Jamal Fogarty

I can pass a ball better than Jamal. Great
kicking game but that’s all he offers. Do we really want it for 650k-700k or are we better giving Brooks the run of the team and explore a cheaper foil? At least we’d be able to build a better pack.

It’s a horrible thought to think we’d have Fogerty running around for almost the same coin we offered DCE to stay. It’s a massive downgrade and without the option to improve other areas of the squad - sounds like a lose-lose situation to me.
 
I can pass a ball better than Jamal. Great
kicking game but that’s all he offers. Do we really want it for 650k-700k or are we better giving Brooks the run of the team and explore a cheaper foil? At least we’d be able to build a better pack.

It’s a horrible thought to think we’d have Fogerty running around for almost the same coin we offered DCE to stay. It’s a massive downgrade and without the option to improve other areas of the squad - sounds like a lose-lose situation to me.
Yeah but Dce didn't stay. Don't see you point LC. Jamal is capable and we'll get him for 500 I reckon.
 
Maybe Fogarty is just smoke and mirrors from the club, instead they're after someone else, Galvin maybe. Just my opinion.🤷
 
I can pass a ball better than Jamal. Great
kicking game but that’s all he offers. Do we really want it for 650k-700k or are we better giving Brooks the run of the team and explore a cheaper foil? At least we’d be able to build a better pack.

It’s a horrible thought to think we’d have Fogerty running around for almost the same coin we offered DCE to stay. It’s a massive downgrade and without the option to improve other areas of the squad - sounds like a lose-lose situation to me.

We all know Fogarty has an top notch kicking game.

What he doesn't have, is 1st tackle chip kicks and headless chook 5th tackle plays under pressure.

We need game time stability. We need game time steady.
We need structure.

Imo Fogarty delivers structure.

The alternative approach hasn't delivered comps since the lifetime contract.
 
I can pass a ball better than Jamal. Great
kicking game but that’s all he offers. Do we really want it for 650k-700k or are we better giving Brooks the run of the team and explore a cheaper foil? At least we’d be able to build a better pack.

It’s a horrible thought to think we’d have Fogerty running around for almost the same coin we offered DCE to stay. It’s a massive downgrade and without the option to improve other areas of the squad - sounds like a lose-lose situation to me.
Yeah, but what we offered DCE wasn't enough to keep him
 
Yeah but Dce didn't stay. Don't see you point LC. Jamal is capable and we'll get him for 500 I reckon.
I’ll explain it for you then. The point is Fogerty is ordinary, but his price is almost what we were planning to pay DCE. Which means next season, we have a downgrade on DCE but are still hamstrung by the salary cap, thus preventing us from going to market to improve other areas of our squad.

It’s only an opinion, but unless we are going to get a salary cap advantage from DCE’s departure, it’s lose-lose for Manly.

The only way to get an upside, is to lose DCE and have money to spend in other areas. That ain’t happening with Fogerty on the books, which is why I hope it doesn’t happen.
 
He’ll do a job

But I’d rather , Lehi fullback , Tom 5/8 , Brooks 7 and we work on getting those kids up to speed asap.

And instead , buy a decent Prop / Hooker
My problem with this scenario is (and how I hate to have to type it) is Turbo's injury history. We have a FB replacement in young Hoppa, but the halves are difficult to replace for weeks at a time.
 
Yeah, but what we offered DCE wasn't enough to keep him
I think people are missing my point. We can’t sign Fogerty and gain a salary cap advantage from DCE’s departure because he’ll essentially take a similar figure to what we were giving Daly.

Which leaves us with the same salary cap position but a poorer half back. That doesn’t appeal to me.

The only way to take advantage of DCE’s departure is to blood a rookie or use Arthur. Then there’ll be money for forwards and/or a better 9.
 
We all know Fogarty has an top notch kicking game.

What he doesn't have, is 1st tackle chip kicks and headless chook 5th tackle plays under pressure.

We need game time stability. We need game time steady.
We need structure.

Imo Fogarty delivers structure.

The alternative approach hasn't delivered comps since the lifetime contract.
Respect your opinion and if he comes, I’ll be happy if you’re right about it.
 
I think people are missing my point. We can’t sign Fogerty and gain a salary cap advantage from DCE’s departure because he’ll essentially take a similar figure to what we were giving Daly.

Which leaves us with the same salary cap position but a poorer half back. That doesn’t appeal to me.

The only way to take advantage of DCEms departure is to blood a rookie or use Arthur. Then there’ll be money for forwards and/or a better 9.
True, but you cant compare Fogerty to DCE...
On different pay grades
 
Seibs should be calling his old England RU five-eighth Owen Farrell. Point to SBW example and it's time to challenge yourself in league. He is from Wigan. Son of Andy Farrell. And he is talent.

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I can pass a ball better than Jamal. Great
kicking game but that’s all he offers. Do we really want it for 650k-700k or are we better giving Brooks the run of the team and explore a cheaper foil? At least we’d be able to build a better pack.

It’s a horrible thought to think we’d have Fogerty running around for almost the same coin we offered DCE to stay. It’s a massive downgrade and without the option to improve other areas of the squad - sounds like a lose-lose situation to me.
Are you off contract Leonard?
 

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