I know someone who has lost it, and it ain't Des.
is Des losing it?
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DSM5 link said:
The frequency of you saying that is starting to concern me
Sounds good to me, none of this PC bull**** where everybody has to be part of a process
If Des says he wants player A and doesn't want player B, he should get that and shouldn't be told "No, the group has voted 4-3 against you" and he doesn't get to coach what he wants
Let's be completely honest here, when Des goes for a crap in the afternoon, he loses more league knowledge than most of the members of this forum will ever have
If Des says he wants player A and doesn't want player B, he should get that and shouldn't be told "No, the group has voted 4-3 against you" and he doesn't get to coach what he wants
Let's be completely honest here, when Des goes for a crap in the afternoon, he loses more league knowledge than most of the members of this forum will ever have
TokyoEagle
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Maybe the coach getting what he wants is not a bad thing. Obviously he does not have complete control otherwise we would not have had the boardroom trouble we did last year, or are you saying that Des instigated that?
We are not travelling as badly as i think you are making out this year, sure we have had a few games where we have lost after leading by winnable margins, you get that with inexperienced halves, indiscipline and a bad run of penalties. Is it time to cut our wrists and let Des go, no way.
By the way, how reliable is your source?
We are not travelling as badly as i think you are making out this year, sure we have had a few games where we have lost after leading by winnable margins, you get that with inexperienced halves, indiscipline and a bad run of penalties. Is it time to cut our wrists and let Des go, no way.
By the way, how reliable is your source?
Kiwi Eagle link said:
I am wide awake, have just opened league week and looked at a ladder that entering this weekend had us above most of the other sides in the comp, so I guess only the 4 teams that are above us aren't having a "crap" season
Why should we be winning games "easily" as you say, if we are such a crap side
Tony Williams, a) We don't have any better options, you do remember Brett Stewart and David Williams are gone for the season don't you ? If you think there is a better option, chuck it up here. b) he has been nowhere near as bad as the forum experts like to profess he has been. If you want an example of why he got picked this week, in the space of 5 mins against Souths he scored a try no other winger in our squad could and then saved one with a great play on Sutton at the other end
Bailey is obviously picked to fill a utility role, isn't performing that great, but has plugged a lot of holes this season (albeit with a leak still coming in the sides of that hole)
Up and down efforts, that is what you get with young players in your side. A few weeks back we fielded a backline of Farrar, Robertson, Whare, Williams, Hopoate, Foran and Hodkinson, probably the least experienced since the formative years of the club. Expecting some of these blokes to come in and dominate week in week out is fanciful
A reality check is needed in some quarters, but I don't think Des is the one that needs it tbh. Pre season it was looking like a year we would be 6-10, somehow Des got the side up to looking like a genuine contender, and now when injuries have hit we have a side running where it looked like it should have pre season
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Well put KE, we've got our two best players sitting on the sideline and have got some inexperienced players filling in for them.
As for Des who cares if he wnats to be in control, he (and the owners) have taken us from a terrible team to premiership contenders every year. Just because we don't win a premiership every year doesn't mean Des is a bad coach. Injuries are going to have a huge influence over the teams fortunes and that's mostly out of Des's control. We also have a salary cap which means we can't keep every player we want to and we have to have players like Willo and Bailey who aren't world beaters but do a job for us but don't get huge contracts. Des is doing a great job for us at the moment given the inexperience in the halves and outside backs.
In Des we Trust.
I watched the Titans game and thought we were very flat in the forwards, Following week we improved immensley against a stronger pack.
Panthers were good last night and will be there in late September.
Players come and Players go, but saying that we should get rid of Glenn Stewart, Baz, is ridiculous.
I watched the Titans game and thought we were very flat in the forwards, Following week we improved immensley against a stronger pack.
Panthers were good last night and will be there in late September.
Players come and Players go, but saying that we should get rid of Glenn Stewart, Baz, is ridiculous.
From the things I see and hear about Hasler, he comes across as strong, intelligent and fiercely loyal to his players.
Over the past two years he has been without his number one strike player for pretty much the last two seasons, there have been a number of highly distracting and in one case immensely emotional off field distractions, infighting within the board with the CEO effectively sacked, and a run of injuries equal to or worse than most other clubs.
Yet we finshed the regular season 5th last year, and are still in with a good chance of a top four finish this year (although we do need to pull our fingers out).
He practically rebuilt this club from the remnants of the Northern Eagles debacle.
Hasler is also mentioned by many good judges as a future representative coach.
And some people are questioning his credentials.....
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Over the past two years he has been without his number one strike player for pretty much the last two seasons, there have been a number of highly distracting and in one case immensely emotional off field distractions, infighting within the board with the CEO effectively sacked, and a run of injuries equal to or worse than most other clubs.
Yet we finshed the regular season 5th last year, and are still in with a good chance of a top four finish this year (although we do need to pull our fingers out).
He practically rebuilt this club from the remnants of the Northern Eagles debacle.
Hasler is also mentioned by many good judges as a future representative coach.
And some people are questioning his credentials.....
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Des is trying to offload Bailey but surprise surprise no other club wants him. Don't be surprised if Tony Williams goes back to parra next year either. This will probably be Kite's last year as well. Big changes in the offseason
WAMF
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Thank you for pointing out the obvious but please have another read of some of the posts. No one is questioning his credentials.Merdy33 link said:
We are all grateful for season 2008 in particular. 2007 was another beauty and we should have finished as minor premiers and the overall Premiers. 2009 was also pretty good.
That said, surely the above doesn't exonerate him for decisions like continuing to play Bailey when he isn't in the clubs top 17 (you don't need to be a Des Hasler to see that).
It also doesn't exonerate him for gambling with a rookie forward on the bench and then twice, not playing said rookie forward, effectively creating a 16 v's 17 player scenario. 3 games later, rookie forward consuming a vital bench spot, is given 10 minutes out of 80?
Anyhow my opinion is that the 'club' needs to find a balance so that they don't distance their fans even further from the organisation.
No forum because Des doesn't like the comments is distancing the club from paying members.
Intentionally removing  the opportunity for paying fans on the 'dugout experience' at brookie from visiting the sheds after the match, is distancing the club further from it's own fan base.
Des should make decisions in the best interest of the 'team'
The CEO should be making decisions in the best interest of the 'club'.
Find a balance, otherwise get rid of Lowe and have Hasler as coach and CEO.
Tokyo Eagle - my source is utterly reliable
a senior member of the support staff
Nate - I don't recall saying anywhere to get rid of Glen Stewart
my point here is that if one person ( Des ) has all the pull thats not healthy
just like Rudd had all the pull and got fired
WAMF put it well - spread the roles and responsibility and power or make Des coach and CEO, but I think thats what we have now anyway
a senior member of the support staff
Nate - I don't recall saying anywhere to get rid of Glen Stewart
my point here is that if one person ( Des ) has all the pull thats not healthy
just like Rudd had all the pull and got fired
WAMF put it well - spread the roles and responsibility and power or make Des coach and CEO, but I think thats what we have now anyway
Thank you for pointing out the obvious but please have another read of some of the posts. No one is questioning his credentials.WAMF link said:
We are all grateful for season 2008 in particular. 2007 was another beauty and we should have finished as minor premiers and the overall Premiers. 2009 was also pretty good.
That said, surely the above doesn't exonerate him for decisions like continuing to play Bailey when he isn't in the clubs top 17 (you don't need to be a Des Hasler to see that).
It also doesn't exonerate him for gambling with a rookie forward on the bench and then twice, not playing said rookie forward, effectively creating a 16 v's 17 player scenario. 3 games later, rookie forward consuming a vital bench spot, is given 10 minutes out of 80?
Anyhow my opinion is that the 'club' needs to find a balance so that they don't distance their fans even further from the organisation.
No forum because Des doesn't like the comments is distancing the club from paying members.
Intentionally removing the opportunity for paying fans on the 'dugout experience' at brookie from visiting the sheds after the match, is distancing the club further from it's own fan base.
Des should make decisions in the best interest of the 'team'
The CEO should be making decisions in the best interest of the 'club'.
Find a balance, otherwise get rid of Lowe and have Hasler as coach and CEO.
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I didnt know the dugout experience had been watered down. Was saving up to bid for my son to carry the footy out for nexty year. May have to retink that a bit if that has been taken out. Probably would have known that if id visited the site lately
Good idea. Let's form a committee to look after the team, see if we can't turn this thoroughbred team into a camel.
If Des wants to run the team his way and is willing to accept accountability for his decisions, what is the problem ?
If Des wants to run the team his way and is willing to accept accountability for his decisions, what is the problem ?
In 2008 Des was hammered all year for his blindness in sticking Lyon at 5/8 and perservering with 'logs' like Mark Bryant. Turned out Dictator Des knew more than some thought!WAMF link said:
And Baz - BAz are you the reason Des shut the forum? lol
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