Is Mestrov really our Messiah?

It's pretty obvious from 100% Footy tonight that Mestrov has been feeding bullschiit about DCE - a smear campaign

Mestrov never offered DCE a deal last year before Nov 1st. Or after.
Never discussed one year or two
Or a formal offer of $$

No wonder DCE told them in December he was going to leave. Exactly what Mestrov wanted.

Now Mestrov is feeding the media the opposite bs about DCE.
So you believe what Weidler is saying? How the fu<k would he know the intricacies of any discussions between the club & DCE. Does he have an insider at the club giving him all this information or has he been talking directly to DCE? Sounds like all he’s reporting is what DCE has been feeding him. If Mestrov got what he wanted why would he continue allegedly feeding the media BS? I don’t understand this anymore lol.
 
So you believe what Weidler is saying? How the fu<k would he know the intricacies of any discussions between the club & DCE. Does he have an insider at the club giving him all this information or has he been talking directly to DCE? Sounds like all he’s reporting is what DCE has been feeding him. If Mestrov got what he wanted why would he continue allegedly feeding the media BS? I don’t understand this anymore lol.

Isn't he under pressure for not resigning our longest serving player and captain? Most of us, the fans are pissed off about it.

He is feeding his narrative of DCE being greedy and requesting a 2 year deal to justify not signing him - which at best is debatable and worst an outright lie.

He may struggling to hold his job for screwing this up.
 
I don't think Weirdler does either...he's just fanning the flames because it's selling.
The way Weidler has come out swinging tonight on behalf of DCE he better hope he’s right coz if not he’s just hung his arse out for Manly to ream. He has basically accused the club of being liars & somewhat defamed them with his insinuations. Would be great to see the club rip into him!
 
It's pretty obvious from 100% Footy tonight that Mestrov has been feeding bullschiit about DCE - a smear campaign

Mestrov never offered DCE a deal last year before Nov 1st. Or after.
Never discussed one year or two
Or a formal offer of $$

No wonder DCE told them in December he was going to leave. Exactly what Mestrov wanted.

Now Mestrov is feeding the media the opposite bs about DCE.
Not suggesting I know the facts and you don't but interested in your angle...

Personally, I don't believe Mestrov makes recruitment decisions. He is not in a position to make footballing decisions and decide whether he wants to keep DCE or not; he is a businessman. The coach makes recruitment decisions in consultation with the recruitment team.

Further, it would be a very curious position for the club to decide DCE is surplus to requirements when he's still playing great footy and our young halves are not yet ready for FG. Believing he is surplus to requirements and/or budgeting to be without him, only to then offer a two year 1.5m deal on live television, is a pretty big gamble if he decides to take up on the deal; where would that leave us?

It doesn't add up that Manly simply dropped the ball and/or didn't want Daly.

It seems more plausible that he sought a release, it was rejected, and he was left upset with club. He informed them 25' would be the last year, and they kept it in-house until DCE went 100% Sport.
 
Isn't he under pressure for not resigning our longest serving player and captain? Most of us, the fans are pissed off about it.

He is feeding his narrative of DCE being greedy and requesting a 2 year deal to justify not signing him - which at best is debatable and worst an outright lie.

He may struggling to hold his job for screwing this up.
Unless he was under instructions from the Penn’s.Surely a big decision like this,doesn’t bypass their desk
 
Isn't he under pressure for not resigning our longest serving player and captain? Most of us, the fans are pissed off about it.

He is feeding his narrative of DCE being greedy and requesting a 2 year deal to justify not signing him - which at best is debatable and worst an outright lie.

He may struggling to hold his job for screwing this up.
So you believe Weidler? Highly doubt that the club would not make DCE an offer if that’s what he wanted. Maybe DCE was unhappy with the offer & believes he deserves more? Maybe the club are more responsible with the salary cap & would not offer more? Now DCE is pi$$ed off? The truth will come out in the end!
 
Most of us, the fans are pissed off about it.
Most of us just want them all to shut up and get on with the season.

As for Daly... why is Daly even worried about a 'smear campaign' that's been running all week... when he ran onto Brookie and pretty much the whole Manly crowd cheered? Doesn't seem like too many were influenced by the so-called smear?

I don't think Weirdler does either...he's just fanning the flames because it's selling.
Bingo. Haven't seen this latest episode, think I'll give it a miss 🙂
 
So you believe what Weidler is saying? How the fu<k would he know the intricacies of any discussions between the club & DCE. Does he have an insider at the club giving him all this information or has he been talking directly to DCE? Sounds like all he’s reporting is what DCE has been feeding him. If Mestrov got what he wanted why would he continue allegedly feeding the media BS? I don’t understand this anymore lol.

Not suggesting I know the facts and you don't but interested in your angle...

Personally, I don't believe Mestrov makes recruitment decisions. He is not in a position to make footballing decisions and decide whether he wants to keep DCE or not; he is a businessman. The coach makes recruitment decisions in consultation with the recruitment team.

Further, it would be a very curious position for the club to decide DCE is surplus to requirements when he's still playing great footy and our young halves are not yet ready for FG. Believing he is surplus to requirements and/or budgeting to be without him, only to then offer a two year 1.5m deal on live television, is a pretty big gamble if he decides to take up on the deal; where would that leave us?

It doesn't add up that Manly simply dropped the ball and/or didn't want Daly.

It seems more plausible that he sought a release, it was rejected, and he was left upset with club. He informed them 25' would be the last year, and they kept it in-house until DCE went 100% Sport.

So you believe Weidler? Highly doubt that the club would not make DCE an offer if that’s what he wanted. Maybe DCE was unhappy with the offer & believes he deserves more? Maybe the club are more responsible with the salary cap & would not offer more? Now DCE is pi$$ed off? The truth will come out in the end!

Unless he was under instructions from the Penn’s.Surely a big decision like this,doesn’t bypass their desk

I am just playing devils advocate here as many on this forum now seem to be siding with the club and the narrative of DCE being a money grabbing mercenary.

It seems to be working as blaming the club for screwing up the resigning a club legend is what we all should be concerned about.

None of us know the truth.
 
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This is all getting a bit ridiculous, stooping to gutter tactics and allowing the media stooges to pick at the carcass of what should’ve been a great legacy at a club.

No one is going to come out looking good and when the guns are laid down it won’t change anything. The club will look at incompetent, cherry will hide behind his manager and have his reputation questioned, the fans will suffer, our season will suffer but the nrl and club will roll on. There is nothing to gain, just egos to satiate at this point. What a ****ing shame
 
The way Weidler has come out swinging tonight on behalf of DCE he better hope he’s right coz if not he’s just hung his arse out for Manly to ream. He has basically accused the club of being liars & somewhat defamed them with his insinuations. Would be great to see the club rip into him!
I look forward to the club producing the evidence Weidler asked for… that will settle the matter permanently… all it takes is an email from the club to Chez with a contract offer…

Chez seems confident they can’t back up their claims…
 
I look forward to the club producing the evidence Weidler asked for… that will settle the matter permanently… all it takes is an email from the club to Chez with a contract offer…

Chez seems confident they can’t back up their claims…

Yes very easy to prove DCE is a lying bag of schiit

Or is Mestrov the lying bag of schiit?
 
I look forward to the club producing the evidence Weidler asked for… that will settle the matter permanently… all it takes is an email from the club to Chez with a contract offer…

Chez seems confident they can’t back up their claims…
I don’t think that would gain the club any credibility, they would lose credibility and trust from sharing information like that, imagine trying to attract people to the club when you leak controlled personal information.
 
I look forward to the club producing the evidence Weidler asked for… that will settle the matter permanently… all it takes is an email from the club to Chez with a contract offer…

Chez seems confident they can’t back up their claims…

Here in lies a fairly interesting issue for DCE and yes, it is a large issue for HIM.

Is he one hundred percent confident that his management team OR agents of said team DID NOT receive any correspondence regarding the discussions pertaining to his request for an early release OR any narrative forming the basis of discussions about HIS position moving forward with the Club?

Secondly, is he willing to come forward to provide evidence himself that the request, as we have been led to believe, was so he could return to QLD however, at the same time, a certain club had just announced a deal for one year for a player that would, coincidentally, expire at the same time as when he would "finish up" at Manly?

Now, I'm a fairly simple person however, if during this period of time, representations were made to his management team of the likelihood that IF he were to be given a contract, it would be "X" dollars and he wasn't happy with those "preliminary discussions", he has every right to tell the Club to "stick it" and quite possibly did so by telling them that he was going to retire or "go overseas".

Things with DCE may have been going south for a long while, and over the last week, his camp have been doing their very best to set the agenda on where they would like this story to travel.

In fact, towards the end of last week and into the weekend, it was becoming a 50/50 story with the Club presenting their "case" among the way.

The narrative was beginning to come out that BOTH parties were somewhat "loose" with the entire saga and then on Sunday night, he couldn't help himself and he needed to produce the halo to ensure that he is front and centre again, and it's the Club that is the one, actually no, "someone", is conducting a smear campaign against him.

He is an exceptionally smart person, in so far as he won't publically name the person or persons knowing full well he can use the conduit (like all figures in the game do) of the to media with its large legal teams to do his bidding for him, should the need arise (in then making any statements or claims about people).

This now leads me to a very interesting news article written by Weidler; do we all remember when, for the first time in recorded history, the NRL were going to value DCE at something ridiculous like $450,000 (factoring in the reduction for tenure at one Club)?

If the Club took this amount and then decided to offer him what they considered to be a financially responsible amount as part of a negotiation (oh wait, they never happened), is that a slap in the face to DCE?

Could it be, that, if this were to be the case and he was to sign for another Club for more than two-times that valuation, this could this be construed as DCE being money-hungry?

Or would that be a smear campaign in asking such a valid question?

Let's be very honest here it is becoming quite apparent that the DCE camp and the media know full well that information pertaining to this whole matter can not be released into the public domain as all discussions held, verbal (contemporaneous notes and record of discussions between parties serve a very important purpose in matters like this) or written correspondence would be done under a certain degree of confidence between the parties.

One last thing, do you believe it would serve the Club, the team and us, as fans, any benefit for the Club to release any correspondence possibly protected under confidence?

Wouldn't that be the ultimate recipe for disaster and derail our season?

Why would anyone proceed on the basis that requesting such information could have such a detrimental effect on the playing group.

Or could there be, as has been throughout this entire saga, an ulterior motive?

It's not unlike any of the parties to say one thing in public, yet perform completely different in private, is it 🤔.
 
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Maybe he is trying to get Mestrov punted. Penn has a history of sacking CEO's that think they have too much power

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Attn: Devil’s Advocate:

The lowball offer a week ago, which seems to have emanated from Scott (and appears to be a face-saving measure), would suggest he is on Mestrov’s side, not DCE’s.

If Scott wasn’t in Mestrov’s camp, the offer would have been much closer to what DCE still thinks he is worth. Plus they would have made the offer months ago, if they really wanted to keep Danny Weidler’s latest temporary friend.

So I think we can assume the CEO is safe for now.
 
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Or could there be, as has been throughout this entire saga, an ulterior motive?
This has crossed my mind when thinking of the announcement on channel nine, Daly mentioned some people at the club may not be aware of a contract not being offered, I assume this is Penn he was referring to.

I don’t know what term is used in professional sport where a player takes a grievance to a person more senior, after the Sunday post game press conference it comes across like insubordination to me.

If the shenanigans continue an early release looks likely.
 
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