Jamie Humphreys

[Dion Johnson]

I like what Humphreys has done in three first grade games mainly his game controlling ability with his long kicks that dictate field position, though yet to see him consistently engaging defenders at the line and his ball playing ability.

For 900K I would want to see a bit more of him.

 

[frank stokes]

I like what Humphreys has done in three first grade games mainly his game controlling ability with his long kicks that dictate field position, though yet to see him consistently engaging defenders at the line and his ball playing ability.

For 900K I would want to see a bit more of him.

Perfect summation of what I have seen so far… he is not making errors and is making a good kicking contribution but I have not seen him play a creative role yet…

not saying he does not have potential but compare him to a player like the Panthers debutant last night (Jenkins) who started at fullback and then slotted into the 7 and had a blinder…

Willing to hold time on declaring Jamie to be a massive loss…

 

[Tragic Eagle]

JH has worked very hard on himself over the last few years and I was disappointed when we let him slip thru our fingers. I rate him a better player than Wakeham and Arthurs. However DCE has been there a long time and it doesn't look like he's ready to go just yet so I don't blame Humphries for losing patience. It is now paying dividends for him as he is playing first grade and playing well. I would prefer DCE to play on for one more season but we don't need him for two more years. If another club offers him 2 MIllion over 2 years then let him go.

 

[frank stokes]

I rate him a better player than Wakeham and Arthurs.

Definitely… but neither of those guys are getting offered starting opportunities elsewhere..

I would prefer DCE to play on for one more season but we don't need him for two more years. If another club offers him 2 MIllion over 2 years then let him go.

Disagree… Let’s presume the absolute best-case scenario, Joey Walsh is ready for 2027…

Joey is still on low coin at that point and Chez is in the last year of his contract and has mentored Walsh for 2 years and continues to guide him through 2027… potentially Joey does a year at 14 (plus injury cover) and then steps into the starting 7 in 2028…

The alternative is that Chez leaves this year and Joey (who comes from a rugby background) has to step into the role of a starting NRL 7 next year, as a 19yo, with just 1 year of mentorship by Chez… there is no in-between because Chez wants 2 years…

Let’s face it, we may as well write-off 2026 if we are relying on any of the other back-ups…

 

[Heckenberg]

Definitely… but neither of those guys are getting offered starting opportunities elsewhere..


Disagree… Let’s presume the absolute best-case scenario, Joey Walsh is ready for 2027…

Joey is still on low coin at that point and Chez is in the last year of his contract and has mentored Walsh for 2 years and continues to guide him through 2027… potentially Joey does a year at 14 (plus injury cover) and then steps into the starting 7 in 2028…

The alternative is that Chez leaves this year and Joey (who comes from a rugby background) has to step into the role of a starting NRL 7 next year, as a 19yo, with just 1 year of mentorship by Chez… there is no in-between because Chez wants 2 years…

Let’s face it, we may as well write-off 2026 if we are relying on any of the other back-ups…

I think if we can get chez for 800k two years we definitely have to go for it. They should be able to sweeten the deal with post career salary as halves consultant leading into a coaching role too. There’s no way the club would offer him 600 k without any sort of sweetener.

 

[frank stokes]

Definitely… but neither of those guys are getting offered starting opportunities elsewhere..


Disagree… Let’s presume the absolute best-case scenario, Joey Walsh is ready for 2027…

Joey is still on low coin at that point and Chez is in the last year of his contract and has mentored Walsh for 2 years and continues to guide him through 2027… potentially Joey does a year at 14 (plus injury cover) and then steps into the starting 7 in 2028…

The alternative is that Chez leaves this year and Joey (who comes from a rugby background) has to step into the role of a starting NRL 7 next year, as a 19yo, with just 1 year of mentorship by Chez… there is no in-between because Chez wants 2 years…

Let’s face it, we may as well write-off 2026 if we are relying on any of the other back-ups…

Just thinking this through a little more…

THIS is potentially the scenario that spawned Sibs’ “Tom can potentially play 6” line of thinking…

If Chez hung up the boots after this year (doubt Seibs’ could have imagined him going elsewhere) then what do we do in 2026? Arthurs/Wakeham not NRL-level halves (on a week-to-week basis anyways) and Walsh/Large will not be ready…

Solution? Play Brooks at 7 and move Tom to 6 until the young guys are ready… Makes sense now (cause it sure didn’t when he came out and said it)

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Much ado about not very much. From memory Cam Smith extended year to year at the tail end of his career, there was always about 5 minutes of speculation then he signed. Quite reasonable.
DCE is either happy at Manly or he isn't. He is.
He is worth a certain amount of money or he isn't. He is.
Will some club try to throw crazy money at him? Maybe? Is DCE crazy? No.
So relax!

 

[frank stokes]

He is worth a certain amount of money or he isn't. He is.

This is the crux… I have no doubt that Chez stays for less and, as @Woodsie points out, the club has tailored funding in the cap it can use to supplement his contract and save on the general salary cap…

However, if $600K is even close to correct then the club is kidding itself and, if they are willing to let him go over 1 year (that could - and it is a BIG could based on his form and durability - be a year too long) then imo they are idiots…

In the worst case scenario you have an immensely qualified halves coach on $800K in 2027…

 

[Seagles68]

… followed by the line “that’s how crazy it is at the moment” 🤣🤣🤣

Joey did make perfect sense with regards to Chez… if it is true that the club offered him $600K then that is a disgraceful lack of respect for an incumbent SOO captaining half with over 10 years of service to your club…

It just seems like someone has plucked the 600 k figure out of their bum to start a controversy. Then Johns adds to it by making the statement that the Club is disrespecting him IF this was the case. It's just the same old cr*p we had to listen to with Shu.

And 900 k for Humphries??? I'm with @Nordburg, Johns is off with the fairies.

 

[Ohgeez]

Saying he is a $900k player after a couple first grade games against the worst 2 teams in the comp is ridiculous 🤣 These are the kind of dumb comments that put unfair pressure on young players & can ruin careers. Joey was hyping up Schuster in a similar way if I remember correctly…

 

[frank stokes]

It just seems like someone has plucked the 600 k figure out of their bum to start a controversy. Then Johns adds to it by making the statement that the Club is disrespecting him IF this was the case. It's just the same old cr*p we had to listen to with Shu.

And 900 k for Humphries??? I'm with @Nordburg, Johns is off with the fairies.

That is certainly my hope… f***in ridiculous to hear those two statements in the same segment “Humphries worth $900K” and “Manly have offered DCE $600K”… wtaf?

Are we back to not being able to afford chairs and lockers?

 

[manly al]

Really can not see how Turbo as a 6 will benefit either him individually or the team's prospects .
Maybe some merit in a roving centre type role but again , not being able to utilize his best impact value even there , well certainly attacking wise .
Lot could depend just how well Joey Walsh and Large come on this season also but seems a bit unexpected in some ways now in some discussion on D C E "s future so warrants at least some priority considerations on halfs options after this season .
Only practical option from a club 's perspective may be a one year extension for D C E and a club option after 26 .
if the succession plan for Walsh to step in adequately for 27 looks like happening and D C E "s form is thereabouts at the same time , sure that more then possible some N R L club may show some interest in his services ,.even at 38 years
Anyway , always a delicate matter with succession plans and quality players at the latter stage of their careers choosing or still inclined to look for the best deal and really no different in this instance

 

[frank stokes]

Saying he is a $900k player after a couple first grade games against the worst 2 teams in the comp is ridiculous 🤣 These are the kind of dumb comments that put unfair pressure on young players & can ruin careers. Joey was hyping up Schuster in a similar way if I remember correctly…

Would Joey have worked with Jamie and Josh? Or was he gone as our “technical halves advisor” (or whatever his official role was) by the time they came through?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Would Joey have worked with Jamie and Josh? Or was he gone as our “technical halves advisor” (or whatever his official role was) by the time they came through?

I thought that was about 2012!

 

[Rafferty]

I can’t believe what I read on here, JH is 3 games into his 1st grade career, his 3 from 3 and played his part in all 3 victories, that’s impressive enough at this stage, his a workaholic who looks to have durability and extreme fitness in his corner, can play 7,9,14 and would probably be a great 13 in time to come.

His gone now, but don’t worry we have Daly, Wakeham, Arthur’s - Jazz, Cum Tong, Frog, simpkins not to mention the quality we have at 14, what were we thinking.

Comparing him to Chez is ridiculous, losing him or allowing to sign elsewhere was also ridiculous, if JH wanted to play grade, then surely we should of made the necessary shifts to accommodate him, play him at 14 for a season or 2, he had so many positives and when you think he went over to the bunnies for 150k (if that’s true) how stupid are we.

Now we have potential contract issues with Daly, I don’t think resigning Daly is going to win us a premiership, nor be that important to our long term future, his time is nearing, as things stand he now gets to squeeze us again or worse sign elsewhere, if that occurs, transitioning through JH would of been the perfect way to navigate the upcoming situation which ever way it might turn out and what’s more we may have found ourselves a quality first grader, well no doubt we would have, one with youth and a motor, because it’s not like we need either of those right?

Too many people saying his not that much of a loss, a players a player, they come and they go, well his gone and good luck to him, just a bit tragic, Wayne’s gain will be our pain, I feel like we’ve been through this before. The kid had plenty to offer and was turn key ready, a genuine first grader, a footballer, a 7, 9,14 with the potential to fill other roles, it’s not like they come along everyday, anyways not to worry, its not like our cap is out of balance and we’re stacked with ready to go 7,9,14’s, it was worse than dumb to let him go and will alway remain dumb, yes I was a fan.

 

[frank stokes]

I thought that was about 2012!

lol… I am gonna take that as a “no” then lol

In my defence, we have had so many changes in coaching direction that the timelines become a bit hazy…

 

[Jay Eagle]

I'm not sure why all the fuss
DCE will stay on
But we will have 2 very young halves in their "early 20's" come 2027 onwards
No different to 2011.. DCE and Foz
Bring it on!!

2028 onwards and we will have a superstar spine
1- L Hopoate
6- C Dowell
7- J Walsh
9- A Large
13- O Large

 

[frank stokes]

I can’t believe what I read on here, JH is 3 games into his 1st grade career, his 3 from 3 and played his part in all 3 victories, that’s impressive enough at this stage, his a workaholic who looks to have durability and extreme fitness in his corner, can play 7,9,14 and would probably be a great 13 in time to come.

His gone now, but don’t worry we have Daly, Wakeham, Arthur’s - Jazz, Cum Tong, Frog, simpkins not to mention the quality we have at 14, what were we thinking.

Comparing him to Chez is ridiculous, losing him or allowing to sign elsewhere was also ridiculous, if JH wanted to play grade, then surely we should of made the necessary shifts to accommodate him, play him at 14 for a season or 2, he had so many positives and when you think he went over to the bunnies for 150k (if that’s true) how stupid are we.

Now we have potential contract issues with Daly, I don’t think resigning Daly is going to win us a premiership, nor be that important to our long term future, his time is nearing, as things stand he now gets to squeeze us again or worse sign elsewhere, if that occurs, transitioning through JH would of been the perfect way to navigate the upcoming situation which ever way it might turn out and what’s more we may have found ourselves a quality first grader, well no doubt we would have, one with youth and a motor, because it’s not like we need either of those right?

Too many people saying his not that much of a loss, a players a player, they come and they go, well his gone and good luck to him, just a bit tragic, Wayne’s gain will be our pain, I feel like we’ve been through this before. The kid had plenty to offer and was turn key ready, a genuine first grader, a footballer, a 7, 9,14 with the potential to fill other roles, it’s not like they come along everyday, anyways not to worry, its not like our cap is out of balance and we’re stacked with ready to go 7,9,14’s, it was worse than dumb to let him go and will alway remain dumb, yes I was a fan.

Gotta say that I agree in part… I am not sure how letting JH go aligns with bickering with Chez over an extra year…

Feels like Manly are betting each-way… none of the other options are realistic for 2026 so just get the DCE contract done… thing is, it SHOULD already be done given that JH was let go…

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

so just get the DCE contract done… thing is, it SHOULD already be done given that JH was let go…

A contract needs both parties to agree. Besides which no-one even knows if DCE will play on, he's now suggested he'd like to ... but last game he was assisted off the field in agony! a little thing like agony can certainly quickly become a factor in one's thinking. (speaking of which,what bet the Raiders give him what for if they can lay their hands on him!)

 

[manly al]

Always intrigues me with these tutoring or mentoring type roles and especially when more then one club engages the same person .
Actually thought that Joey Johns was working with D C E and Foz at Manly as far back as 10 years ago or so .
Wonder if Ennis has continued on with Manly this season .
Speculation can always or regularly get a bit out of hand with player contract arrangements and then inadvertently create some excessive noise or out of proportion
Recall the considerable drama and speculation when Joey was being courted by Australian R U and sure that he may not have appreciated some unfounded claims or hyperbole that he or his situation was subjected to .
Also thought that The Shu had certain incentive or performance conditions to his prior Manly contract and probably accurate as the exit deal was for Manly to chip in 200 K for a couple of more seasons which would indicate that his base contract was way below that purported 800 K per season .
And any suggestion that Manly would only offer D C E only 600 K after season 25 , realistically just way off the mark