Jake T.

Jake has earnt the right to decide when he retires. I trust that his intelligence and team first mentality- which he has demonstrated throughout his career - would ensure he doesn’t play on to the detriment of either the team or himself.
The line in the article above about him putting it on hold to see if he can handle it demonstrates as much.

He is more club first than anyone.
 
Jake has earnt the right to decide when he retires. I trust that his intelligence and team first mentality- which he has demonstrated throughout his career - would ensure he doesn’t play on to the detriment of either the team or himself.
Disagree about not playing on to his detriment.
He 100% would.
You can see it when they try to take him from the field each time.
 
Disagree about not playing on to his detriment.
He 100% would.
You can see it when they try to take him from the field each time.
Bit different id argue, when he’s in the heat of battle and just been knocked half unconscious. In the cold light of day, with a clear head and caring voices around him, I think he’s intelligent enough to make the right decision.
 
Bit different id argue, when he’s in the heat of battle and just been knocked half unconscious. In the cold light of day, with a clear head and caring voices around him, I think he’s intelligent enough to make the right decision.
Fair enough.
I think he'd trade his body / injuries for Manly success.
 
Jake is the nicest guy in rugby league (possibly the world) but clearly and for some time the game is too fast for him now. He as much admitted this earlier in the year when he said he likes playing in the wet because it "slows it down". Last night before being knocked out badly for the third time this year (and if memory serves he finished last year being knocked out) he gave away a habitual six again and ran for exactly 0 metres. Someone posted earlier in the year he hasn't broken a tackle this season. I doubt that has changed. He would barely make a post contact metre and is not managing offloads. His tackling has picked up of late but his lack of mobility has been exposed at times. He is way overpaid. Passion and positivity just isn't enough in professional sport.
 
Jake is the nicest guy in rugby league (possibly the world) but clearly and for some time the game is too fast for him now. He as much admitted this earlier in the year when he said he likes playing in the wet because it "slows it down". Last night before being knocked out badly for the third time this year (and if memory serves he finished last year being knocked out) he gave away a habitual six again and ran for exactly 0 metres. Someone posted earlier in the year he hasn't broken a tackle this season. I doubt that has changed. He would barely make a post contact metre and is not managing offloads. His tackling has picked up of late but his lack of mobility has been exposed at times. He is way overpaid. Passion and positivity just isn't enough in professional sport.

Just cashing in, easy money. All the heat's on DCE so Jake's under the radar counting the $100 notes
 
I disagree on the first point and agree on the second but think that swings both ways.

People are just as emotional on a team form dip and are reactionary IMO.

I'll leave Jake aside because now I'm worrid about the guys health and think it may be time to retire.

At the very least I'd sit him the rest of the year and if he plays next year reasses till mid year.

On Tom, signing him, as is, on marquee money would likely hold us back but if its or circa 750k then its market value with upside.
Tom has big upside at 750 for sure .He still has superstar potential .
Jake is a legend but he is not a first grader anymore. His health and inability to cope with the new game means an extension is crazy.
 
Tom has big upside at 750 for sure .He still has superstar potential .
Jake is a legend but he is not a first grader anymore. His health and inability to cope with the new game means an extension is crazy.
I still think Jake has a role to play... IF...... it's a 40–50-minute prop and is paid accordingly

But yeh definitely not a 13 and definitely not a 80 minute player.
 

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