Is our depth better or worse than in 2018?

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  1. manly al

    By:manly alJan 11, 2019
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    Just so many young and untried up and comers in the main playing group to take into account and to accurately gauge how this mat play out in the depth stakes . Plenty of reasons to still have a positive outlook that many of these younger contenders will be able to offer enough to provide and add to the necessary depth factor but only time will eventually tell of course . Certainly do have a good array of mentors and coaching skill now to help bring the best out of the squad collectively so that should be another cause for some reasonable optimism [ and even allowing for the injury component ] for not only sufficient depth but a better performing team in general .
     
  2. Woodsie

    By:WoodsieJan 11, 2019
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    Mate, you are right, we could use a good centre .. but I am not as down as you ...

    1. TUrbo .... as good and better than most in the comp ..
    2. Jorge .... if he is what we got, then I don't mind ... game winner on his day ...
    3. Walker .... rep level and a competitor... has x factor .... I'm happy
    4. ?????
    5 Suli .... not a centre but I am happy to have him on the wing ..... will be a powerhouse ....
    6. Elgey .... has the talent and class .... this is his year ...
    7. DCE ,,,, world class ......

    That lot may not be your superstars, but they are capable of doing the job behind a dominant pack ..... and I am confident that one of Garrick, Elliott, Funa, Parker, K???, and later Hopoate will step up and do a professional job ....
     
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    • Disco

      By:DiscoJan 11, 2019
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      Ryan I love your passion but gee you trend towards the extreme negative in any situation.

      Our back line is "by far" the worst in the league??? By far? Are you sticking with this comment?

      A back line with Turbo, Walker (currently) and DCE is.....by far.....worse than the below????

      1 Nick Meaney
      2 Christian Crichton
      3 Kerrod Holland
      4 Will Hopoate
      5 Reimis Smith
      6 Lachlan Lewis
      7 Kieran Foran
       
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      • Woodsie

        By:WoodsieJan 11, 2019
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        Given the current climate you were probably wise to not mention it took Des 5 years to put that team together ........
         
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        • Ryan

          By:RyanJan 11, 2019
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          Still were able to finish above the Cowboys, Titans, Eels and us last season, even with Foran being out most of the season. But jesus, I don't even know 4 of those players.
           
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          By:RyanJan 11, 2019
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          @Briza , I always respected your opinion mate, and value add. Not sure what's happened of late though?
           
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          Also whilst I am at it, you honestly believe our current back line is worse than the 2003 model

          1. Brendon Reeves
          2. Scott Donald
          3. Albert Torrens
          4. Ben MacDougall
          5. John Hopoate
          6. Ben Walker
          7. Jason Ferris

          And do you genuinely miss the Northern Eagles back lines?

          1. Brendon Reeves
          2. Robert Miles
          3. Ben MacDougall
          4. Andrew King
          5. Lenny Beckett
          6. Ben Walker
          7. Brett Kimmorley
           
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          • Ryan

            By:RyanJan 11, 2019
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            Fair calls, but I'm worried about Walker being out mate. Also, Taufua was dropped by Barrett to NSW Cup at the end of the season, which worries me. Therefore, I have:

            01. Tom Trbojevic - agree - love him, could be anything
            02. Jorge Taufua - slow, didn't score, was dropped - by Barrett
            03. Unknown
            04. Unknown
            05. Moses Suli - wellllll....hehehehe, you know where I stand there (worst player ever for mine)
            06. Kane Elgey - dropped to reserve grade - on a 14th placed Titans team
            07. DCE - who seems to excel with help, but really struggles to own a team on his own
             
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            • Ryan

              By:RyanJan 11, 2019
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              LOL, okay, some of those aren't great. Maybe they've drifted from my memory Banks @;) can I blame my head knock. BUT, we aren't far from that
               
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              • BOZO

                By:BOZOJan 11, 2019
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                I love it when we agree on some things Woodsie ;)
                 
              • Batty

                By:BattyJan 11, 2019
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                2 very different statements you made Ryan.

                1) You said we have the worst backline in the league.
                2) You're now asking us to compare our backline to the premiers.

                Having the worst backline in the league is very different to comparing ours to the reigning premiers backline...

                Anyway mate, it's just a ha ha emoji. Relax.

                We all have different ideas of what the worst backline in the league would look like.... I don't think it's Manlys at all.

                I could put an argument for the worst backline to go to any of the who finished outside the 8.

                Our backline has 2 current Australian backline players. Not many teams can boast that. There are plenty of younger guys with upside and some tried and tested first grade players.

                Anyway mate, each to their own.
                 
              • Mark from Brisbane

                By:Mark from BrisbaneJan 11, 2019
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                To be honest ( and yes I’m back from the wilds of Tasmania ) we haven’t had much quality depth for a few years and I’d expect t this year to be the same.

                It will depend a bit on position 29 & 30 but I’m not expecting much there.

                Good run with injuries ???

                Jeez we are due aren’t we!!
                 
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                Ok gunna join the 1-7 thing....

                1 - Turbo/ Hoppa
                2 & 5 - Elliott / Hoppa/ Jorge/ Garrick / Anderson/ Funa / Suli / Parker
                3 & 4 - Walker / Hoppa / Suli / Garrick / Funa
                6 - elgey / Hodgo / Cust / Metcalfe
                7 - DCE

                Most exciting Longshot -

                1 - Hoppa
                2 - Anderson
                3 - Walker
                4 - Garrick
                5 - Suli
                6 - Elgey
                7 - DCE
                 
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                • 40 years an eagle

                  By:40 years an eagleJan 11, 2019
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                  Turbo for Garrick and I would be one happy camper.
                   
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                  Slipped up - when I put it together that's why I threw Hoppa to FB....at work so kinda messed up big time....:wasntme:....horrible error - thx for the pickup 40 @;)

                  1 - Hoppa
                  2 - Anderson
                  3 - Walker
                  4 - Turbo
                  5 - Suli
                  6 - Elgey
                  7 - DCE
                   
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                  • Ryan

                    By:RyanJan 11, 2019
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                    Honestly , if Walker is still there, my stance on it changes.

                    01. Tom Trbojevic
                    02. Jorge Taufua
                    03.
                    04. Dylan Walker
                    05.
                    06. Kane Elgey
                    07. DCE

                    Is an okay set of bones to work around. I'd honestly put pace in those other two spots. Hopefully height, pace, and extremely fit players who can score long range tries when in the clear.

                    Not run down due to speed and endurance (which is what worries me about Taufua). I can't remember seeing him scoring a streaking try.

                    People will say that's not the type of winger he was, but Nightingale wasn't quick, but he could manage playing like a winger (a bit of Robbo in him). He'll, Robbo wasn't quick, but still managed to crack the line and score long range tries.

                    Not sure Taufua could run The length of the field.

                    So speed for me is paramount. Add in a Suli, we'll face the same problem as last season, where his and Parker's lack of mobility and pace were targetted out wide at will. And it cost us game, after game.
                     
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                    Fair enough mate.

                    I'd throw in a revamped Donny Singe inspired Suli onto the wing. That's where he broke into the NRL. He just needs to be fitter and I think he'll show dramatic improvement.

                    Then let Garrick or Elliot fight it out for the open centre role. Probably Elliot. He's a seasoned veteran who can defend, has pace and knows what the NRL is all about.

                    If Walker goes, we'll have $600k to spend on someone else so not to concerned long term.
                     
                  • The better Robbo

                    By:The better RobboJan 12, 2019
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                    Its pointless naming a backline when our squad hasnt been finalised. We have 2 positions to fill and im fairly certain that one of them will be an outside back.
                    We have chez turbo walker if we add another strike outside back we will be fine.
                    Suli looks fit and people are forgetting he was a 500k superstar signing at dogs only last yr. Fit and firing he could still be a star.
                    Taufua was coming off an acl last yr and missed a large portion of the pre season, again he is looking fit and could get back to his best running 200m a game and being our best metre eater. Add to that garrick elliott funa and hoppa our backs look strong IF we can jag another quality outside back
                     
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                    • Ron E. Gibbs

                      By:Ron E. GibbsJan 12, 2019
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                      All good points, better Robbo. I'd be surprised if we don't add another decent back to the roster. My main concern is injuries. There are some players - through no fault of their own - who are injured so frequently you can almost set your watch by them. Big Jorge is one of them, as is Sirro. The NRL is a tough competition, and once injuries start to hit a career, they tend to keep on coming. We're going to need a good slice of luck to get us through.
                       
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                      • manly al

                        By:manly alJan 12, 2019
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                        Notice that Elliot was apparently doing some pre season training stints at full back , could be a pointer when Turbo may not be available there for whatever reason . Think that Anderson "s best shot for i st grade will be as a winger , doesn "t seem to be able to find the room to move at full back at a better level . Guy still seems to have some exceptional acceleration though . Just do not think that there would be any notable outside backs on the market now . maybe Des is just leaving the remaining two top 30 spots open and will make an assessment after a bit more pre season training and seeing how the present charges are going . Then to address the positions that may need bolstering .
                         
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