree, people's upbringing and education have a huge impact on how they develop :thumbsup: Nevertheless, they also have frontal lobe function to make decisions and change. That is something many homosexuals cannot do Cool… religion is not...
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Hope this helps.
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Technical Coach
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Do you really think i'm not aware of dislikes to my posts, seriously get a life.Heres a few quotes for you @Technical Coach
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That is still nurture and not nature. Absolutely agree, people's upbringing and education have a huge impact on how they develop :thumbsup: Nevertheless, they also have frontal lobe function to make decisions and change. That is something many homosexuals cannot do Cool… religion is not...(Womens Team) Discussion
If you don't waste your time watching the NRLW, how can you possibly know the standard on display? Well "they" say you should try everything once before judging right.(there are enough small highlights on the news to footy shows also) Men are mostly watching the womens game to support a...Poll added - Sea Eagles Everyone in League jersey
One is a choice the other is not One typically gets you persecuted the other does not What has "no choice" have to do with a requirement to have agenda based marketing on a jersey. I accept peoples sexualities but watching sport is not about sexuality.(Womens Team) Discussion
You come back punching but when someone squares up to you and points out your errors the "whatever i'm above this" lame pedestal response is dillied out to save face. No, wrong again ... From your responses I'm just afraid that you have only a casual grasp on reality ...(Womens Team) Discussion
Seriously, this place is becoming a joke with these boomers running rampant with their archaic, unfounded views. But coming from the bloke that openly discriminates against homosexuals, I would expect nothing less. How embarrassing. Gen X here, the last generation with a healthy balance of left...Rainbows,rubgy league, Roberts, religion...
Yeah but they did build the aqueducts. Meanwhile congratulations on a reply devoid of any reference to lefties.(Womens Team) Discussion
FFS this is actually worse than Bozo quoting Herschel Walker. Much worse And yet ... explains everything.(Womens Team) Discussion
You come back punching but when someone squares up to you and points out your errors the "whatever i'm above this" lame pedestal response is dillied out to save face. No, wrong again ... From your responses I'm just afraid that you have only a casual grasp on reality ...Poll added - Sea Eagles Everyone in League jersey
That is still nurture and not nature. Absolutely agree, people's upbringing and education have a huge impact on how they develop :thumbsup: Nevertheless, they also have frontal lobe function to make decisions and change. That is something many homosexuals cannot do Cool… religion is not...Multiple quotes by multiple posters. Clearly, these other posters are also delusional.....Poll added - Sea Eagles Everyone in League jersey
That is still nurture and not nature. Absolutely agree, people's upbringing and education have a huge impact on how they develop :thumbsup: Nevertheless, they also have frontal lobe function to make decisions and change. That is something many homosexuals cannot do Cool… religion is not...
Hope this helps.
Still waiting on you to quote the racist remark that lead to SER8's initial response labelling me as such along with you jumping on the back of his opinions.
Still waiting for you to address how i can be clasified as misogynist when i have mentioned several times i support womens sport in these forums and given examples.
Not supporting investment into Womens Rugby League especially from a club that can barely turn a profit as it is and a history with struggling to fund itself is just telling it as it is. Until women support the womens game in droves and not reliant on the male game pretty much fully funding promotions to generate interest it has zero foundations to build off.
There is no womens game unless the male game is flourishing financially, this is not a sound business model full stop. Subsidies just promote laziness for the most part.
My view is women in general have far less interest in watching female physical contact sports so the growth potential is very very limited relative to other sports, so why invest money in a high risk proposition especially from a club that is financially not strong along with many other clubs in the NRL.
I'm all for lending a helping hand to elevate the game but it has to stand on it's own two feet first without any assistance to prove it's worth.
Yeah sure the mens game can throw big sums of money and maybe make the game a success but there is no pride in that for the women along with not learning from the struggles to get to that stage----all women will learn is----- pressure men for more money to invest more to fund future growth.
It's not about dislikes, you delusional ****wit.
It's about how others on here see you, and how they can also see through your nonsensical rebuttals. The quotes in my previous post (not dislikes) by other posters should give you a deeper understanding of exactly how you are perceived on the main points in question. I cannot be bothered dredging those points out again.
Clearly, the @Technical Coach capacity for denial and self-delusion (in relation to the above) is highly developed.
In relation to your bull**** arguments on the women's game I refer you to my previous post.
It starts with this ........
Thanks @Technical Coach for demonstrating that your "research" on NRLW is superficial at best, and severely compromised at worst. Please find below some of the "takeouts" from Gemba’s Specialist Data & Analytics Division across all elements of data and digital strategy and execution for the NRL and NRLW.
(Womens Team) Discussion
You come back punching but when someone squares up to you and points out your errors the "whatever i'm above this" lame pedestal response is dillied out to save face. No, wrong again ... From your responses I'm just afraid that you have only a casual grasp on reality ...
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Hope this helps
Technical Coach
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Seriously you are as brain dead as one could or can be, i'm totally aware how some/many posters see me, i just don't care, i say it as i see it people can take it or leave it.It's not about dislikes, you delusional ****wit.
It's about how others on here see you, and how they can also see through your nonsensical rebuttals. The quotes in my previous post (not dislikes) by other posters should give you a deeper understanding of exactly how you are perceived on the main points in question. I cannot be bothered dredging those points out again.
Clearly, the @Technical Coach capacity for denial and self-delusion (in relation to the above) is highly developed.
In relation to your bull**** arguments on the women's game I refer you to my previous post.
It starts with this ........
Thanks @Technical Coach for demonstrating that your "research" on NRLW is superficial at best, and severely compromised at worst. Please find below some of the "takeouts" from Gemba’s Specialist Data & Analytics Division across all elements of data and digital strategy and execution for the NRL and NRLW.
(Womens Team) Discussion
You come back punching but when someone squares up to you and points out your errors the "whatever i'm above this" lame pedestal response is dillied out to save face. No, wrong again ... From your responses I'm just afraid that you have only a casual grasp on reality ...
Hope this helps
The "research" you are referring to is just a lazy essay on the benefits of "investing" in anything from a general perspective, it is pure marketing speak an introduction to Marketing Fundamentals part 1 level.
More games leads to greater attendances and reach improving fan engagement, no shi7 obvious marketing mantra.
Fanatics of female leagues are also fanatics of male leagues, no shi7.(what is more interesting will be analyzing this female data set to see what type of female is a fanatic of both leagues, i don't need to waste research funds working that out for the most part, but yeah occasioanlly there will be an exception to the rule case)
Additional matches leads to greater exposure for sponsors, no shi7.
Additional matches generates more commercial revenue, seriously this analysis is putting me to sleep.
Revenue this revenue that, what about sustainable growing revenue and profit, they are talking like a year 2000 dotcom startup that has nothing when the opportunist fund managers stop rolling in to fund and promote their dreams.
It goes on and on and on and on with this kind of marketing spiel, if it is this simple and guaranteed why don't the women get off their butts and start a league up without the male games funding, it's obviously a no loss proposition and it can't fail going off this lame report.
When you read analysis using the sentence structure of "it could, it should, most likley, should see growth" etc etc you can say that about any product you increase investment into prior to release.
As i've stated before coming off a small base there will initially be strong growth whether you are promoting Men,Women,Ants or Robots, the chances of WRL generating sustainable long term income and profits are highly doubtful and is "only" possible via the money from the mens game.
There will be growth in both codes for the next 5yrs after the big lull forced by covid, a new appreciation of enjoying the simple pleasures of life has people craving outdoor entertainment more but i'm sure this growth will be tied to the investment into the female game because it is politcally correct to say so.
Yes if you increase investment into the womens game sure you might get an increase of female interest in the mens game also leading to a small increase in attendances but the ROI will be negative in a financial sense, the research makes out as if all investment is good investment.
The male game needs to be concentrating more on making it a national sport before funding a female model, we are not at the stage financially or nationally like the AFL who have already exhausted their growth prospects in some respects and have more reasons to start a female league, the NRL is at a different stage and is following merely because others have done so which is asking for trouble.
It's obvious, Technical Clown, that you can't understand how to read/interpret/critique a comprehensive research paper.
Try reading the whole document at Gemba_NRL-Expansion-Analysis_Final-Report_170621.pdf , before making any more of your inane remarks on the document's content as a whole.
You obviously haven't even bothered to look at the statistics utilised in the report, let alone come up with any contrasting data, that you could use in your increasingly puerile arguments.
Just accept the fact that you are rabidly misogynistic on this issue (Expanding the NRLW), and we can all move on.
Red Pill
Enthusiastic Amateur
@Eagles4Life ( not wanting to get involved in your direct exchanges with TC) I am quite interested in this topic and have said from the outset that I don’t think the women’s NRL game will work and should not be artificially propped up. I am very happy!!! to be proven wrong. In having read the data insights provided by gemba. In my current job I come across these type of papers all the time especially from the big 4….Data in general can be construed to make any kind of argument these days especially ones supporting populist values. 🙂. Given that this reports scope is based around the expansion of the men’s game and that increasing general participation including the women’s game is only one of 8 frames where this is viewed. The data presented appears somewhat limited in my opinion. Definitely not enough evidence to make any claims that this paper is some kind of indisputable proof that the women's game is going to be profitable in its own right or even some kind of loss leader indirectly propping up the men’s game. ( this is however of course a possibility )
The data presented essentially says that via correlation with the experience of other sports investing in the women’s game more specifically the AFL and cricket Australia that the NRL should/ could experience the same outcomes. Noting that Cricket Australia’s current results are not exactly a raging success. Rugby league is physically a very different sport to just about any other sport played in Australia, this includes AFL. The unique physical demands of NRL need to be considered when looking at participation or more aptly trying to increase it. I believe that these physical demands will limit participation with women more than any other alternative sport. Until this is thoroughly understood no one can make any indisputable claims either way but share their view. I trust you will not see my view as somehow sexist or one projecting some kind of nasty bias.
The data presented essentially says that via correlation with the experience of other sports investing in the women’s game more specifically the AFL and cricket Australia that the NRL should/ could experience the same outcomes. Noting that Cricket Australia’s current results are not exactly a raging success. Rugby league is physically a very different sport to just about any other sport played in Australia, this includes AFL. The unique physical demands of NRL need to be considered when looking at participation or more aptly trying to increase it. I believe that these physical demands will limit participation with women more than any other alternative sport. Until this is thoroughly understood no one can make any indisputable claims either way but share their view. I trust you will not see my view as somehow sexist or one projecting some kind of nasty bias.
The usual suspects oppose putting money into the women's game. Surprise, surprise. Given that the NRL pays the very healthy salaries of all 510 (Top 30 for 17 teams) NRL players and essentially provides all the infrastructure and marketing, don'tcha think you're being just a tad petty?
Red Pill
Enthusiastic Amateur
It’s not a crime to share an opinion you obviously don’t agree with. . Not all opinions need to include emotions. As I said. I am happy to be proven wrong.
I suspect most parents will encourage their daughters to play other sports ahead of playing NRL.
I don’t know how being “petty” has anything to do with my view. I have nothing against women playing league. I think it is great btw.
1. Didn’t say it was a crime
2. You did not address the concisely made point.
Red Pill
Enthusiastic Amateur
The term “usual suspects“ usually refers to criminal activity / crime of some sort.
In regards to your second point I am not your student at school and my responses are not subject to your critique 🙂
The NRL can invest it’s money where it likes. I do not agree with them investing in something that is not adding value or needs to be artificially propped up. This is from a mid/ to long term perspective as most ventures are not profitable in the early days. I only think the NRL should invest in ventures long term that can demonstrate a value add regardless of ideals. In regards to women’s rugby league the jury is still out and the gemba research as I have explained does not confirm or denounce its viability.
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How many teams have we had on the Gold Coast now?
I have zero interest in NRLW but then I had a similar degree of interest in women's soccer ... until the game itself invested in it and showed us all what a great product it can be.
As for the usual suspects being a criminal phrase, that broadened with the release of the film in 1995, since then it's been very much in general use to refer to all sorts of things. Maybe even a footy team ... eg "the usual suspects didn't put in". Get it?
In this case I used the term about those who jump right in to judge that women shouldn't get funding but would never consider criticising anything else the NRL do with their money from taking a game to the US to having a digital arm to lobbying government for stadiums. These people, and you seem to put yourself in this group, are like clockwork in their predictability.
And as for including you in that description, truth be told I don't normally read any of your posts unless you respond directly to me, hence I had no idea what you'd said.
Red Pill
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I honestly have no idea of what you’re talking about now @Budgie. How the hell can you assume what others are thinking? this kind of tells me a lot about how you ironically judge yourself. I have just shared a view in a rugby league discussion forum on the subject matter that I don’t think the women’s game should not be artificially propped up and I don’t think it will likely work as a sustainable venture in the future. To expand, I don’t think any venture that is supposedly commercial in nature should be propped up either!!! I don’t care what the hell it is.!!! I really don’t!!! ( yes, I am over using exclamation marks) gee there is a whole thread on this topic from a forum perspective it is hardly perceived as petty…
You can use your super power BS heuristics all you like to categorise this view. Gee, you don’t apparently need to even read someone’s posts to be able to do that. 🙂
The truth is, and you can now spin it how you like….. is that you simply have a gripe about the / my opinion shared. Well that’s too bad. Because you don’t like it you want to categorise it and straw man it so you can dismiss it as some form of heresy……or the ranting of some form of a out of touch group “ the usual suspects”. Or whatever you want to call it. Yes the term has some equivocal flexibility but we both know how you meant it….🙂
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Woman "s league comp will probably continue to just have a scaled back type season but the extra teams will no doubt also extend it a bit longer then currently . Just inevitable that the N R L had to follow the other main footy codes with a fairly comprehensive national woman "s comp , Interest certainly appears to be there and to enable some sufficient viability
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